The trick I used to bail my money out of abusive casinos

[WhoYouCantKill]

One important lesson I’d take from this experience is that a bonus isn’t really as juicy as the casino may make it look, not until you’ve actually known how you can be able to withdraw the resulting balance. A casino can actually make a bonus look very attractive and generous, but what’s really worth considering is what would really happen the moment you stop being a profitable customer. And this is mostly the reason why I focus more on withdrawal rules and how they handle their disputes rather than the bonuses offered by the casino.

[Yablee0]

Excellent strategy I am glad it worked out well for you.
I wonder if anyone else who is experiencing this in their own region would experiment with how you tackled the issue.
Some casinos are just very terrible and they put a lot of bottlenecks when players try to withdraw their winnings so they will be frustrated and let it go.
I ma super happy this worked out in your favor.

This is the first time I'm hearing this throughout my years of experience in gamble. But since it is okay by him then it's fine. However, some of these casinos can be so unbelievable, they are always simply at their first look but later turns tiger when is time to pay out winnings. This is why I don't easily change platform just because of some attractive bonuses or whatever, I properly do my findings before I choose a casino to avoid things like this.

[Ruttoshi]

This is weird and I wonder why casinos in your country are like that. They want gamblers to gamble back all their wins by not giving them access to withdrawals and come up with weak excuses. Maybe, they are doing that because it was a free bonus. It means indirectly, that they don't want people to withdraw the bonus but use it in the casino. Why did they say that the bonus is withdrawable in the first place. Though, you got them on this OP.

I haven't experienced such down here with our local casino. Maybe, there aren't like the ones in your country. However, I don't know why some casinos like delaying customers withdrawals and they claim that they are supporting responsible gambling.

[Pandorak]

In my opinion, this is a very interesting experience, there are many lessons we can learn from it to help us be more careful when choosing a casino, especially local ones and the advice you provided is very helpful in case the casino ever delays the payment process due to KYC requirements, etc.

To be honest, i personally have never experienced anything like what you went through. Perhaps it’s because when i use local casinos, i’ve never been particularly interested in trying out their bonus features, so i’ve never had to deal with the various requirements for withdrawing those bonuses.

I’m also glad you were finally able to withdraw all your money from that casino after all the drama.

[DubemIfedigbo001]

TL;DR: on licensed casinos you can bail out your balance and withdraw very fast even if they're BSing you by requesting an account and closure and threatening to contact regulators. I'm not sure if this will work with casinos under the Curacao or Anjuan license though which seems to be the most common here.

I wonder if your local casinos are aware of this method, or maybe they just ignore it, since it's not really that huge. But imagine if hundreds of players are going to do this.
Usually, when gamblers are in that situation, they will try to argue or be compelled to follow all their instruction until they decide to just play and eventually lose their money, and that's where it ends, with this, the casino wins.
This is something new, I'm sure some players will do this if they are allowed to do this.

We learn everyday and that's the benefit of discussion forums, I've had such experience in the past, although for a deposit bonus of which I couldn't withdraw until I gambled away the funds, I think the casino intentionally held back the funds because I reached their 10X requirement. I was younger then and just exploring. Requesting account closure might work in my country(although I'm not sure you'll be given back all your money), but threatening to contact regulators is what I'm not sure of because our regulators care less about the well-being of gamblers, they're only interested in the revenue physical casinos and sportsbooks generate for them. It is safe to say that in my country, gamblers are left to their own fate.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

Some casinos are fund of this act and I feel, they sometimes update their terms and conditions to favour them just in case the player takes a legal action against them, they feel unhappy when players win a big amount from their bonus or the person's own money and sometimes when a lucky player wins a huge amount, they will post in on their social media account for the purpose of advertising and to attract more player, meanwhile they actually dislike heavy wins like that. I have not encounter this myself but I have seen people who pass through that stress and sometimes they end up gambling away the money before abandoning the casino.

[hedgeh0g]

Some casinos are fund of this act and I feel, they sometimes update their terms and conditions to favour them just in case the player takes a legal action against them, they feel unhappy when players win a big amount from their bonus or the person's own money and sometimes when a lucky player wins a huge amount, they will post in on their social media account for the purpose of advertising and to attract more player, meanwhile they actually dislike heavy wins like that. I have not encounter this myself but I have seen people who pass through that stress and sometimes they end up gambling away the money before abandoning the casino.

I have never personally encountered a situation where a casino blocked me from withdrawing funds, but I have frequently heard about other players facing this issue. Naturally, such a situation causes stress and leads players to make mistakes such as losing their entire balance. Once the money is gone, the casino simply argues that there is no dispute since there are no funds left. In any case, it is best to research the details and seek the opinions of respected users and active players before you start playing at any casino. Of course, there are times when there is no one to ask, and we end up registering and playing based solely on our own experience.

[Hispo]

Some casinos are fund of this act and I feel, they sometimes update their terms and conditions to favour them just in case the player takes a legal action against them, they feel unhappy when players win a big amount from their bonus or the person's own money and sometimes when a lucky player wins a huge amount, they will post in on their social media account for the purpose of advertising and to attract more player, meanwhile they actually dislike heavy wins like that. I have not encounter this myself but I have seen people who pass through that stress and sometimes they end up gambling away the money before abandoning the casino.

I think casinos, as any other business, are legally obliged to inform their gamblers when they have decided to chance their terms of service, so gamblers can decide if they agree with the new terms and continue to gamble on their casino, or otherwise stop using their casinos and withdraw all their money and change of casino.

Changing the terms of service with no notice and not to inform their gamblers is quite a bad and shady move, which I would only expect from small and unliquid casinos and bookies, to be honest.

[noorman0]

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I'm not sure if this will work with casinos under the Curacao or Anjuan license though which seems to be the most common here.

That is what creates the difference in terms of opportunities; an offshore license might not influence a casino's decisions as strongly as a local license does. Suppose I come from a country where gambling is unregulated or prohibited; meaning there is automatically no inter-regulatory cooperation to protect gamblers. For the casino, it is better to lose one player than to lose a company that pays annual licensing fees.

[free-bit.co.in]

they feel unhappy when players win a big amount from their bonus or the person's own money and sometimes when a lucky player wins a huge amount, they will post in on their social media account for the purpose of advertising and to attract more player, meanwhile they actually dislike heavy wins like that.

But before jumping to conclusion that casino don't like big winner it's better to be little careful. Casino can also advertise $100k winner's story on social media to attract new players. Again in case of unusually large withdrawal, additional risk control can also be kept. So it does not prove that casino is trying to block legitimate winning with just this.

What happened after win is more important to me than big win. Has casino applied any pre-existing rule? Or after withdrawal request they came up with new condition? Did they give clear reason and reasonable timeline? And the player's own deposited money is mixed with bonus derived fund?

These details make the real picture clear. Otherwise, every major withdrawal dispute will easily turn into casino doesn't like winner. Often actual issue could be KYC or AML, bonus term, withdrawal restriction or poor customer support.

[Pandu Geddon]

Suppose I come from a country where gambling is unregulated or prohibited; meaning there is automatically no inter-regulatory cooperation to protect gamblers. For the casino, it is better to lose one player than to lose a company that pays annual licensing fees.

That is the difficult situation for gamblers in a country that prohibits gambling. If the amount of winnings is worth fighting for, even though KYC verification or other requirements will certainly be carried out, even if the process is quite long. But if the winnings are not big enough, I would also be in a position like that and choose to spend it all on the game.

[tread93]

I did not know about this trick to get your money from casinos which do not seem to be willing to allow a withdrawal to be carried out.
I suppose there much he something serious when comes to account closure and termination of service, so they cannot use their own requirements in order to withhold your money, they are simply forced to comply with your requirement.

Fortunately, I have never been in such situation in which I would need a casino to close my account just in order to have access to my balance.

Thanks for sharing, though.

I didn’t know about this trick either but its is clever. Cc’ing the country’s regulator is definitely a way to hold them accountable and keep them in check. Regardless of any requirement that they made it hard for them to defend that when the they are also being held accountable, on smaller balances like their promotional offerings they probably don’t want to waste the time and effort and just deposit the funds immediately

[Findingnemo]

This again may work on some and if the casino's intention is not to let anyone withdraw the free money they will keep giving excuses, atleast it is highly regulated so you managed to do that.

I just wonder what will happen when we attempt a similar trick with a crypto casino when we are in the middle of KYC verification needed? WIll they allow us to withdraw whatever the balance or only after we complete the KYC they asked for?

[Yeesha]

Excellent strategy I am glad it worked out well for you.
I wonder if anyone else who is experiencing this in their own region would experiment with how you tackled the issue.
Some casinos are just very terrible and they put a lot of bottlenecks when players try to withdraw their winnings so they will be frustrated and let it go.
I ma super happy this worked out in your favor.

This is the first time I'm hearing this throughout my years of experience in gamble. But since it is okay by him then it's fine. However, some of these casinos can be so unbelievable, they are always simply at their first look but later turns tiger when is time to pay out winnings. This is why I don't easily change platform just because of some attractive bonuses or whatever, I properly do my findings before I choose a casino to avoid things like this.

The OP was so lucky, and again he was so smart that's why he was able to tackle that problem. If some people fall in that trap, they might not be able to tackle it. Some of the casinos are not what they appears to be, giving the gamblers a hard time when it is time for them to withdraw their winnings. Bonuses are what some casinos use to attract the attention of the gamblers, especially those who are blinded by greed. Some casinos only engage in what is going to be favourable to them, and players also have their motives. It's not that easy to identify an abusive casino, but when a player is about to withdraw their winnings that's when they will be able to identify or know whether the casino is being real or just faking it.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

TL;DR: on licensed casinos you can bail out your balance and withdraw very fast even if they're BSing you by requesting an account and closure and threatening to contact regulators. I'm not sure if this will work with casinos under the Curacao or Anjuan license though which seems to be the most common here.

Such are only possible on casinos that is been regulated by a specific territory, unlike most of the casino that we have on this forum which operates internationally, and that's why an individual from any country can just filed an complaint against the casino, and the casino will comply immediately, in other to avoid been ordered by the court of competent jurisdiction and it's regulators to pay the individual with compensation. However, another to avoid falling victim to abusive casinos is when you stop chasing for free bonuses, because these are marketing strategies, and any crypto casino that invest heavily in advertisement will be expecting to return of profits.

[Mrbluntzy]

because from the casino's point of view, they are losing a client, losing the bonus they give and also losing more money from any winning you might have gotten from that bonus, if they allow that withdrawal then you stand to lose nothing while they stand to lose money.
Most of them would probably look for a way to cut around so you end up forfeiting your bonus and winnings, this way they only lose one account but they still get to keep the money, better some than all.

With this act, if OP or anyone else that have had same experience on that same casino decides to stop using it, at first the casino might think they have won because they only lost one account but as time goes on, that's how other users will continue leaving and they will start sharing their experience with other people and calling out the bad practice of the casino and before they realize it, they must have lost a lot of customers, even new players will stop signing up because words will also get to them that the casino is only using bonus to trap new players but doesn't allow withdrawal.

If a casino doesn't mean to scam someone, they won't exhibit this kind of act but I guess the casino in this case is not reputable, if really the OP's experience is what other users face, they must have already stopped using the casino and will definitely leave a bad review so that others will be warned.

[Tetu100]

The OP was so lucky, and again he was so smart that's why he was able to tackle that problem. If some people fall in that trap, they might not be able to tackle it. Some of the casinos are not what they appears to be, giving the gamblers a hard time when it is time for them to withdraw their winnings. Bonuses are what some casinos use to attract the attention of the gamblers, especially those who are blinded by greed. Some casinos only engage in what is going to be favourable to them, and players also have their motives. It's not that easy to identify an abusive casino, but when a player is about to withdraw their winnings that's when they will be able to identify or know whether the casino is being real or just faking it.

From the way things are going right now, I will rather advise we (gamblers) should bear it at the back of our mind that KYC is mostly compulsory whether it's pronoun or not. Because it's more obvious that they always fall back to it when a player is at the point of withdrawal even though they didn't mention it earlier. Therefore, if one is fully ready head to complete his KYC when called upon, I don't think the casino will find a ground or see any  better way of dieing people's money. Sometimes we cause our problems.

The reason they keep messing around our winnings and kept us frustrated is because we gave them the room to do that. However, it's better we just disregard most of their sweet talks and face the reality to save the situation.

[Mr_Brilliant$]

What an interesting read. Felt like I was reading a novel. For that your threat, that was very smart of you. Like you said it might not work for low lever licences that casinos this days seems to be acquiring. But if this your story actually happens to everybody that is profitable in betting, then it is something worth worrying over. So it seems like they cherish those that loose their money more. I understand that they make money like that. But why go ahead and deny payment by requesting things that are irrelevant just to withdraw. Anyways, I don't own a casinos, so this is a misery to me.

[stompix]

99% of the casinos advised here would laugh their ass off when reading the email.
And if you have hope for the 1% left, that's because some might not even,

Also:

Even after months of pointless back and forth, such a message would make most gambling sites simply comply to the request and let me withdraw my balance. They suddenly stopped caring about rollover requirements even and were just letting me withdraw my full deposit and winnings. To be fair, I had completed the rollover requirements on the won balance before requesting a withdrawal. But got the occasions I had deposited a small amount, they'd lock my full withdrawable balance claiming I must do a full rollover of the balance again at least 1x as part of an AML rule they invented...

So basically...your trick DOESN'T WORK!
So, again, what was the point of all this story?

[Sobz]

One important lesson I’d take from this experience is that a bonus isn’t really as juicy as the casino may make it look, not until you’ve actually known how you can be able to withdraw the resulting balance. A casino can actually make a bonus look very attractive and generous, but what’s really worth considering is what would really happen the moment you stop being a profitable customer. And this is mostly the reason why I focus more on withdrawal rules and how they handle their disputes rather than the bonuses offered by the casino.

Bonus is nothing so important and this why casinos would always give custom,  this only attracts gamblers to the casino . The worse decision for a gambler as a reason to make a casino a favourite one is to go after bonus.  Bonus is a strategy for promotion of a casino,  it is nothing special but a lot of people falls for it and at the end of it they realize it as unwise decision. There are other things to look out to go for a casino, bonus is nothing but trap and those who dont understand it falls for it.