Online based roulette and physical wheel roulette which more transparent?

[DPHOR]

So, I would want to hear from those who has made used of the both physical wheel and online wheel which is more reliable for winning?

I've never tried a physical wheel before. However, Roulette at popular online casinos should be more trustworthy since they come from trusted providers. Take Pragmatic, for example. They offer Roulette at more casinos, and their games have official RNG certification and are audited by third parties. They also hold a UK license. All of this should be more than enough to trust the games they offer.

But there's nothing wrong with you trusting the physical roulette wheel more. After all, everyone has their own opinion.

Who does not know that most of the game provider do have a license for their games that they do provide, and again it could be verifiable but like I said before, what about those who can't do that particular function to verify the gamed they play, I believe this is what back most of the game providers since they own a license it would allow and enable most of the site to keep using their games.
Physical casinos are also built to favor the house no doubts, but it could be more transparent than the online as I may think.

[Emitdama]

I've mostly played online roulettes so i'll be leaning towards that side plus most casinos usually provide tools to help you verify them. If you still have doubts, you could run an experiment to prove them wrong.

The closest thing i've had with physical roulettes are the live ones from third party providers, and to me, it's more difficult to tell how they conduct their fairness because we players don't know the stuff they'll perform behind the scenes.

But when it comes to winning, i'd pick live or physical over online because of how the rounds work.

If it was a stock roulette game based on blockchain, then yeah we can usually verify them via the provably fair system. For the others, I am not sure if there is a chance we can do that. Others may think that live games are better than the online ones in terms of fairness, just because they see the game live but you are right that we still don't know how they set it up even before the game goes live.

If a physical roulette can be manipulated, then how much more the online ones where we can not see all the angles? This is where non-live provably fair /blockchain based roulette has the chance to win over them. Live games are still more lively or entertaining though, if we miss the physical casino vibe.

[LFC_Bitcoin]

Physical wheel roulette is more transparent because you can actually see the wheel, ball and result happen in front of you. Online roulette depends on software or a random number generator so you have to trust that the game is fair and properly regulated.

Licensed online casinos are usually audited and monitored though so online roulette can still be trustworthy.
I just think a physical wheel feels more transparent to the average player but online roulette can offer similar fairness if it’s from a properly regulated operator.

[Filicius]

Physical wheel roulette is more transparent because you can actually see the wheel, ball and result happen in front of you. Online roulette depends on software or a random number generator so you have to trust that the game is fair and properly regulated.

Licensed online casinos are usually audited and monitored though so online roulette can still be trustworthy.
I just think a physical wheel feels more transparent to the average player but online roulette can offer similar fairness if it’s from a properly regulated operator.

I agree with the latter "for the average player", but how often are physical wheel roulettes audited to know if they have been manipulated in any way? In the big land based casinos I suppose they will go through rigorous tests - which depending on the power and money at stake may not be as rigorous as they should be; but in smaller casinos that may not be subject to such scrutiny, the fact that you see physical wheel roulettes with your own eyes doesn't seem like much of a guarantee, when the effects of the tampering can be very subtle but enough to tip the scales unfairly in favour of the house.

That's why I think that for the resourceful player it seems easier to check the fairness of online based roulettes which have an accessible code to be verified. Accessibility that is not within everyone's reach in the case of physical roulettes.

[Karl_3000]

Physical wheel roulette is more transparent because you can actually see the wheel, ball and result happen in front of you. Online roulette depends on software or a random number generator so you have to trust that the game is fair and properly regulated.

You can see the ball and the roulette table but you can not know what is happening underneath the table. It is possible that the roulettes on physical casinos can be manipulated but which can later be suspicious.

Bhy the manipulation when gambers will still be the ones losing.

Licensed online casinos are usually audited and monitored though so online roulette can still be trustworthy.
I just think a physical wheel feels more transparent to the average player but online roulette can offer similar fairness if it’s from a properly regulated operator.

What is more transparent than knowing the seed which can be seen on online casinos.

There can be licensed gambling sites that can be shady.

[Alphakilo]

Physical wheel roulette is more transparent because you can actually see the wheel, ball and result happen in front of you. Online roulette depends on software or a random number generator so you have to trust that the game is fair and properly regulated.

Licensed online casinos are usually audited and monitored though so online roulette can still be trustworthy.
I just think a physical wheel feels more transparent to the average player but online roulette can offer similar fairness if it’s from a properly regulated operator.

One thing about physics and physical roulette is how they correlate to give the result after a spin and that is where a physical casino where you can see the wheel turn, stands out. However, an online based roulette is simply a product of mathematical coding and there could be lag or some form of interference that alters the result, hence why it's preferable to gamble on a better licensed casino that is properly regulated strictly to avoid manipulation and taking laws into their hands.

I don't really see a difference in transparency because it depends on the gambler actually and their actions and since the casino knows a gambler can fight for their right if there's suspected manipulation, and therefore make the casino lose credibility, they just got to play by the books to appear transparent and fair enough.

[lombok]

One thing about physics and physical roulette is how they correlate to give the result after a spin and that is where a physical casino where you can see the wheel turn, stands out. However, an online based roulette is simply a product of mathematical coding and there could be lag or some form of interference that alters the result, hence why it's preferable to gamble on a better licensed casino that is properly regulated strictly to avoid manipulation and taking laws into their hands.

I don't really see a difference in transparency because it depends on the gambler actually and their actions and since the casino knows a gambler can fight for their right if there's suspected manipulation, and therefore make the casino lose credibility, they just got to play by the books to appear transparent and fair enough.

Certainly, the mechanical motion of a traditional roulette wheel represents the laws of nature. At the same time, the rotation of the online game model depends entirely on programming code and needs to be controlled by an authorized institution.

The necessity to preserve the reputation of the company obliges companies operating legally to act fairly, thus avoiding lawsuits from key participants. Strict audits by the authority will ensure that the computer model works properly and does not have any engineering problems.

[Crypto Library]

Physical wheel roulette is more transparent because you can actually see the wheel, ball and result happen in front of you. Online roulette depends on software or a random number generator so you have to trust that the game is fair and properly regulated.

In all cases, just because you can physically see the wheel and balls doesn't mean they will always be fair. Because if casinos want to rig games, they can use simple physics to change the flow of the game against the players. Here, many things matter, from changing the size of the balls to the mechanical parts of the machine. And that's why the gambling regulatory agencies provide guidelines for these games, starting from the weight of the wheel and ball to ensuring that they are non-magnetic. And the thing you mentioned is only the visible things above.

Licensed online casinos are usually audited and monitored though so online roulette can still be trustworthy.
I just think a physical wheel feels more transparent to the average player but online roulette can offer similar fairness if it’s from a properly regulated operator.

Even here, I will be favour of Licensed online casinos, which basically provide a seed or hash to the players after every roll, through which the player can verify the result of the game. Here, the possibility of rigging becomes much lower, even from the physical casinos.

[Sandra_hakeem]

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The odds of winning are the same - they are negative, so I wouldn't talk about them.
If we talk about entertainment, then of course, physical real roulette is better (and more transparent). By the way, a physical roulette wheel can (and there have been many stories where this has happened) give distorted results, but isn't that the beauty of the physical world? If I wanted mathematical abstractions, I’d have chosen Dice instead.

I'd agree. That means enjoying the entertainment of the physical real roulette comes at the expense of the anomalies that might pile up and deny you a good amount of your original winnings, something that won't happen online. It's safe to say that people chasing fun should know where to go, and  people who need actual winnings, even on a thin margin should choose wisely.

By the way, the path from sports betting to roulette strikes me as very strange. In my opinion, development (as gambler) is the path from slots -> roulette -> betting, and the opposite path is, I would say... simplification  

I also noticed that part on OP's post. I rarely see bettors wanting to try out casino games out of the blue, but this one definitely has his reasons and whatever there are, he is right.

[Perfectbaby]

Physical wheel roulette is more transparent because you can actually see the wheel, ball and result happen in front of you. Online roulette depends on software or a random number generator so you have to trust that the game is fair and properly regulated.

Licensed online casinos are usually audited and monitored though so online roulette can still be trustworthy.
I just think a physical wheel feels more transparent to the average player but online roulette can offer similar fairness if it’s from a properly regulated operator.

Yes that is true because I don't think we should be trusting an online wheel we do not see than physical wheel we are seeing how they are rolling it. Although, I do not know how possible for both to have the same possibility of having the same chances of winning, where we know that the physical wheel is more transparent when it's rolled and you would watch the roulette till it stops without any manipulation from the dealer. You know people have so much believe that online is verifiable whether the game are being rigged or not, without knowing that the physical wheel still remains the best.

[lombok]

Yes that is true because I don't think we should be trusting an online wheel we do not see than physical wheel we are seeing how they are rolling it. Although, I do not know how possible for both to have the same possibility of having the same chances of winning, where we know that the physical wheel is more transparent when it's rolled and you would watch the roulette till it stops without any manipulation from the dealer. You know people have so much believe that online is verifiable whether the game are being rigged or not, without knowing that the physical wheel still remains the best.

Surely, the certainty of the motion of the ball on the wooden board gives a distinct impression of probability. The possibility of corruption of the software code cannot but arise when the results of spins depend only on the claim of verification of the computerized system.

The obviousness of mechanics of a traditional table eliminates the suspicions of the algorithms that can be found in online betting enthusiasts. The existence of a tangible object that moves without any computer involvement proves its status of the benchmark in terms of checking the luck.

[AVE5]

This can be arguable, but I will choose online roulettes that is verifiable using the game seed which is very well enough for transparency. But I do not think it is all online games that can be verified, especially those fiat casinos, but I am not sure. Though what gamblers look for the most are reputable gambling sites.

It has also come to be that it's a waste of time if we're too desperate or curious to know the velocity of the casino's transparencies, it's really not an easy task to get that guaranteed verified.
We just hope the casino's we're using is fair enough with their services and offers so that we don't get misled by whatsoever tool of using the games seed phrase to track and get convinced if the casino is honest.
Like said, there're many facts to be cared about which is an all round legitimacy of the casino including deposits, withdrawal, Kyc,  review and that of confirming its license for legal operations in all, most interest should be pegged on their reputation. Let's not too focus on winning while there're other terrible issues behind we never thought would be disturbing.
Not even the physical dealer can be trusted either to begin with on the games results determinants.

[Powerjumboo]

Sorry to draw your attention for those who who deal on live roulette on the physical wheel roulette, and those who play roulette online which is more transparent?
The reason why I draw this discussion is because, I am having this feeling that physical wheel roulette is more transparent because the online roulette which being coded with some data without one possibly know how transparent it's could be hard for someone to win while gambling. Realistically, I am a fan of sports betting but somehow beginning to find interest in roulette. So, I would want to hear from those who has made used of the both physical wheel and online wheel which is more reliable for winning?

After some comments I would lock this thread to avoid over flooding. Please be strict on your comments to avoid deletion.
Thank you.

Let me say one thing in advance, and that is that no matter how fun roulette and slot games are, I have no addiction or interest in them. I just like sports betting and participate in it. Because my sport was already very popular and I loved it, that is why I have a lot of interest in sports betting. However, I clearly remember that I used to spin the wheel offline with friends and I had a lot of fun spinning the wheel there. Moreover, I have not played roulette games online. However, my comment is that gambling for entertainment is fun everywhere, whether online or offline.

[Darker45]

Physical casinos are also built to favor the house no doubts, but it could be more transparent than the online as I may think.

All casinos, brick-and-mortar and online alike, favor the house.

As far as transparency is concerned, which online roulette are you specifically referring to? Online roulettes could be live online roulettes, those with real people as croupiers, or software-based online roulettes, those that are powered by RNGs.

Between the two, I'd trust the latter more. It may not be as fun as the former, but at least it could be provably fair. You could personally verify the fairness of each result. You can't do the same with a live online roulette which is played in a studio somewhere and probably broadcast with delays.

[Odusko]

On the other hand, online roulette apps are pre-arranged in a specific pattern, so even if you want to, there is no way to understand exactly how to win. However, for entertainment, I prefer playing on a real machine.

The only advantage of land-based casinos is the more entertainment that you can get from them than from online casinos. Aside from that, I do not think there is anything more that can be derived from physical casinos that online casinos can not give. But about winning, there is no way that you can know how you can win in physical casinos. They are all games of luck and gambers are most likely to lose than win in both land based or online casinos.

The reason many people visit physical casino is indeed because of the side attraction and entertainment that come along with being in the physical environment unlike on online casino where you are up and just facing your game, sometimes we see non-gamblers going to physical casinos with attempts to get entertainment and not really play games there.

Land based casino don't have any preference or advantage as against online casinos, their all have the same games results system, where you either win or lose depending on your luck at the moment.

[iv4n]

So, I would want to hear from those who has made used of the both physical wheel and online wheel which is more reliable for winning?

Neither is more reliable for winning, and it's a bit foolish to expect a consistent edge in luck-based games. If we are talking only about transparency & trust, both have pros & cons... As other members pointed out, physical roulette can feel more transparent because we can see the dealer and the ball... but players can't audit the mechanics. Online roulette lets you verify the game... but we have to trust that the platform is not hiding anything in its code. And the reality is that both have "the house edge"... So no matter how transparent roulette looks, or how clean the code is, the math favors the house.

Realistically, I am a fan of sports betting but somehow beginning to find interest in roulette.

Have fun with the option that feels better for you. I enjoy playing in-house and live roulette games. Roulette can be pretty interesting, but you can expect miracles... in the end, it's all about luck. You give it a try, and if you are lucky, the ball will work for you... But sometimes it will work against you. Reliability for winning simply doesn't exist in luck-based games.

Good luck!

[AHOYBRAUSE]

Why is this even a question. With a physical wheel you can stand right new to it and can see it even hear any interference that might have an impact on the outcome of the game. With an only roulette game you only see what the provider want last you to see or even let’s you see. There are many videos about games where the ball moved a lot after it came to a halt first, which doesn’t make too much sense and implies something like magnets or some sort of blowing device being in place. Obviously you never know but when it looks suspicious there must be something to it because at a real wheal in a physical casino I have never seen anything like this happen.

[serjent05]

Sorry to draw your attention for those who who deal on live roulette on the physical wheel roulette, and those who play roulette online which is more transparent?
The reason why I draw this discussion is because, I am having this feeling that physical wheel roulette is more transparent because the online roulette which being coded with some data without one possibly know how transparent it's could be hard for someone to win while gambling. Realistically, I am a fan of sports betting but somehow beginning to find interest in roulette. So, I would want to hear from those who has made used of the both physical wheel and online wheel which is more reliable for winning?

After some comments I would lock this thread to avoid over flooding. Please be strict on your comments to avoid deletion.
Thank you.

It looks like the physical wheel roulette is more transparent than the online-based roulette because the physical one is tangible and we can scrutinize the machine with our own eyes but I think whether one is transparent or not depends on the platform.  If the platform wanted to cheat their players, they can make it look like transparent yet the cheating mechanism is hidden.

So I think if we are doubtful about the machine, we can skip it and try another one.  After all, it is better to avoid something we are in doubt about.

[sompitonov]

Why is this even a question. With a physical wheel you can stand right new to it and can see it even hear any interference that might have an impact on the outcome of the game. With an only roulette game you only see what the provider want last you to see or even let’s you see. There are many videos about games where the ball moved a lot after it came to a halt first, which doesn’t make too much sense and implies something like magnets or some sort of blowing device being in place. Obviously you never know but when it looks suspicious there must be something to it because at a real wheal in a physical casino I have never seen anything like this happen.

Back when I played online roulette out of curiosity years ago, the ball would actually shift position when it landed. I never quite figured out if it was a visual glitch or something else, but as a player, I disliked it so much that I decided never to play again after all, visually speaking, one could theoretically place the ball anywhere on the screen and play against other players. In any case, playing real-life roulette is better than the online version, though I wouldn't rule out the possibility that long-serving dealers can gauge the force of their throw so precisely that they could land the ball on red or black more often if they wanted to.

[Bright0515]

Sorry to draw your attention for those who who deal on live roulette on the physical wheel roulette, and those who play roulette online which is more transparent?

When talking about online roulettes in comparison to this putting the casino into consideration is important because it all depends on the site you use, this game on that particular site is provably then it's going to give you the same random outcome just like any other and there are ways you can actually verify this. Gamblers only get cheated when they use casinos that are not credible. On the other hand physical wheels can also be comprised as well.

Realistically, I am a fan of sports betting but somehow beginning to find interest in roulette. So, I would want to hear from those who has made used of the both physical wheel and online wheel which is more reliable for winning?

If you are beginning to gain interest it means you are still new to the game, it took you a short period of time to come up with this observation. Well, in my opinion both are based on luck and one isn't more reliable for winning than the other, you just have to go with the one you prefer.