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October 20, 2026, 06:31:38 PM
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Approximately 80% of men die but 75% of women survived.

It is very clear that the man sacrificed for the women not to died. If everybody should stay on their own, I do not think 5% of women will survive the bad incident.

Gender priorities don't matter in emergencies, like in the case of an accident. Then the rescuer has the goal to save more and more lives as soon as possible, but in some places we prefer women and children over young men, and that's the role of ethics. To learn this, we have the best example of the Titanic incident. This incident shows how crew members and many other brave people saved lives, and in some portions they gave priority to children and women to provide safety boats. But here a difference can be seen: the elite class portion had better boats as compared to the middle class, but in emergencies the presence of facilities matters more than the quality of facilities. No doubt the survival ratio depends on the location and class of people, but it doesn't depend on gender. I have a question for you: what do you prefer in this modern age if a Titanic-like incident happens?

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October 20, 2026, 06:38:21 PM
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Approximately 80% of men die but 75% of women survived.

It is very clear that the man sacrificed for the women not to died. If everybody should stay on their own, I do not think 5% of women will survive the bad incident.

Gender priorities don't matter in emergencies, like in the case of an accident. Then the rescuer has the goal to save more and more lives as soon as possible, but in some places we prefer women and children over young men, and that's the role of ethics. To learn this, we have the best example of the Titanic incident. This incident shows how crew members and many other brave people saved lives, and in some portions they gave priority to children and women to provide safety boats. But here a difference can be seen: the elite class portion had better boats as compared to the middle class, but in emergencies the presence of facilities matters more than the quality of facilities. No doubt the survival ratio depends on the location and class of people, but it doesn't depend on gender. I have a question for you: what do you prefer in this modern age if a Titanic-like incident happens?
The fact is that women and kids are most vulnerable in the case of harsh conditions like accidents or war situations, so don't think bad when such eventually happens which doesn't happen all the time any way, but the society have already set that standards, and make it clear that man should be head and women be the neck and if you check carefully women are in charge indirectly.

Government role also is given to more men than women, we are hopping that that mentality change very soon where we can see woman first president and other countries repeating it by electing women into election position.

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October 20, 2026, 06:44:20 PM
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It's only a fool that will undermine the role that men plays in the society. I don't even want to name instances that men took the fall just for women and children to survive. Forget the fact that some women are trying to equate themselves with men, it's just a weak mentality. Men and women are not equal right from creation. Men has that natural consciousness to protect, it is their duty of course so shout out to every man who lay down their lives just to protect their families and others from harm and danger. There was a woman that was telling a story of how his Dad died when armed robbers attacked them, he literally fought so that his wife and children could live, that's the extent to which men makes sacrifices. This is why we also have to accord respect to those in the military who are also protecting the country, their lives are in risk and they know that but decided to stay back.

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October 20, 2026, 08:36:08 PM
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The fact is that women and kids are most vulnerable in the case of harsh conditions like accidents or war situations, so don't think bad when such eventually happens which doesn't happen all the time any way, but the society have already set that standards, and make it clear that man should be head and women be the neck and if you check carefully women are in charge indirectly.

Government role also is given to more men than women, we are hopping that that mentality change very soon where we can see woman first president and other countries repeating it by electing women into election position.
I believe things are gradually changing and hopefully we will all get to the point where leadership is no longer viewed as only one gender but it will be be the both gender ,women too have the ability to lead, make decisions and contribute to the society also their opinions to really matter, what matter is competence not whether the person is a man or woman, for real everyone deserves equal opportunity to prove their self.

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October 20, 2026, 09:23:20 PM
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I don't think that just one incident of the Titanic can be used to show that men are trying. Because the Titanic incident was an exceptional case. As far as I know Captain Edward Smith ordered that women and children be taken to the lifeboats first. That's why men might have sacrificed. But if there were no rules, men would have tried to survive first,  I did some research myself and found that there was a research on 18 other shipwrecks. So it was found that in those 18 shipwrecks, the survival rate of men was almost double. So the Titanic is actually an exceptional case. I don't think that everything should be measured by this.

Every disaster has different circumstances according to the situation it depends on the different factors including the availability of the life boat the number of the people at that time that have to escape and the rules that are being followed by the crew. Comparing different shipwrecks survival rate is not enough to prove that men are trying  to protect the children and the women. As far as this situation of Titanic is concerned the women and children were given priority, that is why there survival rate is quite high as compared to men. However it does not mean that men are selfish or their efforts are meaningless. Situation, panic and the lack of clearance instructions can influenced people decisions at the time. The real point cannot be determined simply by seeing the statistics of few of the disaster, as  it is not alone enough to prove that all the man are heroes or they are not even trying to save or protect womens and children.

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October 20, 2026, 10:23:58 PM
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Gender priorities don't matter in emergencies, like in the case of an accident. Then the rescuer has the goal to save more and more lives as soon as possible, but in some places we prefer women and children over young men, and that's the role of ethics. To learn this, we have the best example of the Titanic incident. This incident shows how crew members and many other brave people saved lives, and in some portions they gave priority to children and women to provide safety boats.

On the contrary I think it matters because if a man and his family is involved on a similar accident and there is an opportunity to save them while he struggle alone, definitely he will save his wife and the children first but however is only when someone doesn't have any relative on the incident before they would only prioritize on their survival before any other person. I actually acknowledge what the men on the Titanic did because is a rare thing to see in this world today and if they hadn't saved the children and women first the number they would have recorded could have been much higher than what they had.

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October 20, 2026, 10:44:38 PM
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Another thing you should know is that women are more than men when you want to count men by head to head. So naturally women are more in number coupled together that the few men gave their life willingly for their wife or women to survive. These even makes it worst. It's just like having %75 of women in the world and %25 of men. and out of the %25 men,  %10 gave out there lives leaving them with less than %15 percent. how will women not be more than enough? The calculation is crystal clear. Aside that women survive hard time than a man. Men go through a lot just to put food on the table of a woman, and sometimes they die in the process trying to make their family proud. It's not really easy for men, a big shout out to all men out there.

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October 21, 2026, 03:33:29 AM
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I just saw this on YouTube, I used AI to confirm it and it is true.

There are so many layers of wrongness in that one sentence, I dare not imagine how it can be worse...

...oh, shit.



But for accuracy and knowledge, i would avoid just using chatgpt statistics and prefer actually reading about it from journals and written books to get real insight. Because there are only few things more dangerous then overconfident people with superficial understanding of statistics.

How about overconfident people with superficial understanding of statistics, and a self-aggrandizing agenda?



From a societal view, women are seen as the weaker vessel, while men are seen as the stronger vessel.

Imagine growing up at a young age as a boy, the societal will make you to believe that you are meant to protect, care and provide
The way the world is structured is in such a way that the men cares more for the women and are always ready to give themselves for others while the women in their usual manner of being looked at as the weaker vessel
The sacrifice men go through on the daily basis just to keep up with their family, paying bills, making sure there is no lack in the family, ...
... it shows that without Men in this world, a lot of thnigs will not be accomplished.
Men are forever the most kind and selfless creatures anyone can think of. A man is born into believing that ...

When they tell you to be a gentleman, it means displeasing your self to please a woman and the world sees it as courtesy.
It’s not even about most times men are really trying all the time just to make their women looking good, normal women are made for men to take good care off,
Such sacrifices portray the role of men in the society revolving around all aspects of life be it in time of protection, provision and preservation, men are always in charge.
Men go through a lot just to put food on the table of a woman,

Yeah, this is why economic equality has been a major goal of feminism for the past sixty years. Dependent = chattel property.

When a man calls himself a good provider who puts food on the table of a woman, it means he is an asshole who wants to keep women barefoot, pregnant, and in the kitchen.

Btw, what is with the weaker vessel bullshit? I see that phrase repeated. Why the fuck is a cryptocurrency forum talking like a church gathering of a bunch of bible-banging fundies?

but the bigger problem will be if women can actually withstand the pressure that comes with political offices activities and still manage their domestic affairs which is something that is in born with women.

Roll Eyes

This kind of sacrifice of men is probably the reason why women got the vote.
Forget the fact that some women are trying to equate themselves with men, it's just a weak mentality. Men and women are not equal right from creation.

You should stop using Bitcoin. It is morally contaminating you.

The k in secp256k1 is for Koblitz. It is called a Koblitz curve, named for a mathematician and cryptographer who is married to a feminist Gender Studies professor.

You do not know this, because you are ignoramuses. So I am warning you, to save your souls: Every time you make or verify a Bitcoin signature, feminism rubs off on you. It sticks to you like pornography. God will punish you by casting you down into a lake of fire forever and forever and forever.

You cannot escape to altcoins, either. All credible alternatives to secp256k1 are designed by cryptographers who are basically feminists, and/or even women. There are no major cryptosystems designed by low-IQ morons like you. To save your souls, stop using modern math. It is Satanic.
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October 21, 2026, 05:14:19 AM
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The fact is that women and kids are most vulnerable in the case of harsh conditions like accidents or war situations, so don't think bad when such eventually happens which doesn't happen all the time any way, but the society have already set that standards, and make it clear that man should be head and women be the neck and if you check carefully women are in charge indirectly.

Government role also is given to more men than women, we are hopping that that mentality change very soon where we can see woman first president and other countries repeating it by electing women into election position.
I believe things are gradually changing and hopefully we will all get to the point where leadership is no longer viewed as only one gender but it will be be the both gender ,women too have the ability to lead, make decisions and contribute to the society also their opinions to really matter, what matter is competence not whether the person is a man or woman, for real everyone deserves equal opportunity to prove their self.

Well, in reality a few countries have already had  a woman as president, but women in that role are still vastly outnumbered by men.

Isabel Perón (Argentina, 1974) was the world's first female president. Vigdís Finnbogadóttir (Iceland, 1980) was the first woman to be directly elected president, while Angela Merkel (Germany) served four consecutive terms as chancellor...

Women might be physically weaker than men, but tbh it's shortsighted to think they're also behind when it comes to thinking,  decision making or leadership  ability.
I also agree  that everyone should get a fair chance to prove what they're capable of, rather than being judged based on whether they're a  man or a woman.

https://www.britannica.com/biography/Isabel-Peron
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1980_Icelandic_presidential_election
https://www.councilwomenworldleaders.org/angela-merkel

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October 21, 2026, 10:49:23 AM
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Women might be physically weaker than men, but tbh it's shortsighted to think they're also behind when it comes to thinking,  decision making or leadership  ability.
I also agree  that everyone should get a fair chance to prove what they're capable of, rather than being judged based on whether they're a  man or a woman.
There are some women who have more physical strength and power than men. But mostly speaking, that ability is with men because men do everything that not every woman can do, so they have more strength. But compared to household chores, men are quite weak, so the ability that women have is less than men and the ability that men have is less than women. This is not a competition, but worldly things. Some boys and girls compare each other, which is wrong because some women also work in the market and some work hard, but this does not mean that their status has become higher than men. Although men try and work more, women are the strongest in their homes, so the responsibility that men have is that they are strong in it and women are strong in their work.

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October 21, 2026, 11:58:47 AM
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I am sorry, you are replying seriously with, like, facts and stuff to an ignoramus who said:

but the bigger problem will be if women can actually withstand the pressure that comes with political offices activities and still manage their domestic affairs which is something that is in born with women.
the society have already set that standards, and make it clear that man should be head and women be the neck

If they said that maybe someday a woman can learn to use cryptography, would you reply with a list of woman professors of cryptography? Huh

I suggest a different response:

Government role also is given to more men than women, we are hopping that that mentality change very soon where we can see woman first president and other countries repeating it by electing women into election position.

Please check your calendar. The current year is 2026, not 1926 and not 1826. We are hoping that by the year 2126, we can cure your problem with an artificial prosthetic brain.
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October 21, 2026, 01:32:32 PM
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I watched that movie 'Titanic, and when the ship was about to submerge and rescue operations were ongoing I saw the rescuers calling out for women and children to enter the rescue boats first, it clearly shows the level of sacrifices that men makes so that women and children will be safe. I don't think that we men should fight it because it is in our nature to protect our women and children because they are "weaker" than us, we believe that men have natural strength to survive during physical struggles than women and children thereby allowing them to take the soft landings first. Unfortunately many men don't make it to very old age, they struggle so much to provide for their families and in the process they absorb a lot of stress and frustrations then they die but the women who doesn't absorb too many responsibilities lives into very old age.

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October 22, 2026, 03:13:01 AM
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I watched that movie 'Titanic, and when the ship was about to submerge and rescue operations were ongoing I saw the rescuers calling out for women and children to enter the rescue boats first, it clearly shows the level of sacrifices that men makes so that women and children will be safe. I don't think that we men should fight it because it is in our nature to protect our women and children because they are "weaker" than us, we believe that men have natural strength to survive during physical struggles than women and children thereby allowing them to take the soft landings first. Unfortunately many men don't make it to very old age, they struggle so much to provide for their families and in the process they absorb a lot of stress and frustrations then they die but the women who doesn't absorb too many responsibilities lives into very old age.

Whoa, hold on. It's not wrong to say men carry a ton of stress from shouldering the financial burden and most of the heavy work. But it is just not true that women carry less and have it easier than men.
We all have different role in society and within our families. Everyone has their own responsibilities and burden to carry.

Take family, for example. Husband take care of the finances, and that's certainly not easy. But raising kid, running the household, and taking care of her husband and children can be just as demanding. Raising kid especially is a huge responsibility that eat up a lot of time, effort sacrifice, and not just any man could step in and replace that.

If you don't buy that. Instead of only looking at young girl online, look at what our mothers went through. You will see their lives were full of hardship and pressure too, no walk in the park compared to what men put up with.

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October 22, 2026, 03:16:12 AM
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It's only a fool that will undermine the role that men plays in the society. I don't even want to name instances that men took the fall just for women and children to survive. Forget the fact that some women are trying to equate themselves with men, it's just a weak mentality.
Women who try to equate themselves with men are women who feel insecure, threat sensitive, timid, and overly sensitive to comments and expressions from the male gender. That's how feminism was born. If these women feel secure, they won't see vulnerability in their feminine structure.

Men and women are not equal right from creation..
Apparently, this is the type of statement that feminists hate a lot.
However, the Bible says that women should be submissive, which tells a lot about the hierarchy in gender.

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October 22, 2026, 04:51:51 AM
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I completely agree with you. Truly, women are the weaker vessel but in some cases, they can be stronger than some men, especially when faced with danger. So it depends on the individuals, because each individuals has their own strengths and abilities, regardless of whether they are men or women. That is why women can think for themselves, make decision, and take care of or protect themselves without depending on men, especially when they are unmarried.

One thing we need to understand  is that qualities like mental toughness, and sound judgment, and good decision making are developed through practice and experience over time. They are not innate trait exclusive to one gender.

So it's pretty shortsighted and onesided to judge someone ability to handle difficult situation based on gender alone.

And it is a mistake to assume men  are better at protecting themselves than women in every situation. We should judge people by what they're  actually capable of.

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October 22, 2026, 05:10:33 AM
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I watched that movie 'Titanic, and when the ship was about to submerge and rescue operations were ongoing I saw the rescuers calling out for women and children to enter the rescue boats first, it clearly shows the level of sacrifices that men makes so that women and children will be safe. I don't think that we men should fight it because it is in our nature to protect our women and children because they are "weaker" than us, we believe that men have natural strength to survive during physical struggles than women and children thereby allowing them to take the soft landings first. Unfortunately many men don't make it to very old age, they struggle so much to provide for their families and in the process they absorb a lot of stress and frustrations then they die but the women who doesn't absorb too many responsibilities lives into very old age.
I just believe it is meant to be so, the men are to protect and sacrifice for the women since they are the head. It is just nature and it so sad the men have to be the ones doing all this but it is believed that the men are the stronger and braver ones while the women are very vulnerable and scared, so the men do everything in their power to keep them safe from danger or anything that would harm them. So therefore, I don’t think is something that can be changed.

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October 22, 2026, 06:05:52 AM
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If I was in that Titanic I would have been among the 20% of men that survived. The men that survived were the wise ones. The ones that died thought they were making sacrifices for the world. But I won’t sacrifice myself for an adult female that is not my child to survive. I can only make such sacrifices for my child, definitely not my wife or my mother. It’s an emergency situation, everyone should look for a way to survive. If I was the one making the call on who to save between males and females, it will be 50:50 after all it’s gender equality they have been campaigning for over the years.

Well in an emergency situation phobia to save yourself may leads to such perception, but many never died because they are saving family but wealth, gold, silver and all sort of asset, in emergency situation many make different choice those that went for the asset seen that more important to live than been alive first and they lost both , that make me believe that many value their asset more than they value their life. But addendum to your assertion of savings yourself every emergency situation many tried all best it can protect it's family but where the situation goes out of hand the first is to take cover by protecting yourself first, because some emergency required everyone to run their raise through any possible measure of survival which I will agree with but having that called opportunity to saved but felt gender equality is called for a situation of that manner for seem laughable and that put away love in your heart.

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October 22, 2026, 06:38:52 AM
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I just believe it is meant to be so, the men are to protect and sacrifice for the women since they are the head. It is just nature and it so sad the men have to be the ones doing all this but it is believed that the men are the stronger and braver ones while the women are very vulnerable and scared, so the men do everything in their power to keep them safe from danger or anything that would harm them. So therefore, I don’t think is something that can be changed.
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You'reright, the hearts of men are different from women heart's. Men was created to protect and sacrifice for women, after when God created everything he first made man from his own image the he put the man in charge to take care of all the things he has created. Women are made from finished materials that's why God created them true our ribs he created them to be our assistants in life, be under the men so the men are the one to provide for them.

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October 22, 2026, 07:19:42 AM
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It’s not even about most times men are really trying all the time just to make their women looking good, normal women are made for men to take good care off, and that’s why all men’s sacrificed their life in order to make sure their women and children’s are in a good conditions always. But there’s some people that with a family’s and instead of them to take all their responsibilities, because their the one that take them to their home and some will just abandon their own homes to make themselves feel better; those types of people didn’t value others gender that is they do such things.

Man! Only woman who don’t have a job would wait for a man to take care of themselves. Men are also meant to take care of themselves.  There are some women who don’t like their husbands to take care of all the responsibilities, they take part of the family responsibilities because it is not mean for men alone, the responsibilities is for both of them. Men are willing to take every risks even if it will put their lives in danger they will, only for women to survive. It’s one of the reasons why some men don’t live as long as women, they sacrifice a lot, because we make women feel like they are meant to be taken care of.

However, it doesn’t mean we should be only one to make sacrifices. The last time I checked, we are all human and we all make sacrifices for people we do care about. Too much sacrifice will make a man become older than his age.

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October 22, 2026, 09:05:06 AM
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One thing we need to understand  is that qualities like mental toughness, and sound judgment, and good decision making are developed through practice and experience over time. They are not innate trait exclusive to one gender.

So it's pretty shortsighted and onesided to judge someone ability to handle difficult situation based on gender alone.

And it is a mistake to assume men  are better at protecting themselves than women in every situation. We should judge people by what they're  actually capable of.
You are right, anyone can experience mental stress. But men have their own struggles, which women may not be able to handle, and for that, they deserve to be appreciated for their strength. Not that women don't have their own challenges, which men may also struggle to handle. However, it is important to judge people based on their abilities, but that doesn't mean one shouldn't give respect or appreciation to those who deserve it.

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