Are they really make you the real owner of casino or just a referral agent?

[salad daging]

Maybe this is related to PlayW3 - Be the Boss: Launch Your Own Web3 Gaming Portal, where the parent platform appears to be PlayW3.

So if they have a license, it could be under the main operator, while the other operators are still using the same platform, but it's more like branding. I don't know how the profit sharing works for those who get their own brand, but if it's legit, I think this is an effective way of growing the parent casino.

You can create your own brand here, with 50% owner income and the simulation there can be adjusted.
- https://protocollp.playw3.com/

Or you can use the software agency (White-Label) of this site.
- https://www.malgotechnologies.com/id/playw3-clone-script

Is it because of this ease that the casino with this script is growing rapidly?

[terrific]

But I have a few questions that I haven't yet received answers to, such as who actually ensures the players win here? Like, do they provide the bankroll for the casino running on the sub-domain or does playw3 do this itself?

They have this FAQ and it says that they are protecting the winners but this is for the main website.
But for that question of yours, it doesn't answer that.
It's best to get that answer by contacting them and I think if it's on the sub domain then it's not on the house for the bankroll.
This is like franchising business, they own the materials and the platform but the capital is solely the burden of the franchisee.

[Crypto Library]

But I have a few questions that I haven't yet received answers to, such as who actually ensures the players win here? Like, do they provide the bankroll for the casino running on the sub-domain or does playw3 do this itself?

They have this FAQ and it says that they are protecting the winners but this is for the main website.
But for that question of yours, it doesn't answer that.

I have searched their FAQ a lot to get an exact answer on this issue, but so far I have not found any clear statement on their platform regarding my these questions.

It's best to get that answer by contacting them and I think if it's on the sub domain then it's not on the house for the bankroll.

I have already contacted their support, it seems their live support is not that good because, even as long as time goes on, they will still show to us "Waiting for a teammate".
I am not clear about the financial responsibility, let's see what answer I get from their support. Who is actually providing the bank roll here?

This is like franchising business, they own the materials and the platform but the capital is solely the burden of the franchisee.

If that's the case, I wouldn't call it a referral system with new marketing language.

[Hispo]

Apparently, they provide the infrastructure for you to operate your own casino, and of course they benefit from it. It's almost a trademark right without having to worry about all the bureaucracy and implementation that launching from scratch would require.

Still, there is something I don't understand... On the advertisement they can say they intentions is providing the means for anyone to be able to start their own casino and earn money with it, but legally and on paper, it is likely one is considered to be something like an "agent" of the casino or some thing of special client which is just bringing in gamblers and bettors to the ecosystem.

For one to be legally the owner of one's casino, one also needs to handle paperwork and get one's own license.

Again, I am not expert on this matter... But it seems to me one is not the owner of the infrastructure or the casino in the eyes of the law.

[ralle14]

This sounds like they're making you a referral agent because I doubt it's that easy and cheap to start a casino. In a way, it reminds me of the old days when some gambling sites were powered by moneypot, but instead of supporting them with just the bankroll, they're doing it all.

It's like they're trying to be a third party provider, but at the same time it carries so much risk given it's all on them to deliver the service.

Still, there is something I don't understand... On the advertisement they can say they intentions is providing the means for anyone to be able to start their own casino and earn money with it, but legally and on paper, it is likely one is considered to be something like an "agent" of the casino or some thing of special client which is just bringing in gamblers and bettors to the ecosystem.

That's their way of making it sound convincing, similar to how a casino would boast about being KYC-free even though it's only half true.

[terrific]

But I have a few questions that I haven't yet received answers to, such as who actually ensures the players win here? Like, do they provide the bankroll for the casino running on the sub-domain or does playw3 do this itself?

They have this FAQ and it says that they are protecting the winners but this is for the main website.
But for that question of yours, it doesn't answer that.

I have searched their FAQ a lot to get an exact answer on this issue, but so far I have not found any clear statement on their platform regarding my these questions.

That FAQ is for general answer of the main website and not for these topics we have here.
But I hope that this reaches them out and will also have the FAQ for those who partners with them and creates game through their platform.

It's best to get that answer by contacting them and I think if it's on the sub domain then it's not on the house for the bankroll.

I have already contacted their support, it seems their live support is not that good because, even as long as time goes on, they will still show to us "Waiting for a teammate".
I am not clear about the financial responsibility, let's see what answer I get from their support. Who is actually providing the bank roll here?

I can only tell a guess that it's not them who will provide the bankroll but that 'referral/franchisee'.
It's time for them to improve their support if they're unresponsive.

This is like franchising business, they own the materials and the platform but the capital is solely the burden of the franchisee.

If that's the case, I wouldn't call it a referral system with new marketing language.

Even I, also confused with how they call it. But we do understand their business model for this kind.

[Hispo]

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That's their way of making it sound convincing, similar to how a casino would boast about being KYC-free even though it's only half true.

Right, but we are not talking about just personal information and some documents, we are talking about services which offer alledged ownership of something which could generate revenue in a semi-passive way, that is something very different...

I believe people would welcome more transparency and being told the reality behind those third party gambling services, in the end, one does not legally own anything, one would be basically a worker for the main casino and it's administration, who are the ones holding the license and are properly registered on some jurisdiction.

[tread93]

But I have a few questions that I haven't yet received answers to, such as who actually ensures the players win here? Like, do they provide the bankroll for the casino running on the sub-domain or does playw3 do this itself?

They have this FAQ and it says that they are protecting the winners but this is for the main website.
But for that question of yours, it doesn't answer that.
It's best to get that answer by contacting them and I think if it's on the sub domain then it's not on the house for the bankroll.
This is like franchising business, they own the materials and the platform but the capital is solely the burden of the franchisee.

I dont see where folks would really want to franchise out the online casino bit. Unless of course they cannot afford the licensing fees and upkeep then it would make sense but at that point I would move to something with less regulation and easier on stability something like electric work or plumbing lol those are tried and true

[Crypto Library]

That FAQ is for general answer of the main website and not for these topics we have here.
But I hope that this reaches them out and will also have the FAQ for those who partners with them and creates game through their platform.

I wish also, but it remains to be seen when they will bring these questions to their attention.

Because it has already been over 20 hours since I contacted their live support regarding this related question but there has been no reply yet.

What I'll basically say here is that the way they present themselves but from the experience of their support system seems to me to the reality is different there.

I can only tell a guess that it's not them who will provide the bankroll but that 'referral/franchisee'.
It's time for them to improve their support if they're unresponsive.

I will say again here that there is a big difference between franchise and referral, franchise has both own responsibility and risk and at the same time it is profit making as business.

But in referral system I have no own risk and no extra responsibility and at the same time what we get as profit is commission.

If playw3's be the boss program works on franchise model then I would say that the bankroll issue will also have to be taken by the user who participates in this program. But I don't think that is the case, and at the same time unfortunately I haven't received their reply yet.

[Alphakilo]

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That's their way of making it sound convincing, similar to how a casino would boast about being KYC-free even though it's only half true.

Right, but we are not talking about just personal information and some documents, we are talking about services which offer alledged ownership of something which could generate revenue in a semi-passive way, that is something very different...

I believe people would welcome more transparency and being told the reality behind those third party gambling services, in the end, one does not legally own anything, one would be basically a worker for the main casino and it's administration, who are the ones holding the license and are properly registered on some jurisdiction.

It's as you say it is, it isn't a standard affiliate link but more like a franchise model on a hybrid space.
Money is only made if active players are sucked in, PlayW3 owns the cards and what makes it easy for setup to use is the lack of brain power required to code or organize the platform because PlayW3 already did that work for you.
There are of course crazy limitations attached to it, but I don't know much about that part.

[terrific]

I dont see where folks would really want to franchise out the online casino bit. Unless of course they cannot afford the licensing fees and upkeep then it would make sense but at that point I would move to something with less regulation and easier on stability something like electric work or plumbing lol those are tried and true

It's for those who want to do this type of business but they'll allow the usage of their resources.
Those with don't have big money and I think this what they offer is quite affordable for those who wants to test the waters.

I wish also, but it remains to be seen when they will bring these questions to their attention.

Because it has already been over 20 hours since I contacted their live support regarding this related question but there has been no reply yet.

What I'll basically say here is that the way they present themselves but from the experience of their support system seems to me to the reality is different there.

Yeah, it's different from the reality.
Because one quick response, and that means a lot already for an inquiry. And being in this business means that they should have that support 24/7.

I will say again here that there is a big difference between franchise and referral, franchise has both own responsibility and risk and at the same time it is profit making as business.

But in referral system I have no own risk and no extra responsibility and at the same time what we get as profit is commission.

If playw3's be the boss program works on franchise model then I would say that the bankroll issue will also have to be taken by the user who participates in this program. But I don't think that is the case, and at the same time unfortunately I haven't received their reply yet.

Great point, referral system doesn't cost anything until someone signs up while with the franchise model it requires some capital.
The revenue share model I think we can agree with that this is a referral system, and that confusing I've got before has finally been cleared.

[serjent05]

It seems that PlayW3.com's users are increasing a lot, I have seen a few casinos operating as a sub domain of PlayW3.com before. Here are two of them-Crypto2Cash.playW3.com , Easy.Playw3.com, there are probably more, but I can't remember or find them right now. I actually want to know if the gambling site through PlayW3.com can actually be operated as an owner or does it just work as a kind of referral system?
Anyone have any real experience to share somthing like - playW3.com?

This sounds like a white label partner system but if we look at how the profit is given, this is more likely a hybrid system that includes revenue sharing and affiliate system.

- Founding access: $1 (limited to first 1000 users)
- Standard access after launch: $100
- Lifetime access included

How Earnings Work

You earn from 4 main sources:

Your own play – up to 75% share
Direct players – up to 50% share
Affiliate players – up to 25% share
Sub network – up to 10% override

See this breakdown?  It is more like an affiliate system with a personalized affiliate casino homepage.  Where players who clicked on the referral link to play will go to the affiliate's personal casino homepage to play.  We can see this kind of site implemented in networking sites where a buyer goes to the affiliate's page to buy the item.

[Sammysmart001]

If playw3's be the boss program works on franchise model then I would say that the bankroll issue will also have to be taken by the user who participates in this program. But I don't think that is the case, and at the same time unfortunately I haven't received their reply yet.

The support ignoring you only is already a massive red flag, you having to provide the bank roll you are already taking the risk already, while they collet fees. You will be just a referral agent doing free marketing, if only they provide the money and just you a cut.

I will do stay away until they give a staring answer, cause either way they win and you take the stress.

[Fortify]

It seems that PlayW3.com's users are increasing a lot, I have seen a few casinos operating as a sub domain of PlayW3.com before. Here are two of them-Crypto2Cash.playW3.com , Easy.Playw3.com, there are probably more, but I can't remember or find them right now. I actually want to know if the gambling site through PlayW3.com can actually be operated as an owner or does it just work as a kind of referral system?
Anyone have any real experience to share somthing like - playW3.com?

If you don't own the top level domain then you are simply building up a website for somebody else. At any point those subdomains could be seized and any effort that the affiliate has put into them will transfer straight to the owner of playw3.com. It is a way for people with little experience building websites (in particular casinos) to get entry into the market, but customers aren't really going to stick around for very long with all the additional fees that will be built into the site - covering a commission for playw3 and for the person managing the sub domain. Frankly it also looks unprofessional and lower tier, but if you're a young webmaster it could give you a flavor of what it's like to run a gambling site and they will handle a lot of the technical details. If you are somehow a master salesperson then in theory you could funnel lots of paying customers through these sites but they will wise up eventually and abandon them.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Actually this is something like white label system. This is no ordinary referral system.

What is done by creating subdomain on site like PlayW3.com is much like running front end version of casino platform. Even if you create any subdomain and brand, actual back end control of entire site remain with main platform.
Game integration is primarily controlled by the parent site. Even I think they control everything like payment gateway and smart contract etc. So, you cannot call yourself completely independent owner.

From personal experience, I know that the most important thing in any business is its customer base. So I have a perfectly reasonable question: who owns the customer base of an online casino operating under this model? 🙋

The parent casino or the domain owners. Anyone else who is practically selling a brand name which is not theirs, has no business with the customers if the owners decide to retract and terminate the contract, say tomorrow.

If you can't transfer your customer base to another platform, then it's not your business. If the owners of PlayW3.com control the customer base and have full access to it, then you're in big trouble! Essentially, it's not your business. It could be taken away from you at any moment...

That's supposed to be in the business index 101. Perhaps, these squatters just want to make money and establish themselves?

I'm also very interested in who will bear legal responsibility in the event of a violation of gambling laws. After all, you might end up bearing all the risks, but not being the full owner of the online casino. This, in my opinion, is the worst possible scenario!

No. The worst case scenario would be the flip side of the coin (because the parent company has a name to protect) --- if one of those squatters violates these AML rules, does something out of the ordinary or gets involved in a scam running up hundreds of millions, then disappears. That leaves them no option but to dissipate all their worth to resolve an issue?

Furthermore, operating on someone else's subdomains, in my opinion, can be a red flag for potential players.

Big red flag!

[lionheart78]

This is more likely a networking-style casino-based scheme.  There is a membership, yes?  If there is, then this one is a big red flag.  They make us believe that we are part owner of the casino when we are really not.  That is one of the deceptions.

Then they offer a huge cashback reward of 75% from the person's gameplay.  The more they play, the greater the reward.  Now I wonder whether this is from the losses or from the amount wagered or from the token purchase.  Then comes the referral commission, and down the line commission.

I think by now we can get a clear idea that this is one of those possible Ponzi schemes.

[alani123]

It seems like an interesting concept but without personalised marketing to the exact brand each casino is going to have I don't see each individual casino operating under s subdomain doing that well. Who would go for this model when a casino can be launched by spending a few thousand these days anyway.

[Easy.Playw3.com]

I see quite a bit of speculation, which doesn’t surprise me. It’s a new type of solution - I’d call it a hybrid between a white-label setup and an affiliate program.

You get everything: the full infrastructure typical of a white-label arrangement, including the bankroll, license, games, sportsbook, predictions and even live support. Practically everything. The key difference is that the platform is set up as a subdomain, so you don’t pay for the infrastructure.

The revenue-sharing model works much like an affiliate program: the more people who register through your subdomain and place bets, the higher the percentage you earn.

[Cointxz]

Anyone have any real experience to share somthing like - playW3.com?

I frequently saw this casino being promoted on social media but I don’t like playing with this type of casino that use different websites as mirror link and run by different user.

An “owner” is the popular term right now in online casino instead of an affiliate by just giving them a unique mirror link which is just the same logic with an affiliate. This create an illusion to own your casino.

You’re right that it’s just same as affiliate since the play3 owner is the sole responsible for all the players registered through this different mirror link.

[Easy.Playw3.com]

An “owner” is the popular term right now in online casino instead of an affiliate by just giving them a unique mirror link which is just the same logic with an affiliate. This create an illusion to own your casino.

You’re right that it’s just same as affiliate since the play3 owner is the sole responsible for all the players registered through this different mirror link.

I haven’t seen how a system based on mirrors works in practice, but from what you describe, it operates on a similar principle.