No welcome bonus at the start. Is it still a go for casino for you?

[Miles2006]

Casino bonuses is not really a top feature in terms of trusting a casino, personally I have zero interest for bonuses. From my observation majority of casinos offering the bonus don’t value customers interest, like a poor service, while some few casinos I encountered without free bonuses seems to amaze me.
A reputable casino will always build their platform, secondly just because a casino offers free deposit bonus or free spins doesn’t mean the casino is worth trying, the whole bonus system is like a marketing strategy now so differentiating between real and fake is actually difficult, I don’t mind skipping the welcome bonus if I had to because so far casinos offering free bonus end up making things hard for gamblers.

[taufik123]

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So what's for you ,fellas, are welcome bonuses actually a reason to choose a project or it is just something we expect by default now?

Would you choose a brand new casino with no welcome offer at all? or is that an instant skip for you?

Will not ignore the casinos that do not give the Welcome Bonus, because it is not only those bonuses that I only look at but how the game system is, how much RTP is given and whether the casino is certified or not.
Because if you only look at the welcome bonus, casinos that have a good system and games will not be assessed, because the welcome bonus system can still be manipulated through the system used.

But most new casinos today will give a welcome bonus in order to collect more new players,
but for old casinos that are already well-known some welcome bonus programs or also Rakeback will be a trigger for a refresh so that the casino can be more noticed.

[Powerjumboo]

After checking out a few new projects, the question stands out - would you even bother trying a new operator if it offered NOTHING for signing up and first dep?

When almost every project is throwing welcome bonuses at you these days. Free spins, deposit matches, free bets, whatever. That it's starting to feel like we've gotten so used to getting free stuff that signing up without it almost seems useless and offensive

But that's not all... if a new casino offers BETTER RTP, no crazy wagers and solid games, is it enough for you?

Personally I'd probably still give it a try if something about the brand, communication and the platform caught my attention. But then again.. why would I pick a completely new operator, trust it, with zero bonuses when established ones are literally paying me to join?

So what's for you ,fellas, are welcome bonuses actually a reason to choose a project or it is just something we expect by default now?

Would you choose a brand new casino with no welcome offer at all? or is that an instant skip for you?

Most casinos nowadays offer welcome bonuses because in the crowd of hundreds of casino platforms, there is no alternative to bonus offers to stay in the crowd of customers and attract new customers. Maybe one or two people are not attracted to bonus offers but I think most people are attracted to bonus offers. Personally, I do not chase bonuses because I think chasing bonuses is a waste of time because it has been seen that if I chase bonuses and receive those bonuses, I will have to go through many conditions that may not be possible for me to fulfill, which is why I do not like this bonus system very much.

[Nothingtodo]

Gamblers rush new casinos because of welcome bonuses and that shouldn't be the reason of choosing a casino to gamble in . I am not a fan of bonus or new casinos. I prefer sticking to a reputable casino that has everything I need in a casino rather than, gambling in random casinos.

However, I can test a casino but not for the sake of bonus. I prefer to make my deposit and play with my own money in the start.

Gamblers usually think that if there is no welcome bonus, then the casino is not good. And there are many gamblers who usually get a free welcome bonus and they bet based on that. In reality, they do not spend money on gambling, but rather they create an account to use the free bonus they get. However, you are right that you should not choose a casino based only on the welcome bonus. Those casinos that do not offer a welcome bonus may have a different future.

[lombok]

I believe that majority of us here never chase for the bonuses anymore after experiencing with the past casinos we've used that they ask for a lot of requirements to become eligible for it. So after knowing those conditions, it has discouraged many of us not to chase and pursue it anymore. But, we'll gamble in a casino that we like and we'll look at them for the other factors they have which we like. And that's the typical customer support, speed of withdrawals like the common ones we look for and we're totally okay with that even if the the notif keeps popping out about their rewards.

It becomes hard for individuals to enjoy casino promotional offers after they realize how complicated the rules become when it comes to cashing out their winnings. It is common practice for experienced players to feel assured about the security of payments and fast live chat responses whenever there are problems in the technology department. Notification of free spins or additional balance become temporary because, in the end, the security and reliability of gambling become more important. Gambling sites that provide convenience to its members by having fast payment methods always succeed in winning their loyalty without even offering large prizes.

[el che]

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Would you choose a brand new casino with no welcome offer at all? or is that an instant skip for you?

Instant skip for me, no doubt!

It’s not because I care about welcome bonuses, most of those "100% deposit matches" are garbage traps with 40x wagering anyway. The real problem is trust and risk balance. When a casino is brand new, it has zero track record and no reputation for actually paying out big wins. Established sites already have that trust. If a new operator comes along asking me to take all the initial risk on their unproven platform while offering nothing to sweeten the deal, not even raw rakeback, no wager spins or a risk free trial, there is literally zero reason to pick them.

[Hispo]

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Would you choose a brand new casino with no welcome offer at all? or is that an instant skip for you?

A new casino which offered nothing special to newcomers would not stand up among other thousands of services with are available within the gambling ecosystem, but it would not be an instant skip to me either.
In order for me to give it a chance, it would take me to hear very good things about such casinos from people here on the forum, good reviews about their games, their costumer service, their art style and original games, and building a good reputation through time. Under those circumstances, I would not mind to open a new account in order to get whether a casino is as good as people say on the internet.

[Smack That Ace]

how much RTP is given and whether the casino is certified or not.

Hmm, game system, RTP and certification are more important than welcome bonus.
However, just because any casino advertises 97% RTP, it does not mean that same RTP applies to all of its game.
Sometime, same game can even have multiple RTP configuration.
For me, when it comes to any new casino, transparent game information, verifiable license and clear withdrawal policy are far more convincing than welcome bonus.

Casino bonuses is not really a top feature in terms of trusting a casino, personally I have zero interest for bonuses. From my observation majority of casinos offering the bonus don’t value customers interest, like a poor service, while some few casinos I encountered without free bonuses seems to amaze me.

Not offering bonus is not any sign that casino is good. Just because any casino offer welcome bonus, it doesn't mean that casino is bad.
To me, a bonus is a secondary benefit. It is not any substitute for trust. To trust any new operator, verifiable track record is far more important than marketing claim.

[Joeboy]

Casinos that do not offer a casino bonus are just like competing to lose.

What's the reason for running a business if they cannot keep up with the competition, so I believe even small casinos should still have a welcome bonus, in fact I believe they should offer more aggressive bonuses and promotions so they can attract more gamblers.

I will skip them although i normally don't avail the welcome bonus.

Sure and that coz the market is very competitive right now, with numerous casino springing up from every side...Amd since almost all casino would want to attract new players, they will always try to implement the welcome bonus strategy to achieve that...Even small and start up casino also need to find a way to become attractive for new customers especially when the competition tends to be against a bigger and well established casinos...One point to consider about bonuses though is that not many casino can be able to sustain such practices especially the new casino and the financially struggling ones ..Because offering free bonuses, spins and whatnot could very well run the casino down more quicker... At times what a casino may even need to attract and maintain users is simply their reputation...The invitation of more users can even be done by other user who have gotten a first hand experience of how reliable and straightforward the casino is...

[Alphakilo]

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Would you choose a brand new casino with no welcome offer at all? or is that an instant skip for you?

A new casino which offered nothing special to newcomers would not stand up among other thousands of services with are available within the gambling ecosystem, but it would not be an instant skip to me either.
In order for me to give it a chance, it would take me to hear very good things about such casinos from people here on the forum, good reviews about their games, their costumer service, their art style and original games, and building a good reputation through time. Under those circumstances, I would not mind to open a new account in order to get whether a casino is as good as people say on the internet.

Although am used to a certain fiat based online casino that I have used for a long time before crypto casinos are now a thing because of my presence in this community and my knowledge of cryptocurrency, I joined that particular casino because of the reputation it has among my friends. I used a different platform from theirs back then, but when I got lazy to make my own bets or there was a lucky hand we easily got a good game from, it was hard for me to get the code to the ticket to bet for myself.
So that made me join a new casino that was what they used and could easily get the codes to bet on when there was someone in our cycle feeling lucky that period.
I didn't even care about any welcome bonus or even recollected if I got any, but I just wanted to join and that was it.

So for me as far as a new casino is concerned and my experience so far, I look at the RTP, the UI appeals and the kind of games it has, if it's something I was actually looking for. The bonus part cones last as it really doesn't matter at first, but I must say it's an added appeal these days because I have had a fair share of experiences and losses using a casino that hardly rewards players despite their constant deposits and losses that's often times more than the gains ever made.

[Zaka1221]

Personally, I would choose it, as I’m not a big fan of welcome bonuses given my playstyle, I always end up losing when I use them, and I simply don’t have the patience to meet all the requirements they impose. I see no reason to rule it out entirely; it just happens to suit my preferences.

However, I would discard it completely if it prevented me from making withdrawals, or if the withdrawal process were handled manually. In that case, I’d drop it for good and never return to me, that’s a major red flag suggesting something isn’t right with the site.

People who are well aware of the tactics of casinos usually never love to have welcome bonuses because there are enough restrictions that are not helping and give enough headache to them, mostly for new casinos having quick withdrawals and enough markets with a good number of games helpful because punters love when they have things on a good level and they always have good support.

Promotions always need to have fair enough policies, but things are always on the casino side and never give good results. Just because of this, most members discard these bonuses; they want to have quick withdrawals. There is not a good ratio of members who always have this welcome bonus in their strategy.

[lombok]

People who are well aware of the tactics of casinos usually never love to have welcome bonuses because there are enough restrictions that are not helping and give enough headache to them, mostly for new casinos having quick withdrawals and enough markets with a good number of games helpful because punters love when they have things on a good level and they always have good support.

Promotions always need to have fair enough policies, but things are always on the casino side and never give good results. Just because of this, most members discard these bonuses; they want to have quick withdrawals. There is not a good ratio of members who always have this welcome bonus in their strategy.

The terms and conditions of new player welcome promotions usually impose a rather significant responsibility in the form of turnover obligations that gradually consume the gambling bankroll without providing any concrete benefits. Experienced gamblers pay special attention to the process of fast and trouble free withdrawal of earnings into their own pockets without having to go through cumbersome procedures requiring patience. Diverse choice of games and prompt customer service create an ideal gambling atmosphere that goes way beyond the simple attraction of a no deposit bonus. The unequal nature of terms and conditions that always benefit the betting operator makes these bonuses irrelevant in comparison with the need for a peace of mind during gambling. Satisfaction of testing one’s luck is always connected with a fast payment system, the absence of any concealed commissions, and the full freedom of managing the gambling gains independently from any unilateral terms.

[Versatile_choice]

If not that you brought this discussion i almost forgot that a casino is supposed to share welcome bonues at the start, maybe that is because I don't take bonus offer that serous. The truth is I'm not the type that chase after bonus offer, it is not part of the things I'm expecting from a casino. I'm ready to gamble without even looking at my bonus history. But for the sake of other gamblers that likes bonus or even have that as one of the requirements a casino would meet before they could say it is worth giving a trial i would say a casino should try and offer welcome bonus.

Bonus is good but I don't rely on it and the wagering requirement they usually request for is what made me not to pick interest in anything bonus.

[Y3shot]

Most casinos nowadays offer welcome bonuses because in the crowd of hundreds of casino platforms, there is no alternative to bonus offers to stay in the crowd of customers and attract new customers. Maybe one or two people are not attracted to bonus offers but I think most people are attracted to bonus offers. Personally, I do not chase bonuses because I think chasing bonuses is a waste of time because it has been seen that if I chase bonuses and receive those bonuses, I will have to go through many conditions that may not be possible for me to fulfill, which is why I do not like this bonus system very much.

The bonuses are a marketing strategy that many gamblers are very much interested in, but there is nothing special about these bonuses. Because of casino bonuses, some gamblers jump from one casino to another. Having a bonus is good, but some gamblers should learn not to be swayed by bonuses and shouldn't let them be the reason for visiting every gambling site just to grab bonuses. This is one of the reasons why some gamblers get addicted because of their gambling activities.

[alegotardo]

After checking out a few new projects, the question stands out - would you even bother trying a new operator if it offered NOTHING for signing up and first dep?

When almost every project is throwing welcome bonuses at you these days. Free spins, deposit matches, free bets, whatever. That it's starting to feel like we've gotten so used to getting free stuff that signing up without it almost seems useless and offensive

But that's not all... if a new casino offers BETTER RTP, no crazy wagers and solid games, is it enough for you?

I am not someone who goes around "testing" new casinos unless there is a good recommendation and they already have a good reputation.
But, if I ever decided to change this, I think I would try one, but not because the bonus, I would try it if the "value" the casino offers is much better than an ordinary bonus: higher RTP, clear rules, fast withdrawals and real and interesting games.... why!? Because bonuses is marketing, RTP and withdrawal conditions is product!
A welcome bonus is only attractive if the wagering requirements is acceptable, if they is practical for me without "sabotage" the withdrawal.

Anyway, the question is: a casino bonus, which as you said, is already common nowadays and on every site... is it a differentiator for you? Not for me!

[Mate2237]

Not every gambler is interested in bonuses, it actually cool to utilize free money but for those that are experienced when it comes to betting they know that it is just more than bonuses or free games that makes a casino reliable there's actually a lot more than that, choosing a site should be take more than that because bonuses aren't as important as some certain things when dealing with a lot of casinos.

A casino might offer a huge bonus but have a poor customer service and probably withdrawal issues, of what use Will those bonuses be when these features are poor, you might win through a lucky spin and at the end of the day your withdrawal will be delayed.

[Hardyrobust]

Not every gambler is interested in bonuses, it actually cool to utilize free money but for those that are experienced when it comes to betting they know that it is just more than bonuses or free games that makes a casino reliable there's actually a lot more than that, choosing a site should be take more than that because bonuses aren't as important as some certain things when dealing with a lot of casinos.

A casino might offer a huge bonus but have a poor customer service and probably withdrawal issues, of what use Will those bonuses be when these features are poor, you might win through a lucky spin and at the end of the day your withdrawal will be delayed.

That exactly the point, it is not everyone that will be interested in a casino bonuses. There are other things that will attract them to a new casino, although plenty of people will rush and start using a new casino because of bonuses especially when the bonus is big. However this is risky because they don't know much about the casino. Gambler's should learn to make research about new casino before starting to use the casino and not because the casino is giving out bonuses.

[uneng]

If not that you brought this discussion i almost forgot that a casino is supposed to share welcome bonues at the start, maybe that is because I don't take bonus offer that serous.

That is because bonus offers aren't serious... They aren't benefical for gamblers, so naturally, it makes no sense to chase bonuses or consider it a must when looking for a casino where to play. The purpose of bonuses is to encourage gamblers losing money faster, and it doesn't take long until gamblers realize that, so they stop applying for such offers, which I consider tough challenges.

[Hispo]

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A casino might offer a huge bonus but have a poor customer service and probably withdrawal issues, of what use Will those bonuses be when these features are poor, you might win through a lucky spin and at the end of the day your withdrawal will be delayed.

I supposed people will try to find an equilibrium between reputation, liquidity  and bonuses.
It does not make sense to try to get bonuses from new casinos and casinos with null reputation , it does not matter how good those bonuses are on paper.

It is not attractive to some people to have casinos with a very good reputation but with a complete lack of bonuses, events and races. That is why there are so many gamblers who venture on this ecosystem seeking better bonuses and events, to get more out their deposits.

It sounds logical to me, even though I am not so much into bonuses.

[TedMosby]

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But that's not all... if a new casino offers BETTER RTP, no crazy wagers and solid games, is it enough for you?
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Would you choose a brand new casino with no welcome offer at all? or is that an instant skip for you?

I see gambling as something for fun, but winning money (and being able to withdraw it) for sure adds an extra layer of enjoyment. So, better RTP and reasonable wagering requirements are also important to me. Game selection sometimes becomes the main reason, especially when I play at a casino where money is not my main priority.

And yeah, I will definitely try a brand new casino even without a welcome bonus. As long as it gets good ratings and reviews here, and as long as they are paying out, I think a welcome bonus is nothing compared to all these factors I mentioned. Those of us who often play at casinos are also used to wagering requirements that sometimes (or maybe often for some people) only waste our time. They give us a bonus, a big win in the beginning, and make us stay longer to meet the wagering requirements, only to end up with nothing. If you asked me how often I claim welcome bonuses or deposit bonuses, I can say I rarely claim them nowadays.

But I'm not saying they're useless. Again, they're still useful for people who play for fun while keeping a chance to win money. So...

• Playing with a bonus - Mainly for fun, while keeping the chance to make money.
• Playing demo - Mainly for fun, with no chance to win money.
• Playing without a bonus - Mainly for money, while keeping the excitement.