WEEKLY SPAMCHAIN REPORT

[Meretrix]

Bitcoin is not a dickbutt jpeg repository.

WTF, I had a post censored for being too sexual, and Luke gets to have Pepe sigspam the forum for anal sex porn? 

Stay classy, mother forkers!

[ABCbits]

Instead you just attack me, and talk about XBT.

Nope, we talked about lukeshitcoin, XBT is BItcoin , no matter how your mentally challenged idiot master is trying to say otherwise, making a fool of himself
https://x.com/LukeDashjr/status/2119543477012742425

I can't see entire conversation since i'm not logged in to X, but why he's "talking" with chatbot?

Everything played out like the oh so spam-addict "Coretard" (as you call them) camp predicted (hint: they don't like spam, but they know that it's a challenge to prevent it and BIP-110 has not worked at all).

Or rather, it's a challenge to prevent spam/non monetary/arbitrary data TX without also blocking certain monetary TX, including ones that use custom spending script (such as wallet that support inheritance feature) that very few people use.

[PepeLapiu]

You people are hilarious.

I just demonstrated that in one week, spam took up 48% of block space, and paid 9x cheaper than monetary users.

You people are so completely hopeless, that all you can do is attack me and tie me up to XBT.

[PrivacyG]

We did indeed suffer a spam attack done by a single person.
You can't respond with filters right away. The appropriate filters were implemented with the next node release and they were very successful. You can see the results at cesspool.lol

You could also have less noise in a restaurant by strangling the person who makes the most noise and laughs the hardest, and it would have results!  You could also not call that murder or strangling but 'filtering' the noise level for the rest of the customers, it would still be murder by strangling at the end of the day though.

It is however understandable that the murderer would not consider their own action to be a murder as it was always about simply filtering the noise, just like you can not get around the fact that what you are praising is actually Censorship, hoping that it some day ends up on a Censorship resistant Blockchain.

Enjoy your censored Shit Coin losing purchasing power faster than Fiat!

[DaveF]

We did indeed suffer a spam attack done by a single person.
You can't respond with filters right away. The appropriate filters were implemented with the next node release and they were very successful. You can see the results at cesspool.lol

You could also have less noise in a restaurant by strangling the person who makes the most noise and laughs the hardest, and it would have results!  You could also not call that murder or strangling but 'filtering' the noise level for the rest of the customers, it would still be murder by strangling at the end of the day though.

It is however understandable that the murderer would not consider their own action to be a murder as it was always about simply filtering the noise, just like you can not get around the fact that what you are praising is actually Censorship, hoping that it some day ends up on a Censorship resistant Blockchain.

Enjoy your censored Shit Coin losing purchasing power faster than Fiat!

Just as a side note, probably does not matter since nobody is using lukecoin but core released 32.1 a couple of weeks ago all the 29.x branches are EOL.
Since luke is building knots off of the legacy unsupported code sooner or later a bug is going to be found that may not be patched in a timely manner.

Not a big deal but something to consider.

-Dave

[PrivacyG]

Just as a side note, probably does not matter since nobody is using lukecoin but core released 32.1 a couple of weeks ago all the 29.x branches are EOL.
Since luke is building knots off of the legacy unsupported code sooner or later a bug is going to be found that may not be patched in a timely manner.

Not a big deal but something to consider.

-Dave

Having significantly decreasing purchasing power AND a bug related collapse is experiencing two dickbutts in one, you could say.

[PepeLapiu]

Okay, reported to moderators for move to Altcoin Discussion.

You are joking, right?
I only wrote about spamcoin in OP, I didn't write anything about any other coin.

It's you people that keep bringing up XBT and Luke Dashjr.
Maybe you all should move to altcoin discussion..

You could also have less noise in a restaurant by strangling the person who makes the most noise and laughs the hardest, and it would have results!  You could also not call that murder or strangling but 'filtering' the noise level for the rest of the customers, it would still be murder by strangling at the end of the day though.

That's too funny. You are comparing filtering spam with murder! That's so funny!
And nobody here is going go correct you, because they all agree with you on some level that filtering spam is a very bad thing.

And that's probably why some left - because BTC has officially turned into spamcoin. Half of the blocks is pure fucking garbage, and none of you have a problem with that. In this scan week period, spammers were getting a 9x cheaper price over monetary users for the same block space. And none of you have a problem with that. Of course none of you run a node, none of you think nodes matter unless they are "economic nodes" (aka big industry nodes)0
 

you can not get around the fact that what you are praising is actually Censorship, hoping that it some day ends up on a Censorship resistant Blockchain.

When you go to a Muslim temple, you should expect "censorship" of Christian and Jewish faith. Same if you go to any other riligioys denomination and expect them to validate your other religion.

Bitcoin was created to preserve your right to money. Bitcoin can not survive if it's just is to protect your right to dickbutt.jpeg.

But according to you, Bitcoin exists to protect your right to force 80,000 nodes to host your garbage data until the end of times.

When Satoshi was confronted with the idea of Lady Gaga videos filling up the chain, he was not concerned with "censorship" of Lady Gafa videos, he didn't compare filters to murdering people in a restaurant, and he certainly was not stoopit enough to say "those are just transa tiobs you don't like. What he did say is this: "That's why we have transaction fees. There are other things we can do if necessary."?;

[nullius]

You are joking, right?

No, I’m not joking.  I’m also not joking that I reported your latest two consecutive posts for violation of the rule against multi-posting.  Not to censor you:  Moderators can, and probably will edit your posts to stitch them together.

Please learn the forum’s rules before spamming it with your nonsense.

Enjoy your censored Shit Coin losing purchasing power faster than Fiat!

I have a much longer response in mind, but alas—for now, I’ll must needs leave this at quoting your post, making popcorn, and leaving this other remark perhaps to be continued later:

I actually do think it’s necessary to remember:  Bitcoin indeed has the freedom to do a contentious hardfork as a thermonuclear option.  But why is it that thus far, everyone who’s ever attempted it meets one or more of (and usually many of) the following criteria:

• Obsessed with the blocksize—with belief that it’s either too small or too big.  I don’t mean healthy technical discussion of blocksize tradeoffs; I mean obsessed with the blocksize.
• Either subtly or overtly wants to censor Bitcoin.
• Uses hype and FUD tactics, emotionalist argumentation, sexualized (and sex-negative) insults, and/or ALL CAPS SUBJECT LINES.
• Advocates for their contentious hardfork with technical misinformation.
• Scammer.
• Lunatic.
• Likely compromised by CIA.
• Found 0day security flaw in Bitcoin, avoiding accidental patch (Jihan with covert ASICBOOST that Segwit fixed).
  
• Issues fake BIPs.

This list can be extended, to update those fork bingo cards that I vaguely recall seeing somewhere in 2017.

[PepeLapiu]

You are joking, right?

No, I’m not joking. 

You are either joking or delusional. Which is it!
I have said absolutely nothing about Blake2b. Others here keep bringing it up. Than you make me out to be the one obcessed with Blake2b?
You are either joking or delusional. Which is it?

About your other points. Both the Bcash and the Core side of that fork were "obcessed" with block size. One side wanted much bigger blocks, at the expense of the nodes. And the other side wanted smaller blocks,for the benefit of nodes, with a scaling solution called Lightning.

The vision and the promise were that we would all move to Lightning to keep the chain small and to get fast anonimous and cheap payments on LN. And keep the chain mostly to open and close channels.

It didn't turn out that way at all. Instead the devs are neglecting Lightning, there is no push to move anything to Lightning, and they appear to get busy filling the blocks with spam instead of trying to scale.

And yes, you might say I am "obcessed" with block size. Personally, I think the chain should be made much smaller, even if of temporarily. So that there is no more room for all that spam, and there is more effort to move to Lightning.

Lightning is the secret sauce that scales bitcoin, makes bitcoin payments private, fast, and cheap.

But there seem to be very little effort towards doing that. Instead they get busy onboarding scams like USDT and other spam cases while removing spam filters.


We just saw that mining us completely centralized and captured, core is completely corrupt and deceptive, and certainly centralized. The only aspect of bitcoin that is still decentralized is the nodes. And we were just told "your node doesn't matter", " your node is not economic and technical enough".

[nullius]

You are either joking or delusional. Which is it!
I have said absolutely nothing about Blake2b. Others here keep bringing it up. Than you make me out to be the one obcessed with Blake2b?
You are either joking or delusional. Which is it?

Weekly report of the state of spam on the spam chain (BTC).

Bitcoin is not a dickbutt jpeg repository.
Join the fight against turning bitcoin into spamware.
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I have no time for your weasel-wording to pump not-BTC while pretending you don’t.

I dislike blockchain spam, and I oppose miner centralization.  You’re not a good advocate against these things.  And censorship based on FUD and sexualized insults is not the answer to the real problems.

[PepeLapiu]

I have no time for your weasel-wording to pump not-BTC while pretending you don’t.

I don't. My message is the exact same as it were before XBT even forked off the miners. You are inserting motives where none exists.

I dislike blockchain spam, and I oppose miner centralization.  

Given that there is absutely no effort to do anything about either problems, good luck with that.
The movement of people who were concerned about centralisation and spam and doing something about, they left BTC. So rest assured the problem will only get worst from now on.

You’re not a good advocate against these things.  And censorship based on FUD and sexualized insults is not the answer to the real problems.

You claim you don't like spam yet to frame anti-spam measures as censorship. Talking out of both sides of your mouth. Are you a politician? You'd be good at it.

Furthermore, when bsv decided to blow open their op_return in 2019, they got flooded right away with child porn. It was so bad that they had to do an emergency update. Mind you BSV is a centralized shitcoin, so it was easy to fix fast. But you would have to be insane to tell yourself we can do the exact same thing and expect different results.

you can not get around the fact that what you are praising is actually Censorship, hoping that it some day ends up on a Censorship resistant Blockchain.

You are claiming that any anti-spam measure is censorship. That is ridiculous, but don't expect anyone else on the forum to correct you.
The fact is, half of the block content us garbage and spam.Spam in an actual part of BTC now. And so you can expect nobody else here to correct tour claim. Because being pro-BTC now means being pro-spam. Anyone who is pro-BTC is defacto also pro-spam now.

[nullius]

Okay, reported to moderators for move to Altcoin Discussion.

You are joking, right?

Since the moderators have now properly moved this topic to Altcoin Discussion (and they kindly stitched together your double-post), please feel free to tell us all about how

The movement of people who were concerned about centralisation and spam and doing something about, they left BTC.

Where did they go?  🤔

@LukeDashjr

XBT=BTC
10:55 PM · Oct 14, 2026

You claim you don't like spam yet to frame anti-spam measures as censorship.

I hate email spam.  But when Google and Microsoft discard or junk email from independent mail providers and self-hosted mailservers, I call that censorship (plus, in that case, monopolistic centralization pressure).  Got it?

Talking out of both sides of your mouth. Are you a politician? You'd be good at it.

Okay, whatever.

blow open their op_return
child porn

Ah, the most fearsome of Timothy C. May’s Four Horsemen of the Infocalpyse.  It’s true that when a system is censorship-resistant, nothing can be censored.  It’s crypto-anarchy.

That’ll sound scary to everyone who doesn’t (a) know that it’s always been possible to embed image files in Bitcoin’s blockchain, (b) see the Core discusions about unlimiting OP_RETURN to try to save the UTXO set from getting actively spammed (I was away from Bitcoin for years, and it’s one of the first things I saw on return), and (c) notice that you subtly moved the goalposts from spam to OP_RETURN.

By way of thanks, here’s something that’ll really scare ya:

Self-mod thread.  PepeLapiu is banned; any posts by them, and any replies, shall be deleted without comment.

Subject: Dual-use transactions for harmless, quasi-steganographic arbitrary data on-chain

...I did a one-off dirty hack on it to grind a change address that produced the desired zeroes in the txid.  As you can see on-chain, I later spent the change.

At the time, I did realize that I could use this method to store data in the txid!  I’ve considered writing a wallet which does exactly that, and thought about a protocol for it.  If the data are encrypted, this is even a covert channel; is it called “steganography” to hide pseudrandom data in pseudorandom data?

If/when I write a wallet that stores arbitrary data in txids and wtxids (about 4 bytes at a time), with a well-designed protocol to store and retrieve files this way, are you going to scream about child porn?  It’ll even work in Knots, and you can’t censor it; I’m creating a covert channel that’s indistinguishable from any other transaction, but can be used for any arbitrary data.

Dirt-cheap forked shitcoins will probably be more popular for storing and transmitting images this way.  The bandwidth limit is (a) how much CPU/GPU power someone has for grinding, and (b) how many tiny transactions they can afford to make.

If someone slowly, patiently grinds a child porn image into txids/wtxids on Lukecoin, waits for it all to be buried under 10,000 or 20,000 blocks, and then distributes the succinct retrieval key out-of-band so that anyone can easily reconstruct the file from Lukechain, then what will Luke do about it?  Break the Merkle tree in every block, and re-mine/rewrite every subsequent blockhash?

^^^ On-topic for Altcoin Discussion.

Note:  Unedited archive of message #67340253, to which I drafted my reply while multi-tasking before I saw it was edited.  Will not bother to edit anything.

[PepeLapiu]

I'm not going to address all of that in one reply, it would take too long.

Imagine I come up with a new way to spam. Yes, that spam method has always been possible, but who cares what's "possible" when nobody is actually doing it?

It's possible to use your cigarette lighter into a bomb that could blow open your window on an airliner. But let's not worry about that until it actually starts to happen, okay?

It's always been possible to ignore the posted speed limit, but we leave it up anyways, because the place turns into a shithole without it.

So imagine I came up with a new way to spam. That into itself does nothing. Sure, I can post some spam somewhere, but it's completely useless if nobody is willing to pay me for this garbage.

What you need to make spam work is a lot of time and money. You need a marketing strategy, you need air time on a lot of podcasts, you need stage time at conferences. You need a lot of marketing to make people want to invest in your garbage spam jpegs. All that is going to cost a shitload of money.

Are your investors going to be comfortable with you doing this on XBT as they very well know we will be hostile to your spam, and filter you as we did with bitfiles.io ?

Or are you just going to build your spam business on spamcoin where you know they will do nothing about it, and even maybe blow open an other spam filter just for you, if you ask nice?

Sure, it's always "possible" to spam any chain you want. But will erect your shop on a coon that is not friendly to spam? Or on a coin that is very friendly to spam?

Before Cassie Rodamor launched his ordinal garbage, core deleted their definition of bitcoin as money from their documentation. And after he launched, core devs started to frame filters as censorship in one way or an other.

And Zhao went on several podcasts, insulting monetary bitcoiners, and basically saying that there us no spam problem, the problem is that I just don't like cute kitten pictures, according to Zhao.

That"a right buddy. No spam problem at all, the real problem is me being hateful towards cute kittens.

Zhao can go fuck herself, stupid fucking bitch.

But the point being, if Rodamor was to do it again, he would do it on the spamchain, not on XBT. Because he knows full well core devs won't do fuck all about it, and even defend him from bitcoiners who try to filter out his garbage.

We all know it's wouldn't work on XBT, even though it's significantly cheaper. Everyone knows XBT would not be friendly to spam,  but spamcoin is.

Yes, bitfiles did attack XBT. But that guy was at best an idiot and a throll who reposted the same retarded jpeg over and over. He filled up to 80% of the block space all with his stupid spam jpeg.

But now most of the network is filtering his garbage. And we are down to 5% spam now. I think it will be less than 2% in a month.

He can be a thrill, and eventually get rugged out by us. But he can't build business model on XBT, because he knew we would rug him, we already have.

His bullshot lasted basically a month or so. It's practically dead now. There are only a couple of miners who put his garbage in their blocks.

[nullius]

I'm not going to address all of that in one reply, it would take too long.

So, you write a long, rambling reply that’s irrelevant to what I said.  Yawn.

Imagine I come up with a new way to spam.

Don’t you dare call my method “spam”.  I specifically developed it for the purpose of embedding arbitrary data in routine financial transactions, with no extra on-chain bytes and no spam.

If you even knew how a Bitcoin (or chainforked altcoin) transaction is constructed, you’d realize that I’m technically not even storing any data on-chain!  The txid and wtxid are not stored anywhere in a transaction, nor in a block.

As shown in the prior threads on this, one of my motives is to store an encrypted backup of my passwords, PGP private keys, etc. on the Bitcoin blockchain—harmlessly riding on financial transactions that I’d make anyway, with no spam.

Of course, since my method is a covert channel, someone could also use it with a flood of innocent-looking transactions to store and transmit child porn.  Indeed, my method would be technically ideal for child porn.  It cannot be censored.  It cannot be filtered.  I can’t stop it.  You can’t stop it.  Luke can’t stop it.  God can’t stop it—or rather, He couldn’t even if He existed, which He doesn’t.  This is the meaning of crypto-anarchy.

Are your investors going to be comfortable with you doing this on XBT as they very well know we will be hostile to your spam, and filter you as we did with bitfiles.io ?

Be as hostile as you want.  You cannot censor my method.  It is undetectable.  Of course, it is detectable if someone later publishes the succinct key to retrieve a file—but by then, the content is buried in your blockchain.

Sure, it's always "possible" to spam any chain you want. But will erect your shop on a coon that is not friendly to spam? Or on a coin that is very friendly to spam?

If I ever build a business on my method, I will helpfully suggest that if anyone wants to do something silly—like, say, flooding a bunch of extra tx to store potentially felonious images on a blockchain—then they should use a shitcoin where the cost of tx fees is cheap, because the coin is cheap.  Lukecoin sounds good for this.

Yes, bitfiles did attack XBT. But that guy was at best an idiot and a throll who reposted the same retarded jpeg over and over. He filled up to 80% of the block space all with his stupid spam jpeg.

But now most of the network is filtering his garbage. And we are down to 5% spam now. I think it will be less than 2% in a month.

He can be a thrill, and eventually get rugged out by us. But he can't build business model on XBT, because he knew we would rug him, we already have.

His bullshot lasted basically a month or so. It's practically dead now. There are only a couple of miners who put his garbage in their blocks.

Who?  I’m not familiar with any of these personalities.  I’m not on social media.

Whoever that is, I suggest that they should contact me.  The email addresses in my PGP key are currently kinda broken, but forum PM is cool until I restore mail service.

I first had this idea about six years ago.  I can work on contract to build now the uncensorable covert channel protocol that I anyway want to build someday.  

But now most of the network is filtering

So, what will you do if/when Donald Trump issues an E.O. that decrees, “nullius is a cunt. ✔  And Meretrix is a self-proclaimed whore.  Miners shall freeze all assets that Chainalysis identifies as belonging to nullius and/or Meretrix.”

Luke is in U.S. jurisdiction.  Lukecoin has deployed a censorship system—which can be used for financial censorship just as well as for censoring cat photos/child porn/whatever.

Congratulations, you stupid motherforkers, you’ve built for Lukecoin the infrastructure that Mike Hearn envisioned in 2011.

Subject: Freezing BitCoin addresses by regulating miners

From time to time governments freeze the assets of people or organizations they believe to be criminal. [...] BitCoins apparent inability to do this will certainly make law enforcement uncomfortable with the concept.

But in reality, by the time BitCoin is large enough for this to be a real issue it will be quite possible to freeze bitcoins by requiring miners to exclude transactions from blacklisted addresses.

Methinks I should avoid holding any Lukecoin.  STRONG SELL.

[athanred]

Who?

If you mean bitfiles, then the code for all of that is here: https://github.com/bitfiles-io/bpub
And from that point, you can easily find the author: https://github.com/dev1ns

Also, this method of pushing data is far from being new. It worked long before BIP-110 was activated, see transaction bae7f2ef77b2083b6aff095583cc7562cdda9f12cc9d1381953352af75d60812.

And, as you can see, BIP-110 did nothing to block it. I guess blocking P2PK on consensus level was more important, than dealing with the actual spam.

Not to mention that if home miners will use DATUM, then they could bypass many relay-level filters, and push that kind of data anyway.

[nullius]

Who?

If you mean bitfiles, then the code for all of that is here: https://github.com/bitfiles-io/bpub
And from that point, you can easily find the author: https://github.com/dev1ns

Cool.  Bookmarked; will look later.

I’m totally serious:  I think it would be fun to spam Lukecoin.  I’d enjoy working with other creative minds to evade Lukefilters.  Could I get paid for it?  That fool Pepe got my attention, with words he may perhaps regret if he’s not just making shit up:

...make spam work... a lot of time and money.
a shitload of money
your investors
build your spam business

  🤑🤑🤑

Help me out here, athanred.  I’m not on social media, and I’m not part of the “crypto” club.  I never even heard of Ordinals before I returned to the forum.  Could I actually get investors with “a shitload of money” to pay me to spam Lukecoin?  Really?

I wanna make money—and I have no ethical qualms about spamming Lukecoin.  To the contrary, methinks that sad lil’ Lukechain needs to be prettied up into a work of art. 

On artistic grounds, I’d prefer to spam Lukecoin with porn.  Not child porn, as I don’t have any, but extreme hardcore XXX adult porn—especially gangbangs, BDSM, gay and lesbian porn, and blasphemous Satanic porn based on popular myths about the Black Mass (yeah, I saw this interesting video somewhere...).  There could be no more poignant way to express the idea:  “FUCK CENSORSHIP!”  But if it pays, I’m even amenable to spamming Lukecoin with non-sexual, non-financial data.

Besides my skills at creatively constructing blockchain transactions, I have some expertise in image file formats.  I’ll be coy about that for now—save to note that I’ve been meaning to ask forum staff a relevant rules question; if I soon may sneak something into my avatar, I don’t want to risk getting banned if or when it is discovered (or I reveal it).  The image I mentioned in the other thread I want to put into a Bitcoin OP_RETURN may have such features.  But if I were to make, or to collaborate in a blockchain art project to make Lukecoin useful, I’d go all-out to construct special files.  Because:

a shitload of money

🤑 🤑 🤑

[PepeLapiu]

And, as you can see, BIP-110 did nothing to block it. I guess blocking P2PK on consensus level was more important, than dealing with the actual spam.

BIP110 never had the imaginary goal of stopping all spam.
You are being stupid. if you are weeding your garden, and I point out to a single weed you missed, that doesn't mean your dailly weedings are useless.

There are infinate ways of spamming the chain. BIP110 never had your imaginary goal of stopping them all.

Not to mention that if home miners will use DATUM, then they could bypass many relay-level filters, and push that kind of data anyway.

You are correct, filters don't prevent any miner from spamming the network. But that is still ignoring how filters work.

When my node filters out a transaction it just means that I don't" add it to my mempool, and I don't relay it to other nodes. That doesn't stop you from sending your spam directly to the miner.

But if the miner puts your spam in his block, and if a significant number of nodes ate filtering that transaction, the block will take considerably longer to propagate through the network, and the miner could lose his block reward to an other miner whose block propagates faster because it doesn't contain spam.

But in the spam chain centralized miners with the help of LibreRelay node specificly designed to push more spam on chain, filters become innefective.

They tell you filters don't work but they never tell you why. And the reason why filters don't work is because of Peter Todd's LibreRelay spamware and miner cebtralisation around what I call the LivreRelay cartel.

The problem witg people like you is that if I don't pull out all the weeds in my garden, you claim I am wasting my time.

If the cat doesn't kill all the mice in my barn, you claim the cat is not doing it's job even if he killed 99% of the mice.

And if my anti-spam measures allow just one piece of spam to get in, you wave that off as completely useless for some reason.

[PepeLapiu]

You grossly misrepresent the issue of spam and the problem with child porn.

Before core 30 every node validated, verified, relayed, and stored only monetary transactions. With the exception of 83 B op_return.

Before core 30, only monetary txs were accepted into the chain. This is why spammers had to cheat with fake pubkeys, fake scriphash, fake op_code, fake signatures, and dust amounts. Because they had to make sure the network would recognize their garbage as legit monetary transactions.

Yes, you could always use a dozen fake pubkeys to embed a child poem jpeg. But before core 30, the system would recognize your spam as monetary transactions.

It's only with core 30 that spam became an officially supported use case of bitcoin. Now your core 30 node sees a large file stored in op_return and it says "This is not a monetary tx, this is obviously some file and I must mempool it, I must relay it, and I must accept in on my chain"

[nullius]

I try to teach it.  It does not want to learn.

PepeLapiu (u=2825075), you were already warned against multi-posting (multiple consecutive posts by the same account in the same thread within 24 hours).  A moderator already fixed your previous multi-post, by merging your posts.  Now, you did it again.

I now accuse you of intentionally violating forum rules.

You grossly misrepresent the issue of spam and the problem with child porn.

Before core 30 every node validated, verified, relayed, and stored only monetary transactions. With the exception of 83 B op_return.

Before core 30, only monetary txs were accepted into the chain. This is why spammers had to cheat with fake pubkeys, fake scriphash, fake op_code, fake signatures, and dust amounts. Because they had to make sure the network would recognize their garbage as legit monetary transactions.

Yes, you could always use a dozen fake pubkeys to embed a child poem jpeg. But before core 30, the system would recognize your spam as monetary transactions.

You grossly misrepresent the issue of spam and the problem with unspendable UTXOs.

You say, “the system would recognize your spam as monetary transactions”, as if that’s a good thing.  No, it’s a very bad thing!  You say “financial transactions” as if it’s a religious phrase blessing spam with virtue.  WTF!?

Fake financial transactions put spam into the UTXO set forever and forever, thus bloating the UTXO set size.  That’s a resource burden on nodes—a DOS attack on nodes!—thus leading to fewer nodes, and P2P network centralization.

Data in OP_RETURN outputs waste some disk space of non-pruned nodes.  And that’s it.  That’s the only long-term effect.  OP_RETURN does not touch the UTXO set.  Pruned nodes will forget about spam in OP_RETURN, so it doesn’t even waste their disk space.  The effect of a picture or a movie in OP_RETURN on pruned nodes is negligible—not even worth worrying about, though I am very worried about unbounded blockchain growth for non-pruned nodes.

Either you’re too stupid to understand what the UTXO set is and why it’s important, or you’re intentionally lying to spread technical misinformation.

Note:  If anyone wants to pay me “a shitload of money” to spam Lukecoin, I’ll be happy to spam the LukeUTXO set as much as I can.  Yes, that’s a malicious DOS attack on Lukecoin nodes.  But hey, you’ll be happy that I can’t stuff whole files into OP_RETURN. 


On the importance of protecting the UTXO set from spam

I’m not just saying this now.  I’m not just saying it to support Core.  I’m not just saying this in the aftermath of the massive UTXO set spam attack, which caused Core to remove the OP_RETURN limit for harm reduction.

A forum search on all words utxo set op_return by author nullius brings up the following old posts.  I was mostly advocating against (ab)use of the 1BitcoinEater... address—which does NOT “burn” funds, but keeps them as unspendable UTXOs.  At the time when I made the below-quoted posts, embedding images in the blockchain was not yet popular (even though it had been done for years).

As a cult sacrifice in memory of Lauda, I have irrevocably destroyed one satoshi.  To keep the UTXO set tidy, I used OP_RETURN with a 1 sat value and a message to be seen by all auditors of Bitcoin’s monetary supply.  The transaction is also a puzzle, with a prize...

😼
Cult of Lauda
Sacred Sacrificial txid:
000000000fdf0c619cd8e0d512c7e2c0da5a5808e60f12f1e0d01522d2986a51

One zero nibble for each of Kitty’s nine lives!

Oh, by the way:  Thanks to others’ generosity, the puzzle advertised in my signature now has a prize balance of...

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The puzzle’s current balance, at the time of this writing:

😸 0.03141592 BTC 😼

(Only 0.001 BTC was deposited by me.)

Thanks for the guide.
However, I don't get how it is different from sending the dust to 1BitcoinEater[intentionally cut off by nullius]

The difference is the OP_RETURN prevents the transaction from being kept in the UTXO set forever. Though I guess if you can get the output amount to exactly 0, it might have the same effect.

Yes.  Thank you.

If you want to destroy bitcoins, please use OP_RETURN instead of a burn address!  The use of burn addresses permanently spams the UTXO set, forever imposing a burden on every full node (including pruned nodes!).  It is harmful and irresponsible.  Burn addresses should never be used for any reason.

Nooooooo!  Satoshi would not spam the UTXO set.

PSA:  Never use burn addresses!  They are bad for Bitcoin, bad for nodes, bad for scalability.  If you want to destroy bitcoins, place them in the amount field of an OP_RETURN output.  That is unspendable, according to consensus rules; thus, the output is pruned from the UTXO set.  Auditors of Bitcoin’s supply typically also subtract OP_RETURN amounts from Bitcoin’s supply cap.

The UTXO set size is one of Bitcoin’s biggest scalability issues (so to speak).  Please don’t make it worse by polluting the UTXO set with bloat that nodes will need to track forever and forever.  Be environmentally responsible!

[athanred]

to pay me to spam Lukecoin?

If you had any coins, before they forked, and they were never moved, then you have them on BIP-110 chain, too. For example:

Your Core coins: https://mempool.space/address/bc1qt2mdkehmphggajer3ur3g8l754scj4fdrmw3rn
Your BIP-110 coins: https://mempool.guide/address/bc1qt2mdkehmphggajer3ur3g8l754scj4fdrmw3rn

Of course, some transactions were replayed, and some of them were not. But by just checking your addresses, you can quite easily check your balance on their chain. Also, to split the coins, all you need, is using anything they pointlessly blocked, for example P2PK. Or just use any splitted coin as your input, and then the rest will also split. My example, linked already multiple times: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5590674.msg67025339#msg67025339

Also, if some coins are not yet splitted between Core and BIP-110, then you can accidentally get some BIP-110 coins, by just doing Core transactions. It is funny to sell for example some BIP-110 coins, and receive a few thousands of satoshis on both chains. Or to buy some Core coins, and suddenly getting the same amount of BIP-110 coins, because of transaction replay.

I’d prefer to spam Lukecoin with porn.

It was already done, some NSFW images are pushed to their chain through bitfiles.

Edit:

Satoshi would not spam the UTXO set.

Then, what do you think about this?

I like Hal Finney's idea for user-friendly timestamping.  Convert the hash of a file to a bitcoin address and send 0.01 to it:

I thought of a simple way to implement the timestamp concept I mentioned above. Run sha1sum on the file you want to timestamp. Convert the result to a Bitcoin address, such as via http://blockexplorer.com/q/hashtoaddress . Then send a small payment to that address.

The money will be lost forever, as there is no way to spend it further, but the timestamp Bitcoin address will remain in the block chain as a record of the file's existence.

I understand that this is arguably not a good use of the Bitcoin distributed database, but nothing stops people from doing this so we should be aware that it may be done.