Can a regular player actually win a casino race or is it just for whales?

[Hatchy]

Almost every operator (maybe even everyone of them) has some kind of race with leaderboard now: weekly, monthly, whatever with '$100k up for grabs'. and in every 
And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Sometimes, you just have to imagine the kind of people who make it onto those leaderboards. It's not even worth spending so much money or time trying to reach the top. I haven't really seen anyone win those races, so I can't say it's impossible, but it might be quite rare. The problem is that some casinos may not be fair enough to allow regular players to top the leaderboard. Even then, you might not be able to compete if you're a low-risk player. There are other types of leaderboard races you can participate in. You don't have to compete in the same race as everyone else. Just play within your limits and only risk what you can afford to lose.

[IjawMan]

^^

I will prefer a higher multiplier race, at lest that will be better for my wager than banking on higher stakes without any guarantee on my stake, that is where a lot of bettors get it all wrong,

Betting is uncertain so why put in so much into it when you are not sure the bet will actually come out the way you anticipated,  I totally agree with the same situation where a $1 bet could actually compete with a $1000.

[DanWalker]

Almost every operator (maybe even everyone of them) has some kind of race with leaderboard now: weekly, monthly, whatever with '$100k up for grabs'. and in every leaderboard, the top 10 have wagered amounts ... i can't wager in my life.

These seem like totally mess to me. But then I have seen many gambler actually enjoy playing in wager based leaderboard. You know, those who deposit most and place spin worth thousands will rank highest. It seems to me that skill and luck counts for nothing here. Here the only thing that determine value is how fat your bankroll is.

Tbh, my winning record on leaderboard is very limited. Every time I've participated in leaderboard challenge, mostly I've just over bet and ending up with zero balance.

[Muba20]

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Usually, these types of prizes are given to encourage gamblers to gamble more and spend more money on that platform. If a gambler who has placed only a small amount of bets gets such a big reward, then even if he gets big reward, the gambling platforms will not be able to make profit. Because when a competition is held based on placing a large amount of bets, the gambling platform makes good profit. Of the 3 options you mentioned, random raffles seem more logical to me as a gambler, as this allows even an average gambler to dream of winning big. I think all three mentioned are good opportunities for gamblers, but it is also true that if such opportunities are given to whales, then gambling platforms will benefit more.

[FirmWars]

rather see a leaderboard based on the highest multiplier or something where a $1 bet could actually compete with a $1000 one.

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

All of them are fair but which one of them is gives better chance of winning? I think it's random raffle but other gamblers who have won multiplayer race and wager based  would have different opinion if they have not win in raffle the way they won the other bonus. Depending on the terms and condition of these promotions, any player can win it but if it's subject to difficult requirements, not every type of gamblers will want to give it a try.

[Yorubek]

We have to avoid the competitive gambling mentality for entertainment or we will be completely destroyed. I like to gamble with a small amount of money within my means, I do not see any point in gambling with excessive risks and beyond my means. There are many people who waste the amount of money they cost on gambling, which is much more than some people earn in a year. In fact, the goal and purpose of every person is not the same. If I had that much money, I would definitely invest it in a reliable place, I would never waste a big amount on gambling, I would gamble with a small amount for entertainment.

[hedgeh0g]

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Usually, these types of prizes are given to encourage gamblers to gamble more and spend more money on that platform. If a gambler who has placed only a small amount of bets gets such a big reward, then even if he gets big reward, the gambling platforms will not be able to make profit. Because when a competition is held based on placing a large amount of bets, the gambling platform makes good profit. Of the 3 options you mentioned, random raffles seem more logical to me as a gambler, as this allows even an average gambler to dream of winning big. I think all three mentioned are good opportunities for gamblers, but it is also true that if such opportunities are given to whales, then gambling platforms will benefit more.

Whales, of course, are aiming for a jackpot that would recoup their previous investments and losses. Ultimately, however, it all comes down to the fact that casinos are a game of chance, while it’s certainly difficult for small-scale players to win, that doesn’t mean it’s impossible. Personally, casinos don’t really appeal to me these days. I don’t feel like I have any kind of edge there so I’d much rather play poker or place bets, which I find far more interesting. In any case, there are always plenty of people looking to try their luck every single day, and it doesn’t matter to them at all that they aren’t "whales."

[Fortify]

Almost every operator (maybe even everyone of them) has some kind of race with leaderboard now: weekly, monthly, whatever with '$100k up for grabs'. and in every leaderboard, the top 10 have wagered amounts ... i can't wager in my life.

Whats even the point for regular players?

Most races are based on total wagering volume. which basically means whoever has the biggest bankroll gets the best chance at winning. and if you wanna climb higher you gotta keep betting more and more...

Personally i'd rather see a leaderboard based on the highest multiplier or something where a $1 bet could actually compete with a $1000 one.

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

These leaderboards are definitely a "secondary benefit" that can be mastered by Whales. While most people are scrambling around in the hundreds or low thousands of dollars when betting, these people have no quarms dropping tens or even hundreds of thousands in bets. They help keep liquidity in the casino so get a lot of special treatment. Indirectly because of the scale of bets they're playing, it almost defaults them to the top of leaderboards and they get the associated perks. There are whales that know how to play the game and maximize their returns while casinos will tolerate them because occasionally they have bad runs or steadily leak small percentages of big amounts over time. Combined with their VIP perks, they get substantial "cashback" each month.

[Crypto_Timothy]

What I can say here is this, the competition is fun to do but it takes more to achieve and if you know that you can not meet up with the water conditions, do not bother because it is financially inclusive. Bet and play according to your capacity as gambling is about fun and that fun is what keeps the game going on. People who participates in such  are those who are financially buoyant to run the race to the top-level to get some rewards for their efforts.

Yea, if you know you cannot make it financially, there is no reason to overload yourself or try to impress anyone, you can still stick to what you know and just gamble normally afterall these operators bring out these games and competition as a way to keep more gamblers hooked outside the normal casino games and of course a way to get more money from players with reawards and bonuses as a result of winning but now, the chances of winning are always in the wind. So yes, if you know thats not for you especially financially, then it will be best not to put body at all.

[Homemade-IQ]

Life has never been fair to the poor, so I understand why those with higher gambling budget wins things like this, that depends on higher numbers.

These casino are setting up things like this to entice those with a higher gambling budget to compete, not those that gambles with lower budgets, because if you think that you stands a chance of winning and you goes ahead with the plan to compete, you may lose a lot of money and may still not wins it, so it's not a wise decision to engage in such competition when you are a gambler with poor budget.

[Alphakilo]

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Usually, these types of prizes are given to encourage gamblers to gamble more and spend more money on that platform. If a gambler who has placed only a small amount of bets gets such a big reward, then even if he gets big reward, the gambling platforms will not be able to make profit. Because when a competition is held based on placing a large amount of bets, the gambling platform makes good profit. Of the 3 options you mentioned, random raffles seem more logical to me as a gambler, as this allows even an average gambler to dream of winning big. I think all three mentioned are good opportunities for gamblers, but it is also true that if such opportunities are given to whales, then gambling platforms will benefit more.

In essence the gambling platform benefits more from whales but restrict opportunities to just about any low or average bettor.
So it's basically that most platforms stick to pure volume races or multiplier formats where bets are capped and it's left for the gambler to know which suits them best and opt for it instead of wasting their time trying to meet up or waste more capital than they can afford to lose.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Personally i'd rather see a leaderboard based on the highest multiplier or something where a $1 bet could actually compete with a $1000 one.

This is good and basically more fair on the regular gamblers as this will allow them the chance to compete even for the jackpot in the casino's race, but unfortunately, a highest multiplier based race does not profit the casino as much as the wager based race does, this is why the wager based race is way more common amongst casinos.
And like i believe we all know, casinos are running a serious business and they are all about making money, they don't run a platform where people are given the opportunity to win life changing money almost for free.

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Highest multiplier, random raffles draws are more fair, like i explained above, this two options or methods will give even the smallest wager amount the opportunity of winning the highest reward, but this is at the detriment of the profit the casino would have made from the wager based method of a leaderboard race.

[abel1337]

Wagering tournaments are designed like that, of course it is for the sake of casino and they are targeting whales as the potential customers who will join the race. Bigger rewards mean bigger spending of course. Casino is a business and whales are the primary customers that are giving them profits so no wonder why they prefer wager races rather than multiplier races. They don't want you to spend the minimum to win the highest prize 

As an ordinary gambler, we don't have a chance of chasing those top leaderboard spots. The bankroll we have is not enough to compete for the highest position though there's a chance that we can get a spot on lower positions if we stay long enough with our measly small capital compared to the whales. I personally don't join these leaderboards because I know I don't stand a chance and I don't like forcing myself to wager just to finish a race or a bonus.

[CryptoBuds]

Personally i'd rather see a leaderboard based on the highest multiplier or something where a $1 bet could actually compete with a $1000 one.

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Yes any player with large bankroll can keep wagering same money over and over to stay ahead on leaderboard.

But, I wouldn't call the highest multiplier entirely fair. Hmm, there's a chance to beat $1K bet with $1 bet. But that will depend to large extent on luck and volatility. And if casino imposes restriction regarding minimum bet, eligible game or specific game provider then advantage for smaller player will once again be limited.

So, to me random raffle is relatively more inclusive.

[AmaGold70]

Life is not about competition. There are some things that are not worth completing for. I do not have the money many people are using to gamble, bity if I have the money, I will use most all of it for something else like holding bitcoin, but just use small amount of money to gamble. I have not participated in anything like it before. On Stake, I am still unable to rank up to the next rank, no to talk of leaderboard.

I would say all hands are not equal, and some of this people who opt to appear in leadership board actually have the money for for high wagering. However gambling is risky, and high wagering may not even give you the desired result. Considering how risky gambling is every gambler should always maintain responsibility because every casino platform deploys a system that favours them most. However it would have been better if the leadership board is a product of random selection rather than focusing on high stakes alone to make up the leadership board, and this singular reason automatically make it impossible for small players not to gain access to the leadership board.

[Odohu]

I have seen both wager-based contest and multiplier-based contest and each depends on what the casino wants to achieve. If they want to encourage more people to participate, they go for that which is based on highest multiplier but if they want to know the strengths of their users,  the use the option that is based on highest wager. It is really not up to that gambler to decide which is fair or not, that decision is exclusively reserved for the casino.

[coinlary]

Personally i'd rather see a leaderboard based on the highest multiplier or something where a $1 bet could actually compete with a $1000 one.

You're  very funny  . They are obviously designed for the whales to compete and spend more while still aiming for some grabs. The emphasis is on spend more else the whole point of the leader doesn't really give them that much profit.

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Wager for the Casino, the others are just to give everyone equal chance of winning so far it stays fair but doesn't fetch that much profit for the Casino.

[Botnake]

Life is not about competition. There are some things that are not worth completing for. I do not have the money many people are using to gamble, bity if I have the money, I will use most all of it for something else like holding bitcoin, but just use small amount of money to gamble. I have not participated in anything like it before. On Stake, I am still unable to rank up to the next rank, no to talk of leaderboard.

I think it matters on your life's priorities. Some may see gambling as their top priority especially if they have been winning consistently, while others do not mind if they can gamble or not, since its not their top priority and its not making them profitable either.

However, for me, even if I have multiple flows of income, I won't still be gambling with huge amount of money. Only the casino will benefit the most, not the gambler itself. I would rather maximize my investment too and start adding more assets in my portfolio.

[GxSTxV]

Almost every operator (maybe even everyone of them) has some kind of race with leaderboard now: weekly, monthly, whatever with '$100k up for grabs'. and in every leaderboard, the top 10 have wagered amounts ... i can't wager in my life.

Whats even the point for regular players?

Most races are based on total wagering volume. which basically means whoever has the biggest bankroll gets the best chance at winning. and if you wanna climb higher you gotta keep betting more and more...

Personally i'd rather see a leaderboard based on the highest multiplier or something where a $1 bet could actually compete with a $1000 one.

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Gambling on a casino without tournament and raffles is just less fun for us compared to the filled platforms with a combination between both offers. Fairness in these situations is dependent upon what’s available on the platform. If it’s only the wager based tournaments, then simply whales will take control over, especially when they offer generous rewards, imagine a 20k prize without any conditions for withdrawal, so many whales are likely to compete with thousands to millions of wager.

While in the other side, random raffles without conditions like receiving multiple cards or points to boost your chances upon your wagering in the casino, and that makes it hard for low stake players. Speaking about highest multiplier or competition for the first player to achieve a certain multiplier, I find it cool as well.

[alani123]

I've won races before on primedice. There was a period the side still had its promotional activitis on-site going while there was close to zero off-site promotion so the traffic had kind of weaned off. It was a good opportunity to chase the prizes.

But also the market has had many ups and downs and when primedice had its races still on there certainly weren't as many people doing crypto gambling as there are now.

The moral of the story is, only try it if you can afford it. Always expect the loss and always expect to be sniped by a bot last minute. But if you were gonna gamble that money anyway, chasing a race is better than playing for no extra prizes.