Can a regular player actually win a casino race or is it just for whales?

[knuckey]

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Casinos are deliberately designed to allow them to have large capital, as they profit significantly more from whales. If we're talking about fairer options, I'd choose random draws, as everyone has a chance to win. Ultimately, it's the whales who have the best chance, as lottery systems typically require more tickets. My advice is to not think about it; it's better to have fun with the money you have.

[lombok]

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Casinos are deliberately designed to allow them to have large capital, as they profit significantly more from whales. If we're talking about fairer options, I'd choose random draws, as everyone has a chance to win. Ultimately, it's the whales who have the best chance, as lottery systems typically require more tickets. My advice is to not think about it; it's better to have fun with the money you have.

Among all the three methods, the easiest to justify is random drawing because each ticket has an equal probability of being picked. The catch is that the tickets will be picked among those that have been placed as bets, which implies that the players that bet more automatically increase their chances. The leaderboard is definitely biased, but the race for the maximum multiplier offers the lucky players a chance. It is the only case where the game is completely fair and the playing conditions are the same for everybody based on the openly stated rules of the game. Just have fun with your money and close the game happily without any worries.

[Sandra_hakeem]

Personally i'd rather see a leaderboard based on the highest multiplier or something where a $1 bet could actually compete with a $1000 one.

I can't even believe you saw nothing wrong with having these type of thoughts in your head, let alone making a post to discuss your concern. If a $1 bettor also has an edge to compete for the top spots on the leaderboards, what's the whole point of the wales wagering thousands of dollars to achieve the same result?

If the casinos operate like this, they'll go broke in an instance because nobody would have a need to stake bigger than the average bettor. That's bad business arrangement if you ask me.

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Random raffles or higher multiplier races obviously, but you're not going to get that because any promotion that doesn't generate volume (of bets) or cutdown financial liabilities equals a huge loss to the company.

[uneng]

I already managed to rank on daily leaderboard of a casino, and I'm not a whale. Therefore, it's possible, but I think the point is that as an average gambler you can't do this often, while a whale can. At same time, it doesn't mean it's going to be profitable for whales, because they may have the advantage of wagering higher amounts of money in shorter time periods, but this advantage also comes with the disadvantage of risking to lose too much money at once.

[Aanuoluwatofunmi]

An ordinary man can be black and decide to take the lead to win items he made in gambling; this is not about being poor or rich, but instead it is all about our individual abilities and how well positioned we are in the game we are playing. Winning in a casino race is a determinant of The Gambler and how it could be versatile in taking advantage of conditions around it for our winning.

[o48o]

Almost every operator (maybe even everyone of them) has some kind of race with leaderboard now: weekly, monthly, whatever with '$100k up for grabs'. and in every leaderboard, the top 10 have wagered amounts ... i can't wager in my life.

Whats even the point for regular players?

Most races are based on total wagering volume. which basically means whoever has the biggest bankroll gets the best chance at winning. and if you wanna climb higher you gotta keep betting more and more...

Personally i'd rather see a leaderboard based on the highest multiplier or something where a $1 bet could actually compete with a $1000 one.

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

I understand the need to be included, but this isn't about you or fairness like most things and people who have enough money would win them without an effort.

If you want to participate on raffles, no one is stopping you, but even in those, it's your ticket against zillion of others. And even in them, rich folks could just buy worth more tickets for every raffle then your rent is.

And from the point of view of any casino, they obviously want to reward people who are able to provide that volume. Would it be better if it wasn't a public contest?

[Chibit01]

highest multiplier races sound way more fun tbh. at least a small bet could actually compete

When I go to the games and rounds section of the forum, seeing multipliers context, it always interests me and I see it as the best way to bring the best on players other than putting a context where your size of pocket decides if you will win or not, and such the highest multipliers contest for me will always be most fun since my $1-$10 can still make me a winner against someone who use $100.

[Sonia_123]

Almost every operator (maybe even everyone of them) has some kind of race with leaderboard now: weekly, monthly, whatever with '$100k up for grabs'. and in every leaderboard, the top 10 have wagered amounts ... i can't wager in my life.

Whats even the point for regular players?

Most races are based on total wagering volume. which basically means whoever has the biggest bankroll gets the best chance at winning. and if you wanna climb higher you gotta keep betting more and more...

Personally i'd rather see a leaderboard based on the highest multiplier or something where a $1 bet could actually compete with a $1000 one.

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

I will prefer to use that money to invest in bitcoin instead of chasing the position of a leaderboard which will not even come through, gambling with the little I have without being addicted but for entertainment is my focus.

Gamble with what you can afford to lose because going for leaderboard will cost you more losses and since you can't do it avoid it so that you don't get tempted and be addicted to gambling in other to get there and be disappointed.

[Josefjix]

highest multiplier races sound way more fun tbh. at least a small bet could actually compete

Small bet completes but never win anything, you cannot and will never even be included into the top ten as well, if there is even compensation for those who could reach top 15, you may not even be included. I have tried it twice in Yeet leaderboard competitions and never included in any winnings at all.

You have to be strategic when tackling leaderboard competitions, some big whales doesn't start when others are starting, towards ending of the competition they come in and move everyone towards down level. Leaderboard are for whales.

[Floxynice]

Almost every operator (maybe even everyone of them) has some kind of race with leaderboard now: weekly, monthly, whatever with '$100k up for grabs'. and in every leaderboard, the top 10 have wagered amounts ... i can't wager in my life.

Whats even the point for regular players?

Most races are based on total wagering volume. which basically means whoever has the biggest bankroll gets the best chance at winning. and if you wanna climb higher you gotta keep betting more and more...

Personally i'd rather see a leaderboard based on the highest multiplier or something where a $1 bet could actually compete with a $1000 one.

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

Gambling generally depends on luck, which is why I am usually not excited about joining competitions that require me to increase my betting volume or wager more to have a higher chance of winning. I don't bow to such pressure or encourage games that make people spend or gamble more to qualify or have higher chances of winning. I have never participated in such a race. None of the race options seem totally fair to me. I belong to the group that wants gamblers to gamble at their own affordable pace without any competition.

[alegotardo]

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

I would add a fourth possibility: an ROI based competition, based on the % of return that each player manages to achieve, regardless of how much they bet... an example: if someone bet $10 and ends up with a $30 return, they will have an ROI of 200%, which is higher than someone who bet $1,000 and ended up with $2,000.

But for this, some rules would have to be created, such as setting minimum numbers of bets, as well as rules against isolated results to prevent a single "lucky" bet from determining the winner... but other than that, it is something interesting because it allows results to be compared regardless of each person's financial situation.

[Hispo]

And what do you think is more fair - wager-based leaderboards, random raffles or highest multiplier races?

I would add a fourth possibility: an ROI based competition, based on the % of return that each player manages to achieve, regardless of how much they bet... an example: if someone bet $10 and ends up with a $30 return, they will have an ROI of 200%, which is higher than someone who bet $1,000 and ended up with $2,000.

But for this, some rules would have to be created, such as setting minimum numbers of bets, as well as rules against isolated results to prevent a single "lucky" bet from determining the winner... but other than that, it is something interesting because it allows results to be compared regardless of each person's financial situation.

It may sound interesting and even fairer at first glance when comes to implementing some kind of different race or competition on casinos, but let us be honest, this would not be as beneficial as it sounds for casinos and bookies.
It would mean people would not need to have a significant volume or risk much money in order to get prizes from the administration of the casino, which is the opposite of what the house actually wants.

If you are part of the administration of a casino, you will want people to have as much gambling volume as possible, this kind of competition actually does not help much in that regard, if you analyze it from the perspective of the business and not from the perspective of a small gambler.

[Julien_Olynpic]

It's more profitable for the casino itself to maintain a leaderboard based on the total bets. Casinos are businesses, not charities, so marketing is crucial, as is the fact that they're interested in the highest and most irrational bets. This means a virtually guaranteed profit. Players who bet $1, no matter what multipliers they use, are just $1 players. They're like sparrows at a sidewalk cafe trying to steal crumbs from the table, lol.

[yhiaali3]

Honestly, I don't care whether I appear on the leaderboard or not. There are much more important things to do, and if I had enough money, I wouldn't spend it gambling to get on the leaderboard.

Leaderboards are merely a lure used by casinos to entice players to strive with all their might investing both their money and time to compete for a spot on the leaderboard but in the end they may never even reach it, leaving their efforts and money wasted for nothing.

[GamblingGodsHQ]

honestly wager based races are mostly built for big bankrolls, so for a small player the real value is just whatever you'd have played anyway. before chasing one, check how the leaderboard counts wagering and whether there's a minimum bet or game restrictions, because some only count certain games. i'd treat any race prize as a bonus and never raise your stakes to climb, the raffle style ones are the only ones where a small player has a fair shot.

[vs2014]

I think wager based leaderboards are never build for ordinary players cause it often encourage and prioritize players with bigger budgets what is the main purpose of a casino. It's illogical if someone wanna win this race by wagering little amount. Multiplier competitions can be best approach for ordinary players who wanna win high. Although casino may set some rules considering same amount bets or bets with minimum. Only random raffles justice for everyone where people gets a chance to win based on luck

[angrybirdy]

I already managed to rank on daily leaderboard of a casino, and I'm not a whale. Therefore, it's possible, but I think the point is that as an average gambler you can't do this often, while a whale can. At same time, it doesn't mean it's going to be profitable for whales, because they may have the advantage of wagering higher amounts of money in shorter time periods, but this advantage also comes with the disadvantage of risking to lose too much money at once.

Wow, that's great! you know, the ability to earn a rank place on the daily leaderboard while not being a whale is a great feat i guess, and that clearly means that there is still hope for the average player like us, however, being consistent and earning this place every single day while having a low budget may be quite difficult... and that's because it all depends on luck, timing and willingness to take the risks. even whales cannot win always because they have more to lose along with the potential for larger wins. in any case, getting a good rank on the leaderboard does not necessarily mean making profits too...

[Gost ms]

I already managed to rank on daily leaderboard of a casino, and I'm not a whale. Therefore, it's possible, but I think the point is that as an average gambler you can't do this often, while a whale can. At same time, it doesn't mean it's going to be profitable for whales, because they may have the advantage of wagering higher amounts of money in shorter time periods, but this advantage also comes with the disadvantage of risking to lose too much money at once.

Wow, that's great! you know, the ability to earn a rank place on the daily leaderboard while not being a whale is a great feat i guess, and that clearly means that there is still hope for the average player like us, however, being consistent and earning this place every single day while having a low budget may be quite difficult... and that's because it all depends on luck, timing and willingness to take the risks. even whales cannot win always because they have more to lose along with the potential for larger wins. in any case, getting a good rank on the leaderboard does not necessarily mean making profits too...

Yes, I completely agree with you. There are some people who spend a lot of money to get on the leaderboard and end up losing money at the last minute. Success should be measured not by the results of the leaderboard but by how much profit is made. It is a better decision to play according to your financial position every time. Luck is not with us every day and we will suddenly be on top of the leaderboard one day, so it is not like we will be on the leaderboard the same way every day.

[lombok]

Yes, I completely agree with you. There are some people who spend a lot of money to get on the leaderboard and end up losing money at the last minute. Success should be measured not by the results of the leaderboard but by how much profit is made. It is a better decision to play according to your financial position every time. Luck is not with us every day and we will suddenly be on top of the leaderboard one day, so it is not like we will be on the leaderboard the same way every day.

Competing for leading positions frequently makes ignore the main aim of controlling their finances. Names of the winners are just ornament that vanishes after the end of the game, while the actual balance rules everything. Spending substantial amounts of money for temporary fame only weakens on personal financial position. The true winner can be easily recognized by the profit that he or she achieves, not by the applause from the audience. Sticking to the limits of personal finance has turned out to be much more helpful than trying to compete blindly. Sweet success always comes to those who can control themselves.

[Obulis]

 There's no point competing about almost everything not to talk of gambling. Allowing your self to having that feeling of trying to levelup/competition like other in the gambling world will likely trigger addiction or give room for addiction and we all know the effects of gambling addiction. Gamble as much as you can afford to lose, gamble according to your present ability, don't force yourself to gamble more than usual, if there's anything like over discretionary funds (funds that's over discretionary), that's what should be used in gambling not putting yourself into competition.