Do bookmakers buy information from sports leagues?

[Mrbluntzy]

The reason why I brought up this, is because of an argument between some bettors today. According to the claim of one of them, betting has not been very favorable to him for some weeks and he is blaming it on the sportbook and football Leagues, he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

What cross my mind in that argument is that, most bettors do not bother to do proper analysis before bettors on a game, there are a lot of players who are just very desperate to make money and they don't bother to research for informations before betting on a team. I argued that the bookies get the same information that bettors get because all necessary information are published in different news site. But I believe some of us here are more experienced in sports, do you think bookies buy information from leagues?

[Ronsbit]

At first which type of information are they even arguing about because every information about a game is out there on the public consumption or is there any other information separate from the general sports activities and information we don't know that is special and specifically only for some people? Maybe if they had specified the type of information they in their argument then we could have known but they didn't maybe they could step up their research properly before betting on a game if that is their bone of contention.

[Royal Cap]

It is true that bookies can do good analysis. Because they have an experienced analytical team. And that is why they get good odds. But that does not mean that they fix all the matches. Yes fixing can happen in some small leagues, but in the case of big leagues, I do not think there is any opportunity to smuggle such information. Because there are not just a few thousand viewers watching live but millions of viewers watching the same match. So if there is any manipulation there, it will be caught very easily. And with the help of AI, they can confirm their house edge well in advance.

 But ordinary bettors cannot analyze so accurately, moreover, the odds of the game may change at different times of the match for various reasons. As a result, the bettor may not win.

[Pikiboy]

What cross my mind in that argument is that, most bettors do not bother to do proper analysis before bettors on a game, there are a lot of players who are just very desperate to make money and they don't bother to research for informations before betting on a team. I argued that the bookies get the same information that bettors get because all necessary information are published in different news site. But I believe some of us here are more experienced in sports, do you think bookies buy information from leagues?

I wouldn't have to argue about this because I do not think leaguea will be that too open to give casinos information about what to happen on their matches. Don't you think if that information are being released just like that they will also go to another gambling site to place bet based on the information that is issued to them. Again, I do not know how gamble site can afford to pay the leagues to release such information to them, gambling site might be getting their information through news channel and article that is published out there.

[Sim_card]

Didn't your friend observed that sometimes, these bookmakers are also wrong in their predictions. Bookmakers will always be ahead of a single bettor because they are more than one person who comes together to analyse the game and give odds after coming to a proper conclusion amongst themselves. Can you see where two heads are better than one. Every information about a match to be played is public. Maybe, you friend don't know this.

[ralle14]

I doubt it, because if they can afford to buy so much information they wouldn't worry about having a small limit on some leagues. The bookies don't care much if they're late with the news or updates, the original line can still fail, and they're still the winners here no matter what.

They're not afraid to undervalue their lines, and if they make a slight mistake, they'll use that to improve their accuracy until they can catch up, and it's why finding value in the middle or later part of the season can be a struggle for some bettors.

[DanWalker]

According to the claim of one of them, betting has not been very favorable to him for some weeks and he is blaming it on the sportbook and football Leagues, he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

LOL! logic that guy is conveying that sport league sell inside info, sounds like script of some Hollywood conspiracy movie.
Shifting blame for their own loss onto others and pointing finger at bookie to escape accountability, is very common practice among bettor we know.
that's a totally lame excuse!

Data they possess is also available to analyst like us through various public news site, injury update etc. Difference lies in proper research and bankroll management. For those who desperately try to get rich overnight, such loss are inevitable.

Of course, bookies edge comes from their mathematical model and massive data processing capacity. Not from some James Bond style secret source of information.

[Odusko]

The reason why I brought up this, is because of an argument between some bettors today. According to the claim of one of them, betting has not been very favorable to him for some weeks and he is blaming it on the sportbook and football Leagues, he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

What cross my mind in that argument is that, most bettors do not bother to do proper analysis before bettors on a game, there are a lot of players who are just very desperate to make money and they don't bother to research for informations before betting on a team. I argued that the bookies get the same information that bettors get because all necessary information are published in different news site. But I believe some of us here are more experienced in sports, do you think bookies buy information from leagues?

This assumption can come in both ways, sport bettors often times make attempts to speculated such assumptions when the game becomes unfavorable for them, some of them even go as far as to accuse some club's of being bought over by gambling sites, this is why sometimes club's don't publicly accept endorsement deals from casinos and other big predictions companies.

[Kelvinid]

I think it is not a secret that bookies buy information from sports leagues but they do not do it the illegal way like how we assumed it. They don't go direct to the leagues but they find first those official and reliable data providers and ask for internal and valid information. Big and legal bookmakers even paid millions of dollar to do that so that they can adjust early their odds before the public does.

This is how a bookmaker works. This is part of their market strategy, otherwise, if they don't do this, they might be out in the market earlier than expected.

[Churchillvv]

A grieved gambler can say anything just to push the blame away from their selves and I guess this is one of them. Op of course there is a level of manipulation in different leagues which has been in existence yet people still win and there are so some suspicious things that sport bookies does that points finger towards having an information earlier but losing streaks from an average bettor dies not equate this, they don’t buy informations sometimes even the bookies has no knowledge of the league management structure but because of how institutions have been setup for gambling industry to exist without much complication one can create yet not have connection with any league. I therefore conclude that the guy in question is just one hella angry man.

[FirmWars]

At first which type of information are they even arguing about because every information about a game is out there on the public

I was also wondering what kind of information the person is talking about, I don't agree with such claim, except it's a case of match fixing where the casino have planned with the team, but if it's not, then there's no secret information that is being sold. Sportbooks have easy predictable market such as Home/Away/Underdog. The outcome of any bet placed on these market depends on the luck of the player and the performance of the team, so the bookies advantage is just odds and also when a bettor makes a wrong prediction and lose the bet.

[salad daging]

Yep according to this article What we understand that the bookies bought the league information officially. - https://www.lsports.eu/blog/how-sports-betting-operators-use-historical-data
So the bookies do not buy the information directly league organizers, but rather to another party and it must subscribe, as well as there are other royalty percentages.
And I think the one that pays is not the casino but the sportsbook provider.

[Son Of Blockchain (SOB)]

 So how does the information concerns his luck? Or is he claiming that the bookies pay teams to ruin bettors game, if yes then it's a very awkward thought cause how many teams can they end up bribing, i don't understand how some bettors think, football betting has never stopped being a game of luck.
 Bettors are more luckier when they bet on single games than multiple games, you didn't state it but i feel he mostly bets on multiple games, if he can stake higher on single games maybe he may begin to have more wins than loses but many gamblers prefer to bet on multiple games with high odds and stake low.

[Showlove01]

The reason why I brought up this, is because of an argument between some bettors today. According to the claim of one of them, betting has not been very favorable to him for some weeks and he is blaming it on the sportbook and football Leagues, he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team and that some media also pays the league to get earl y information that they sell to some bettors and that there are some information that a team could sell to the bookies and media but will not make it public and the bookies are using it as an edge to make better prediction than an average bettors.

What cross my mind in that argument is that, most bettors do not bother to do proper analysis before bettors on a game, there are a lot of players who are just very desperate to make money and they don't bother to research for informations before betting on a team. I argued that the bookies get the same information that bettors get because all necessary information are published in different news site. But I believe some of us here are more experienced in sports, do you think bookies buy information from leagues?

Whether this is true or not I don't care since I still manage to pull out some significant wins regardless and for this argument, the fact that a gambler or a bettor hasn't win for some period of time doesn't mean the system is against him. Luck is one of the major thing people do forget in gambling because no matter how good we are in predicting games, we do need luck most times to scale out something from the Casino.

It is very normal for someone to argue whenever they feel cheated on or not favored yet it doesn't mean they are correct that something like this, is actually happening. If someone is very desperate to make money from gambling then there is probability they will end up losing to the Casino and it will look like they are cursed but they are not it's just their mindset that needs resetting and they should accept the fact that winning is not easy and loss is part of the game.

[Hewlet]

The reason why I brought up this, is because of an argument between some bettors today. According to the claim of one of them, betting has not been very favorable to him for some weeks and he is blaming it on the sportbook and football Leagues, he said that bookies always pay some sports league to get early information about different team.

In sports betting, is there any information any of the bookmakers have access to that an average player can not get if he takes his time to do proper research? or you think that the cheating that is associated with players trying to influence a game is not applicable in cases where sports league tries to compromise on certain standard? what can they actually leak to start with because if you look across all the leagues, there is nothing predictable or that can be leaked so far.

Gamblers should learn to take responsibility of their losses without putting the blame on people knowing fully well that before you made that stake, you must have resolved within you that you are ready to accept the eventual outcome.

[uneng]

You mean informations like who is going to play next match? Well, I think it doesn't make sense to pay to have access to such informations, because the coach may change his mind right before the match starts, changing who the main players are going to be.

And more sensible informations, like injured players, are publicly announced to the media, so there is no reason to pay for informations like that.

Bookmakers just have to do their research on what is going on with teams and players on the present time. I guess the real investment here is time...

[YOSHIE]

Do bookmakers buy information from sports leagues?

More or less like that, if I'm not mistaken, bookies do do that, they often buy official data and information from sports leagues. If I'm not mistaken, bookies often buy this information from third parties, as is commonly known by gamblers, namely Sportradar andGenius Sports.

As far as I know, bookies buy information data for the main reason, the goal is that the mechanism works, of course what they buy is not an internal secret, rather, such as high Odds accuracy, Match Integrity, live betting speed and so on, all of these have their own goals for the advantage of the bookies themselves, which in essence they buy information data.

[Frankolala]

I think that, you friend is only saying this out of frustration of losing his bets of which he doesn't know that's how gambling is. You lose more than you win. I don't know which of the league officials will be able to give out information about a match that's already in public. This is why if there's any change in the game based on the players, you will be informed before the game kick off.

Losers always give excuses for their losses and put the blame of someone. This is why they will continue to lose because they fail to understand that gambling is a game of luck.

[Akaenyi]

At first which type of information are they even arguing about because every information about a game is out there on the public

I was also wondering what kind of information the person is talking about, I don't agree with such claim, except it's a case of match fixing where the casino have planned with the team, but if it's not, then there's no secret information that is being sold. Sportbooks have easy predictable market such as Home/Away/Underdog. The outcome of any bet placed on these market depends on the luck of the player and the performance of the team, so the bookies advantage is just odds and also when a bettor makes a wrong prediction and lose the bet.

Except a bookmaker has inside information about a match fixing I don't think that they will have any sure advantages over us bettors, no matter the bookmakers and bettors skills at analyzing games we all need some levels of luck to do the right predictions. Although I know that bookmakers have greater analytical skills than most bettors who only analyze on the surface also they fix the odds, these are basically the edge that they have above us. Although I've heard some bettors allege that bookmakers buys information from clubs and their leagues but since I don't have extensive knowledge about how they do it I'll rather not delve into what I'm not sure.

[gracreavix]

I think you missed the whole thing up. Maybe that is not what you wanted to type. I intepreted it as bookmakers are planning with the league to play against a lot of bettors. That is what i thought it will sound like. But which information are you talking about that the bookmakers are buying from the leagues. Those information are made public already. And for that person that has been loosing and don't know why and came up with the conclusion that the bookmakers are after him. Not true, if it was the other way around, he won't complain that he is winning too frequently. He should calm down and identified what went wrong. At the same time, he shouldn't put so much hope that gambling is something that will save him from financial worries. He seems to be very keen about gambling and  i perceive that he is not gambling for fun.