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Today at 02:36:11 PM
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We focus more on hackers, phishing attacks and stolen passwords but we don’t think about casinos employees who try’s to steal and manipulate our win.
I don't think casino employees have that access to core information about players and their winnings.
Each employee have their own certain roles and anybody can not get the full access to information about players winnings especially going as far as withdrawing funds from players.

I will like to ask all of you, do you believe online casinos have enough internal security to prevent employees from abusing their access?
The core team of a casino are the ones that have that full access to check and do anything about winnings including freezing users accounts. We don't have to be scared about our funds leaving our accounts because that can not really happen.

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Today at 02:39:50 PM
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Some of the issues we have with casinos are not caused by the casino system that is put in place but because of the employees who are desperate and greedy.
Some of these casinos employees try to steal our win and if you don’t have enough evidence your money is gone, this is how some people lose their money and that’s why you need to gather evidence and keep when using a casino so you won’t be scammed by the casino’s employees.
I think this is unlikely to happen, before a casino trust an employee with the responsibility of having access to users funds, they must have set out every necessary security means by which it will pass through some verifications before it can be done which means the casino manager will be notified if such a thing wants to happen. I may be wrong though but i don't think there's anyway that a customers funds will be lost without the technical team being aware of it.

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Today at 02:41:37 PM
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My take on that is that it would be very difficult, because your transaction or gambling history are there, so if the money you won vanish from your balance, it can be trace with ease, so I don't believe that anyone will be stupid enough to carry such act.
Provided everything is fully documented and well traceable on the system, nobody will want to be engaged in such a suicide mission. Unless, if the said person has already planned of running out of the country in question which I beleive he can still be apprehended if they really want to do so.

Then again, I was just curious how such ridiculous thought can crossed someone's mind at his/her work place,  even when it's obviously not possible. What a length people can go just for personal gain that will later put them in trouble.

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Today at 02:52:07 PM
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Some of the issues we have with casinos are not caused by the casino system that is put in place but because of the employees who are desperate and greedy.
Some of these casinos employees try to steal our win and if you don’t have enough evidence your money is gone, this is how some people lose their money and that’s why you need to gather evidence and keep when using a casino so you won’t be scammed by the casino’s employees.
I think this is unlikely to happen, before a casino trust an employee with the responsibility of having access to users funds, they must have set out every necessary security means by which it will pass through some verifications before it can be done which means the casino manager will be notified if such a thing wants to happen. I may be wrong though but i don't think there's anyway that a customers funds will be lost without the technical team being aware of it.
I suppose that, while it might somehow be possible, one has to realize that such an action could only be carried out by an employee with extensive privileges specifically, someone authorized to access player funds and such access is likely restricted to only a handful of individuals within the company. It is even possible that not even the business founders themselves could withdraw funds unless two other authorized parties provided their respective keys to approve and confirm the transaction. Therefore, I would lean toward "no" rather than "yes." They certainly protect client funds as if they were their own.

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Today at 02:53:47 PM
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We focus more on hackers, phishing attacks and stolen passwords but we don’t think about casinos employees who try’s to steal and manipulate our win.

Some of the issues we have with casinos are not caused by the casino system that is put in place but because of the employees who are desperate and greedy.
Some of these casinos employees try to steal our win and if you don’t have enough evidence your money is gone, this is how some people lose their money and that’s why you need to gather evidence and keep when using a casino so you won’t be scammed by the casino’s employees.

I will like to ask all of you, do you believe online casinos have enough internal security to prevent employees from abusing their access?

It's not that straightforward, a casino doesn't belong to one person, and if someone working on the inside steals from you all it will take is calling out the casino, the issue will be rectify because the whole thing will be investigated and the person responsible will be exposed.

If you lose your money in a very funny way do not keep quiet, you will make things ten times harder for the person responsible for the stealing, the only way this type of stealing can work is if the employee gives your info to an outsider.

The few bad news I have heard about is a gambler winning large amount of money and on getting home some armed criminals came for the money, injured the person and get away with the money.

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Today at 03:01:27 PM
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When I play at the local online casino, I always feel like someone is manipulating my results behind the scenes. It feels like winning becomes impossible in an hour or two, and somehow I just be frustrated about it but have a feeling that it is controlled. Like a switch was turned on or off.
Lol, none of such is happening, this superstitious beliefs is all in your head, though i don't blame you because i have heard worse from gamblers that i personally know. Winning in gambling is difficult and that's just that, reputable gambling platforms do not rig their games, when you win, you win. When you lose, you lose. Just that you are more likely to lose than win, for obvious reasons.

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Today at 03:07:47 PM
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I suppose that, while it might somehow be possible, one has to realize that such an action could only be carried out by an employee with extensive privileges specifically, someone authorized to access player funds and such access is likely restricted to only a handful of individuals within the company. It is even possible that not even the business founders themselves could withdraw funds unless two other authorized parties provided their respective keys to approve and confirm the transaction. Therefore, I would lean toward "no" rather than "yes." They certainly protect client funds as if they were their own.
Also, consider how AI is being used today to hack into various platforms that hold funds. I believe that, in this day and age, absolutely anything is possible even an employee attempting to breach a system to gain access to a client’s money, potentially without the client ever noticing. That said, it is unlikely that such an attack would be directed at just one individual. I suspect it would more likely be a mass attack targeting all users almost simultaneously, aimed at stealing as much money as possible in the shortest amount of time.

 
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Today at 03:08:42 PM
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We focus more on hackers, phishing attacks and stolen passwords but we don’t think about casinos employees who try’s to steal and manipulate our win.

Is that possible? I thought that casinos does similar things with centralized exchanges where they store user's funds in an Omnibus Wallets where only they themselves can access it and not their employees. When you deposit funds to your casino account, the money doesn't sit in a private wallet, it is being moved to the casinos general ledger while you while you will just have a mirror of your balance so it's only the casino's database and accounts that can be hacked so whatever that happens to your funds didn't happen without the knowledge of the board of trustees of that casino.

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Today at 03:16:03 PM
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I will like to ask all of you, do you believe online casinos have enough internal security to prevent employees from abusing their access?
For this reason, it is highly recommended that every user who registers at an online casino, must really choose a casino that has a good reputation, is responsible, fair, licensed and complies with the regulations of the region where they operate the online casino.

Basically online casino operators/employees have direct access to user accounts, we often see bets/winnings manipulated, gamblers' accounts locked, funds frozen by bookies and many bad things happening to users with online casinos, For this reason, in general, casinos that have official regulations basically have security protection for their users, technical methods and operational tactics so that each user is protected and also maintain user anonymity.

Thus, casinos that prioritize reputation and truly bring casinos into international business, in general, online bookies always take care of user security, Regardless of how they implement security technology and encryption, they still protect and hide all forms of user activity, without making their users disappointed.

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Today at 03:18:09 PM
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We focus more on hackers, phishing attacks and stolen passwords but we don’t think about casinos employees who try’s to steal and manipulate our win.
This is actually true, and the bad part is that people barely talk about it. A casino employee can manipulate withdrawal requests, alter account balances and winning records, and abuse their administrative access.

When I was working as a manager at a betting office, one of my staff members tried to manipulate winning records from his end without knowing that those records were accessible through the admin account.

IMO, Casinos should be more careful about who they employ to ensure that an employee doesn't end up damaging their reputation.

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IMO, Casinos should be more careful about who they employ to ensure that an employee doesn't end up damaging their reputation.
There are basic requirements before they will hire an employee like requiring them to provide a police clearance, and other documents to prove that the person has no pending case or has not been jailed before. But even if you hire honest people to work with you but your system is weak, sometimes that could tempt them to do something wrong,.. so if I'm running a casino and I want to ensure safety, I would consider strengthening both, hiring process and system security.

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Today at 03:47:08 PM
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I will like to ask all of you, do you believe online casinos have enough internal security to prevent employees from abusing their access?

It pretty much depends on the position of the employee and the level of security clearance he has within the casino, obviously not all employees of the casino have the capability and power to alter one's balance or mess with casino games in order to change the outcome, that is reserved to a very exclusive number of casino personnel, who are supposed to have good enough salaries so they would not need to treason such a big trust the administration of the casino has destowed upon them.

Honestly, if we started to worry about this like that then a lot of people would not feel comfortable gambling on any casino at all, and they would move onto brick and mortar casinos, or other alternatives which would be much more difficult to mess with, because I want peace of mind I don't assume I am being constantly wronged by casinos.

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Today at 03:49:35 PM
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We focus more on hackers, phishing attacks and stolen passwords but we don’t think about casinos employees who try’s to steal and manipulate our win.

I have never seen such an incident before, where an internal person (official) of the casino steals players funds. I think, that's just a speculation-based thought, which is unlikely to happen in reality. If any such discrepancies occur and the customer reports it, it is corrected with respect. Otherwise, if the activities of the casino are suspicious, the casino is identified as a scam. Which, the whole team is associated with fraud.

Before hiring a person for a casino, it must be analysed. I believe, there are certainly internal policies in place. Which are suitable for the protection of players.

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Today at 04:08:35 PM
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We focus more on hackers, phishing attacks and stolen passwords but we don’t think about casinos employees who try’s to steal and manipulate our win.
One thing about us humans is that we focus more on the dangerous things we can easily see or hear about, and overlook the treats that operate under our noses.

There was this gambler who won a jackpot at a slot machine, but he didn’t notice it. I can’t recall all that happened whether the slot machine malfunctioned or something else that resulted to one of their staff members having to come check out what was wrong with the machine.

While the staff member was checking the slot machine he noticed that the man had won a jackpot instead let him know he tried to hide from the him by asking him to go play on another slot machine.

In conclusion, those who work at a casino or a gambling company should not be trusted because they alter anything alterable and manipulate anything manipulatable.

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Today at 04:09:36 PM
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I will like to ask all of you, do you believe online casinos have enough internal security to prevent employees from abusing their access?
Casino employees trying to trick gamblers into taking some of the winnings is my suspicion, but how can we gather evidence. I mean, have any gamblers ever reported it along with solid evidence. Whether it includes screenshots while we play, calculating the percentage of the House Edge they take or any other manipulation. As a gambler, I haven't really been able to be that thorough in raising suspicions.

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Today at 04:12:00 PM
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We focus more on hackers, phishing attacks and stolen passwords but we don’t think about casinos employees who try’s to steal and manipulate our win.

Some of the issues we have with casinos are not caused by the casino system that is put in place but because of the employees who are desperate and greedy.
Some of these casinos employees try to steal our win and if you don’t have enough evidence your money is gone, this is how some people lose their money and that’s why you need to gather evidence and keep when using a casino so you won’t be scammed by the casino’s employees.
If this kind of attempt from a single employee means, I guess we can report and try to recover whereas if the entire casino management itself tries to steal from a winning bet then we cannot do anything because they can say whatever reason by freezing your account like requirement of re-KYC or examining your bet or etc.

Stealing or manipulation by a single employee may not be possible over the winning amount of one gambler because these days casinos are coming up with high security for hot wallet and user profile information. Still, we cannot be sure about stealing or manipulation not happen because for a higher level of employee, access to users' data is highly possible but access to hot wallet might be only to owners. Moreover, with automated payout system and with user's password (and no 2FA requirement), an employee can easily steal.

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Today at 04:18:04 PM
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I will like to ask all of you, do you believe online casinos have enough internal security to prevent employees from abusing their access?
This is more of a risk to the casino than it is to the player because a casino is not like an exchange where people sometimes leaves huge amount of money for a long time for reasons best known to them. Casino players usually keep a small amount of money for their games and if they win, it’s from the reserve of the casino that the payment is meant to come from. If there’s an hack, the casino bears the greater brunt so if there’s attack is from an insider, it’s still to the detriment of the casino and the individual because it’s something that ca be easily caught.

Because of the volume of funds involved in casino business, I’m guessing security from the ends of the casino is not going to be taken lightly.

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Today at 04:19:55 PM
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Results can't be tampered, so an employee can't manipulate the result as loss for you and take away your win is likely to never happen but an employee can do other shady activities like they can access your account and withdraw money from your wallet balance and keep closing your case in the support system but again these are most extreme scenarios and not possible in a well-structured casino.
The op was asking if their is any chance that an employee in a gambling casino can steal your money in your gambling balance that you won, not that the gambling result can be manipulated.

 My take on that is that it would be very difficult, because your transaction or gambling history are there, so if the money you won vanish from your balance, it can be trace with ease, so I don't believe that anyone will be stupid enough to carry such act.

Although I doubt if a gambling casino will give all their employees such access, because as far as I know, it's only few set of trusted people that will be in charge of such offices, because these casino's are just like every other organization where it's only the top accountant that can disburse money after some approval are made.

Not all the transfers are recorded on blockchain, because it is possible to move funds between one casino account to another and when that happens there will be no blockchain record but I am sure that casino would have logs of where the funds are moved. Again it doesn't prove that someone logged into your account and stole the funds.

If I am not wrong, no employee can have your login details and they also can't change the results in anyway to void any bets, it should be done through the automated system or that is how it works in the reputed casinos.

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