@nulius, @Baseplate,
Please move the discussion here if you must contiue.
It’s oppressive to women to treat them as objects
In what world is porn
NOT objectification of women?
choosing to maintain my dignity, preserve the honor and dignity of my family, and for expecting the same of my community regardless of their ethnic, religious, or racial background. I make no differentiation between people of any creed who are honorable and respectful of themselves and others.
Despite your attempt to make this sound inclusive, the moral that you’re preaching is rooted in religion, and unsupportable without it.
Regardless of whether you chose to believe in a deity, what is religion other than simply codifying that which people have learned over millennia to be beneficial? All that any main-stream religion has attempted to accomplish to dictate how to treat one another, and maintain your mental, spiritual, and physical health. That includes a cohesive family which leads to a cohesive community. A cohesive community is sustainable and less likely to be usurped by a more cohesive community that dehumanizes your own. Conversely, promiscuity, degeneracy, and debauchery are the kryptonite of cohesiveness in a family, which in turn spoils the community.
So, you couldn't be more wrong when claiming my sentiments are unsupported without religion. The fact that the most common religions unanimously forbid such behavior is evidence in and of itself of the importance of protecting and honoring one's chastity. The voices that promote degeneracy, promiscuity, consumerism, and gluttony are the same voices that have convinced you the inverse is backwards thinking attributed to religion. Rather than take them at face value, try to think on what the results would be. Take them to their conclusion. Who stands to benefit? Do they behave that way within their own communities?
