Transnistria (Pridnestrov'je) seeking independence from Moldova

[bryant.coleman]

Everything will be fine when ukrainian side of the borders will be controlled by newly formed Ukrainian Federation

Almost 30% of the Transnistrian population is Ukrainian. What is the Right Sector's view on this? Do they want to ban the Russian and Moldvin languages in Transnistria and declare Ukrainian as the sole language?

[Balthazar]

People of Transnistria already met with similar activists in the early 90s. I don't think that right sector has any future here, they will be exterminated right at the border.

[niothor]

Everything will be fine when ukrainian side of the borders will be controlled by newly formed Ukrainian Federation

Almost 30% of the Transnistrian population is Ukrainian. What is the Right Sector's view on this? Do they want to ban the Russian and Moldvin languages in Transnistria and declare Ukrainian as the sole language?

Moldvin?  Lols , what's that.

But that would be a bit difficult with the remains of the 14th army guarding... the independence of Transnistria ))

Btw , those customs officials at the borders are probably the biggest idiots I've seen in my life.
And i did spent 4 hours at the Turkish border while they were rampaging through my luggage but still these are nr 2.

[niothor]

If Transnistria joins Russia, then Gagauzia will also follow the region and merge with Russia. Moldovia will lose its southern region also, in addition to the East.

Wait wait wait. Weren't you against Turkish people entering the Russian federation ?
Besides Gagauzia has nothing to do with the Russian (empire, communist or federation).
There was no point in history where they actually ruled that territory other that in the official statements.

[bryant.coleman]

Wait wait wait. Weren't you against Turkish people entering the Russian federation ?

The Gagauz may be speaking a Turkic language. But they don't have anything to do with the Turks. They are Christians and hard working.

Besides Gagauzia has nothing to do with the Russian (empire, communist or federation).

Russian is the official language in Gagauzia, in addition to Gagauz. No one speaks Moldvin there.

Also check this:

http://www.dw.de/moldovas-gagauz-region-leans-toward-moscow/a-17504239

http://www.moldova.org/overwhelming-support-russia-led-customs-union-illegal-referendum-moldovas-gagauz-region/

[niothor]

Wait wait wait. Weren't you against Turkish people entering the Russian federation ?

The Gagauz may be speaking a Turkic language. But they don't have anything to do with the Turks. They are Christians and hard working.

I've seen lots of Turks that have nothing to do with turkey.
And the gagauti have nothing to do with the Christianity you think  about

Besides Gagauzia has nothing to do with the Russian (empire, communist or federation).

Russian is the official language in Gagauzia, in addition to Gagauz. No one speaks Moldvin there.

Also check this:

http://www.dw.de/moldovas-gagauz-region-leans-toward-moscow/a-17504239

http://www.moldova.org/overwhelming-support-russia-led-customs-union-illegal-referendum-moldovas-gagauz-region/
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Ever been there?  As i said it previously , if you haven't been at least once through Moldova and Gagauzia , don't believe in anything Wikipedia says.

Btw , do you know how many people there know how to both speak and write in their language?
You'll have the same shock Karl May had when he traveled to the Orient, after writing the stories of Kara Ben Nemsi.

Those people have no clue about Romania or Moldova or Russia.
It's just their idiotic leader who makes stupid claims. Besides , he's one of the guys who don't know how to read the gagauz language ))))))

[bryant.coleman]

I've seen lots of Turks that have nothing to do with turkey.
And the gagauti have nothing to do with the Christianity you think  about

The Gagauz are devout Christians and they were the first group to oppose the recognition of Islam in Moldovia (off course which was forced upon the general public by the pro-EU loonies).

Ever been there?  As i said it previously , if you haven't been at least once through Moldova and Gagauzia , don't believe in anything Wikipedia says.

Из 23,293 yчeникoв, oбyчaющиxcя в 55 yчeбныx зaвeдeнияx aвтoнoмии, 22,163 oбyчaeтcя нa pyccкoм языкe. Ha мoлдaвcкoм (или pyмынcкoм языкe) — 707 yчeникoв, нa нecкoлькиx языкax cpaзy (включaя pyccкий) — 423 yчeникa.

http://www.regnum.ru/news/1084243.html

[niothor]

I've seen lots of Turks that have nothing to do with turkey.
And the gagauti have nothing to do with the Christianity you think  about

The Gagauz are devout Christians and they were the first group to oppose the recognition of Islam in Moldovia (off course which was forced upon the general public by the pro-EU loonies).

Just as some communities in the Philippine and in south america which claim to be christian but are more close to witch doctors. it's just that their Christianity even if it's orthodox like the one Moldova has so many differences. And they have lots of practices nobody has a clue where did they picked them up.

And again , quoting my line about not trusting everything Wikipedia says , you quote a Russian article....very professional for somebody claiming to have a fair point on this and not involved in propaganda.

I could give you hundreds of articles on this in romana but... not so sure Google won't translate gagaut as stupid )).
So , I won't have a fair view either.

[Balthazar]

Gagauz people are orthodox christians, many of them are followers of unrecognized Autocephalous Turkish Orthodox Patriarchate. This church is well known for its extreme conservatism, in comparison with other orthodox churches.

The rest part are followers of Moldovan Orthodox Church, Greek Orthodox Crurch and other Orthodox denominations.

[Nemo1024]

I would much prefer if they all were just atheists. Much easier to talk to and reason with.

[Balthazar]

I would much prefer if they all were just atheists. Much easier to talk to and reason with.

The most of the people are unable to develop self-control without conceptions of God, Divine Punishment, et cetera.

[bryant.coleman]

I would much prefer if they all were just atheists. Much easier to talk to and reason with.

What about the people who have reverted to the native faith? Seems to be quite popular in the Eastern Europe. Mostly a recent phenomenon, with the exception of the Mari of Russia. Some of the Turkic people have also reverted to the native faith. For example, the Chuvash call their native faith Vattisen Yaly. The Mari call theirs Chimari Yula.

[Nemo1024]

I would much prefer if they all were just atheists. Much easier to talk to and reason with.

What about the people who have reverted to the native faith? Seems to be quite popular in the Eastern Europe. Mostly a recent phenomenon, with the exception of the Mari of Russia. Some of the Turkic people have also reverted to the native faith. For example, the Chuvash call their native faith Vattisen Yaly. The Mari call theirs Chimari Yula.

Native faith, or pagan faith in plural gods like the Slavic Perun and Nordic Odin, is just a flight of people from the present over-indoctrinated Jewish cultural heritage, spread in the form of Christianity. These people search for the origins of their people, their culture, but still cling to the pre-made answers provided by religions. A much better route would be to start thinking for themselves, yet keep and honour their origins by remembering the myths and legends of their forefathers, without actively worshipping anything, but asking questions and coming to answers through scientific process.

[Sithara007]

What about the people who have reverted to the native faith? Seems to be quite popular in the Eastern Europe. Mostly a recent phenomenon, with the exception of the Mari of Russia. Some of the Turkic people have also reverted to the native faith. For example, the Chuvash call their native faith Vattisen Yaly. The Mari call theirs Chimari Yula.

Atheism is better than native faith.

[bryant.coleman]

Atheism is better than native faith.

I don't know. I am not religious.... but I will not call myself an atheist yet. That said Christianity has more than 1 millennium of history in Russia. The Soviets tried hard to erase it, but were unsuccessful.

[Balthazar]

Victory Day celebration in Tiraspol:

[bryant.coleman]

Rogozin : Russia will not allow to isolate Transnistria.

http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/09/n_6140277.shtml

[niothor]

Rogozin : Russia will not allow to isolate Transnistria.

http://www.gazeta.ru/politics/news/2014/05/09/n_6140277.shtml

You should really add "anymore" to that sentence.
Btw , crossing the border through Transnistria reminds me of the movies about the ww2. To many politicians going nuts on this planet.

[bryant.coleman]

Hmm.... Dimitri Rogozin blocked in Transnistria in Tiraspol after Romania & Ukraine deny air passage. Rogozin: I'm flying out despite the ban. What they are going to do? Shoot him down?

[niothor]

Hmm.... Dimitri Rogozin blocked in Transnistria in Tiraspol after Romania & Ukraine deny air passage. Rogozin: I'm flying out despite the ban. What they are going to do? Shoot him down?

There is no such ban.
That twitter post has already been debunked in the Romanian press.

Nobody cared about him when he got there , nobody care about him if he flies from there to Romania or the moon or Congo.

Besides there were no such thing as escorting planes for his flight.
Cheap propaganda.

Besides , this is now a politician should talk? Next time i'll come with a tu-160?
Too much vodka comrade.

You should check the reactions in the Romanian press , he is making enemies for nothing.