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Author Topic: [ANN] NiceHash.com - sell & buy hash rate cloud mining service / multipool  (Read 794359 times)
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April 28, 2014, 09:43:06 PM
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Are you talking about rejects or HW errors. Let's not make this the same thing.

You have two types of rejects; stale share and share below target. First one happens when you are too late to the party (basically, too high ping from you to the pool), second one happens due to incorrect configurations, wrong algorithm and similar issues. Which ones are you getting?

When it comes to HW errors, read my post above.

If you understand how stratum protocol works, how job delegation is performed, then you can clearly understand that ANY job throw at miner HAS to be performed with 0 HW errors. What is job at all? It is a string of data, that is being "hashed". Now you tell me, how can this string of data affect HW error rate? The only explanation is bad mining software that is perhaps incapable of doing fast work switch thus doing some nasty things it shouldn't (overwrites?) which results in HW errors thus rejected shares.

Unfortunately, we cannot control what kind of orders are put on NiceHash and some buyers put orders with fast work switching pools.
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April 28, 2014, 10:00:15 PM
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And that boils down to bad mining software, nothing else.

I don't know how you got that from my explanation. If you take a perfectly fine Gridseed farm that gets 2% rejects on a regular pool, point it to nicehash, and start getting 10%+ rejects, how is that "nothing else"? All I was saying, that with Gridseeds HWs are not the same as with GPUs, and yes the software is brain dead for reporting them that way, but they are not caused by said software. The fact is that nicehash in some cases produces a significantly higher reject rate than other pools. I would like to have these cases isolated, explained, and possibly fixed, rather than dismissed as "bad mining software". And by the way my own experience shows high reject rates with the latest sgminer on an R9 rig, so clearly not Gridseed or software issue.

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I know nothing about mining or stratum protocols.  All I can do is share my observation that I get EXTREME HW and rejects ONLY when pointed at Nicehash.  I can mine with no HW and <2% rejects when mining at coinshift, coinfu, weminall, etc with no settings or hardware changes on my end.  I'm not defending Hashra's controller or BFGMiner, but just hoping that someone can agree with my observations or point me in the direction of a solution.

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April 28, 2014, 11:45:31 PM
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Are you talking about rejects or HW errors. Let's not make this the same thing.

You have two types of rejects; stale share and share below target. First one happens when you are too late to the party (basically, too high ping from you to the pool), second one happens due to incorrect configurations, wrong algorithm and similar issues. Which ones are you getting?

When it comes to HW errors, read my post above.

If you understand how stratum protocol works, how job delegation is performed, then you can clearly understand that ANY job throw at miner HAS to be performed with 0 HW errors. What is job at all? It is a string of data, that is being "hashed". Now you tell me, how can this string of data affect HW error rate? The only explanation is bad mining software that is perhaps incapable of doing fast work switch thus doing some nasty things it shouldn't (overwrites?) which results in HW errors thus rejected shares.

Unfortunately, we cannot control what kind of orders are put on NiceHash and some buyers put orders with fast work switching pools.

Shouldn't you be able to pick one address from your database with a high reject rate and find out what the pool is getting from the miner? Anyway, here it is:

Code:
[01:09:53] Stratum from Pool 0 requested work restart
[01:09:53] Pool 0 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
[01:09:53] Pool 0 stale share detected, submitting as user requested
[01:09:53] Rejected 038413a0 Diff 1.03K/128 GPU 0 Pool 0 (Job not found.)
[01:09:53] Rejected 024cb076 Diff 304/128 GPU 1 Pool 0 (Job not found.)

Code:
Round started UTC	2014-04-28 18:17:38
Round accepted GH 43.60
Round rejected GH 7.52 (14.70%)

Now I don't know how else I could possibly convey to you that Gridseed HWs are not necessarily hardware errors, but possibly rejects/stales by another name, so lets not bother with that. I'm not too fond of their software either so let's blame it Smiley

The above is from an R9 rig with zero HWs, so nothing to do with Gridseeds anyway. Just give me a reasonable explanation how a perfectly fine mining rig can have a 10-15% sustained reject rate on nicehash but not on any other pool, and - more importantly - way above what you have stated "plenty of miners" are having. If it's geography maybe it's time to consider multiple endpoints. If it's something else I would like to know and I think I'm not alone. I can poke in the dark here trying different rigs and even different locations but that's a waste of time.
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April 29, 2014, 01:04:54 AM
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That is nothing else but stale share what you are showing. We have upped share validity to 700ms now. Stale shares will be lower.
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April 29, 2014, 01:32:40 AM
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Under DDOS attack.
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April 29, 2014, 05:26:21 AM
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nicehashdev, Hi. When add X11 ?  Smiley
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April 29, 2014, 03:30:16 PM
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nicehashdev, Hi. When add X11 ?  Smiley

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April 29, 2014, 07:34:55 PM
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As a GPU-only miner with power costs the most profitable coins are x11 (dark,hiro,etc.) right now.
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April 29, 2014, 11:00:37 PM
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After having a look at your site and not finding anything, I decided to ask you here: do you have an affiliate program (for referring people who are buying hashing power)?

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April 30, 2014, 05:21:25 AM
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please Add X11

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April 30, 2014, 06:58:55 AM
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please Add X11

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April 30, 2014, 12:54:44 PM
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As a GPU-only miner with power costs the most profitable coins are x11 (dark,hiro,etc.) right now.

http://globaldenomination.org/ looks promising as well!
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April 30, 2014, 01:15:05 PM
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+1
 I think at some point very soon asics will make scrypt a no go for us gpu miners x11 is the way to go

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April 30, 2014, 03:29:59 PM
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Hi,

I have some problem with the pool and bfgminer.

I use the last git version of bfgminer (3.99.0) and i have lots reject with this error: Share above target.

I know that's a bug in cgminer 3.7.2 but is it normal that's the last bfgminer had the same error ?

thanks to your help.
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April 30, 2014, 05:29:04 PM
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Hey guys, I'm experiencing some price drops abruptly today and yesterday on SHA256.
Is this right ?
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April 30, 2014, 05:42:22 PM
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Hey guys, I'm experiencing some price drops abruptly today and yesterday on SHA256.
Is this right ?
Thanks
 

If the better paying order goes dead, then your miners are switched to lower paying orders for a while.

Hi,

I have some problem with the pool and bfgminer.

I use the last git version of bfgminer (3.99.0) and i have lots reject with this error: Share above target.

I know that's a bug in cgminer 3.7.2 but is it normal that's the last bfgminer had the same error ?

thanks to your help.

Do you get 100% rejects or only some rejects?



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 I think at some point very soon asics will make scrypt a no go for us gpu miners x11 is the way to go

On todo list. We need to make share validator first.
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April 30, 2014, 07:19:12 PM
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Looks like DDOS again.
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April 30, 2014, 10:20:09 PM
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New betatest packages for sgminer/cgminer with fixed idlebug and added extranonce subscription for better performance when working on NiceHash.

Source sgminer:
git clone -b idlebug https://github.com/bitbandi/sgminer

Binaries sgminer:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bk63p5ucyhpid2t/aWhA2KsVZx/sgminer-idlebug

Source modded cgminer 3.7.2:
git clone -b cgminer-master https://github.com/bitbandi/sgminer

Binaries modded cgminer 3.7.2:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/bk63p5ucyhpid2t/XEH3qIVFaZ/cgminer-kalroth

Please test them and report back any bugs.
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April 30, 2014, 10:38:54 PM
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Is this different from the one announced just two days ago?
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April 30, 2014, 11:12:42 PM
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This release is broken. Miner crash before it can start mining.

Edit; the SG one


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