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April 09, 2014, 11:24:35 AM
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DARKCOIN is one of the few coins with a full time developer, and a developer that is open about who he really is: Evan Duffield.

While working on Darkcoin, Evan has created a number of new innovations. These are now starting to be used by other coins, including clones of Darkcoin or existing coins that are changing to adopt Darkcoin innovations.

This is a list of the the coins that are using Darkcoin innovations.

* Badgercoin - x11
* Bulgarian Crypto Coin (BGC) - x11
* CATicoin - x11
* CryptoPowers Coin - x11 and DGW
* ConspiracyCoin - x11
* Colorcoin - x11
* Edgecoin - x11
* Einsteinium  Emc2 - looking to switch from Scrypt to x11
* ElectronicYen - x11
* Electronic LIRA - x11 and DGW
* Emirates Coin - x11
* EuropeCoin - x11
* GiveCoin - x11
* Global Denomination - x11
* Groestlcoin - DGW
* H20Coin - DGW
* HackCoin - x11 (PoW/PoS)
* HashCoin - X11 and DGW
* HighFiveCoin - x11 and users voted to add DGW
* Hirocoin - x11
* Frycoin - added DGW to fix problems with KGW
* Juggalocoin - x11
* Lamacoin LAMA lamaco.in - x11
* Limecoin - x11 and DGW
* Libertycoin - x11 PoS
* Logicoin X11 and DGW
* MaruCoin - DGW
* Muniti - x11
* Our Coin - x11 (Pow/PoS)
* PinkCoin - x11
* Nyancoin - switching algo to x11
* Quebecoin - x11 and DGW
* RAP(e)COIN - DGW
* Rotocoin - DGW
* SummerCoin - x11 (after vote on others)
* TwilightCoin - x11 and DGW
* VirtualCoin - x11
* WILDWESTCOIN - x11 PoS

As at 14 May 2014, the rate of new coins using x11 was starting to speed up, so I'll do what I can to keep up.

Please look-up caveat emptor when looking at any coin above if you intend to spend your money. This is not a promotion or otherwise of any of the above.


Some information about the innovations to date. There are others that are being planned for release.

X11

Coins are using X11 hasing algo because it provides CPU and GPU support, with far less power requirements and GPUs run much cooler.

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With the chained hashing, high end CPUs give an average return similar to that of GPUs. Another side effect of the algorithm is GPUs run at about 30% less wattage than scrypt and 30-50% cooler.


Darkcoin Gravity Wave (DGW)

DGW adjusts the difficulty. It was created to fix problems found in KGW.

The founder of QuebecCoin uses it because:

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DGW is currently the best difficulty adjustment algorithm available. It fixes the KGW timewarp exploit and allows a very accurate difficulty adjustment. X11 multipools will soon be a reality and hashrate manipulation will be easily prevented with DGW. Once again, there's simply no alternative if you want the best.


DarkSend

DarkSend is an e-cash tool to make transactions anonymous.  The process begins within the wallet and therefore it is a decentralized solution to leaving breadcrumbs of spending on a block chain.

The Chairman of the Bitcoin Foundations says of anonymity:

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Bitcoins have a lot of memory. Depending on how they’ve been used, researchers are able to trace owners back many years by inspecting the blockchain....Privacy is extremely hard to come by on the Internet. Bitcoin itself is not very private right now.

Publication of the owner of a single Bitcoin address can yield an incredible amount of personal financial information, information that cannot be put ‘back in the box’ – it will be available forever, encoded into the blockchain. This is the sort of information that law enforcement agencies would typically need to subpoena a bank for; instead right now we offer it to the entire Internet.

We haven’t yet seen significant involvement from consumer privacy agencies at the Foundation, but I believe they will be horrified when they understand just how much private financial data is being broadcast and permanently recorded.

This information directly impacts citizens living under repressive governments. It could cause physical harm to a woman whose finances are controlled by her pimp or her kidnapper. The knowledge of transactions can be combined with violence to limit any human’s fundamental right to transact economically.


DarkSend has moved out of Beta and in to release candidates testing.


If you intend to use Darkcoin features, please post them here.

If you have suggestions for new innovations that coins could use, or need bug fixes, please post your suggestions here. You never know, they may get worked on.


Some FAQs about the above

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=538464.msg5931533#msg5931533


Darkcoin (DRK)
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615.msg4585001#msg4585001
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April 09, 2014, 12:13:26 PM
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Quoted from the other thread:
"DarkSend is in Beta V6 and will be moving to RC1."

What is RC1?

Thx!

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April 09, 2014, 12:14:00 PM
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Quoted from the other thread:
"DarkSend is in Beta V6 and will be moving to RC1."

What is RC1?

Thx!

RC = Release Candidate

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Software_release_life_cycle
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April 09, 2014, 02:15:19 PM
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Hey Coins101, I'm the QBC (Québecoin) developer. I'd like to say that I gave a huge shout out to Evan in my PRE-ANN thread. I simply wanted the best features available right now and DGW and X11 just happened to be both from Evan. I'm very grateful to have a developer like him to look up to, he sets an example I want to follow.

Hopefully all others coins using these features give him the same credit I did.


Québecoin - QBC [X11 - DarkGravityWave] Take a look! https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=552561.0 - http://ww.qbc.io
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Hey Coins101, I'm the QBC (Québecoin) developer. I'd like to say that I gave a huge shout out to Evan in my PRE-ANN thread. I simply wanted the best features available right now and DGW and X11 just happened to be both from Evan. I'm very grateful to have a developer like him to look up to, he sets an example I want to follow.

Hopefully all others coins using these features give him the same credit I did.



I've taken a look at your project.

Looks good.

Best of luck with it.
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April 09, 2014, 04:14:26 PM
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DogeCoin considering x11

http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/22llsb/scrypt_is_outdated_x11_is_the_current_best/
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Groestl coin has DGW
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April 09, 2014, 05:39:48 PM
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Groestl coin has DGW

Done. Thanks.

Not sure how I missed that. I mined GRS for 24hrs to test its power draw, which is one of the best in terms of efficiency for GPUs.
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April 09, 2014, 07:36:31 PM
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any more out there considering a change?
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April 10, 2014, 03:59:52 AM
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+1 vote for Darkcoin, the innovation coin.
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April 10, 2014, 09:24:56 AM
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Before you turn off your GPUs because of the fall in price of bitcoin and the cost of electricity, why not support one of these new energy efficient coins?

Cut your electricity costs by 30%-40%.

Just make sure you do your research first into the coins future potential and technical support.
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April 10, 2014, 10:00:20 AM
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The founder of Litecoin confirms that switching away from Scrypt to avoid ASICs is the best option, but it comes with risks.

He posted this today on reddit



http://www.reddit.com/r/dogecoin/comments/22niq9/merged_mining_amafaq/
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Frycoin, Scrypt based, added DGW on 8 April to resolved lasting problems with KGW.

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The founder of Litecoin confirms that switching away from Scrypt to avoid ASICs is the best option, but it comes with risks.

He posted this today on reddit

You're reading that wrong.
He's stating dogecoin switching away is the best outcome for litecoin.

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Rotocoin is use DGW
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=516138.0

DRK:XyRfLR7dupSJiPkmCS9A2r4qWcKsYCWvtG
DarkCoin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=421615 - DarkCoin aims to be the first privacy-centric cryptographic currency with fully encrypted transactions and anonymous block transactions.
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Thanks!
That's a new one on me. Actually looks interesting.
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The founder of Litecoin confirms that switching away from Scrypt to avoid ASICs is the best option, but it comes with risks.

He posted this today on reddit

You're reading that wrong.
He's stating dogecoin switching away is the best outcome for litecoin.

He is very concerned about ASICs centralizing Litecoin and leading to 51% attacks. There are many Bitcoin people who don't like Litecoin and would love to see it dead.
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The founder of Litecoin confirms that switching away from Scrypt to avoid ASICs is the best option, but it comes with risks.

He posted this today on reddit

You're reading that wrong.
He's stating dogecoin switching away is the best outcome for litecoin.

He is very concerned about ASICs centralizing Litecoin and leading to 51% attacks. There are many Bitcoin people who don't like Litecoin and would love to see it dead.

You're entirely misreading the text you're quoting.
In regards of changing the algorithm, all he's said is that Dogecoin changing algo is the best outcome for Litecoin.
He doesn't state Litecoin intends to do so, nor that this is the right option for Dogecoin.

Changing algorithm is a delaying tactic, not a solution.

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April 11, 2014, 10:55:21 PM
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The founder of Litecoin confirms that switching away from Scrypt to avoid ASICs is the best option, but it comes with risks.

He posted this today on reddit

You're reading that wrong.
He's stating dogecoin switching away is the best outcome for litecoin.

He is very concerned about ASICs centralizing Litecoin and leading to 51% attacks. There are many Bitcoin people who don't like Litecoin and would love to see it dead.

You're entirely misreading the text you're quoting.
In regards of changing the algorithm, all he's said is that Dogecoin changing algo is the best outcome for Litecoin.
He doesn't state Litecoin intends to do so, nor that this is the right option for Dogecoin.

Changing algorithm is a delaying tactic, not a solution.

You've taken that quote quite out of context. Are you even aware of the full story?

In his own words.



If he had the chance, he would dump scrypt.
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