Additional subsidy for P2Pool users: 1-3btc/day

[Cusipzzz]

To encourage users to use P2Pool, I'm sending 1-3btc every 24hrs to all the miners on P2Pool (proportionally).

First Txn: 607cde89cbad470317da51d052f4863127bf02a2f82fbd5442b24a774782aa40 (1.5btc)

Even if the pool is unlucky with blocks you will get a piece of this  

All of these transactions will be coming from 13XojBmkrR2pHKthehW8vfdcsjvKpbggfJ - Will be doing this for at least the next 15 days

So switch over to P2Pool because it's the right thing to do - or for the extra money!


***NEW*** Link to automated donation process: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57027.msg704445#msg704445

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[Cusipzzz]

You can contribute too: forrestv prepared a calculated sendmany at:

http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=1.5 (If 1.5btc is how much you want to donate)

and it will calc the payouts for the 24hr period.

[Cusipzzz]

using bitcoind:

./bitcoind sendmany "" "$(wget -O- http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=1.5)"

[Mike Hearn]

I'm going to do this as well, starting on Wednesday.

[Cusipzzz]

Today's contribution was 2.71828182btc to the miners of P2Pool.

Txn: 8a763a51e5e2e149d0459b33ae1597e54ba50c5fbae8ff6d6229cc49b6c17249

So join P2Pool, with mine and other contributions this has to be the highest paying pool currently. And you're hashing in the spirit of bitcoin

[mcorlett]

I'm going to do this as well, starting on Wednesday.

Do you have an address I can send some Instawallet leftovers to, for inclusion in your next "payout"?

[gmaxwell]

Edit: In fact, I think I screwed something up. At least it doesn't look like it was done cleanly.

It was probably okay, sendmany's look weird in the transaction history (they look like multiple transactions).

Thanks for supporting p2pool!

[DeepBit]

I don't have a transaction yet. It was difficult enough to get it to work in windows. I had to add a \ in front of each " inside the {} manually in notepad. I think I'm partially blind now. Ahh, being a noob is fun.

That's what "Find and Replace" function is for.

[dirtycat]

I just started mining with p2pool yesterday..  and this is where I will be mining from now on.. I will be sending a contribution to the miners of P2Pool also.

[grue]

I just sent my first contribution to the miners of P2Pool. 1 Bitcoin split among all.

I don't have a transaction yet. It was difficult enough to get it to work in windows. I had to add a \ in front of each " inside the {} manually in notepad. I think I'm partially blind now. Ahh, being a noob is fun.

But it seemed to have worked!

I will be doing this again in the future (and trying to find an easier way in the meantime)!

Edit: In fact, I think I screwed something up. At least it doesn't look like it was done cleanly.

Edit2: Here is the transaction. http://blockexplorer.com/tx/dffb625648d1191014af227c794d35b95da9210c22bad36c16b62b9469641e18

i use triple quotes :p

[Mike Hearn]

I'm going to do this as well, starting on Wednesday.

Do you have an address I can send some Instawallet leftovers to, for inclusion in your next "payout"?

Sure. Anyone who trusts me to redistribute the coins correctly can send to:

1KL2LBwHPpEAKKu7squ482T2tmWStaabFn

I'll put whatever arrives there into the next payout.

(edit: change address to keep others coins separate from my own)

[ThePok]

Hehe someone donated 20 BTC to Mike Hearen for P2Pool! Its lucrativ to mine at P2Pool!!

[Mike Hearn]

Those are my coins actually. That's why I changed the address, to keep it all separated.

I'm planning on subsidizing the pool with a small amount each day. At current exchange rates it's worth getting the free money and you're helping take Bitcoin back to how Satoshi envisioned it - large numbers of voters none of whom can dominate the consensus.

[Cusipzzz]

Nice to see Mike!

I'll be donating around 30btc to P2Pool miners as well by the time my 15 day commitment listed in the op is complete.

With all these donations, everyone should get on P2Pool and get paid extra for doing the right thing!

[mcorlett]

I'm going to do this as well, starting on Wednesday.

Do you have an address I can send some Instawallet leftovers to, for inclusion in your next "payout"?

Sure. Anyone who trusts me to redistribute the coins correctly can send to:

1KL2LBwHPpEAKKu7squ482T2tmWStaabFn

I'll put whatever arrives there into the next payout.

(edit: change address to keep others coins separate from my own)

Sent! Thanks for doing this.

[Cusipzzz]

Today's contribution was 1.666BTC

More free money for P2Pool miners - come get some!

Txn: f28f402692ec1f0460624f827f3b7dfae366eea6242ec600215006d436ff3e10

[the joint]

Meh, I like deepbit, but I also like what I'm familiar with.

3 BTC up front to get me to do it.  Just one dude's attitude.

Btw, I get why switching could be better.  Good luck with the pool.

[the joint]

Meh, I like deepbit, but I also like what I'm familiar with.

3 BTC up front to get me to do it.  Just one dude's attitude.

Btw, I get why switching could be better.  Good luck with the pool.

Did you just say that you would switch to p2pool if someone gave you 3 BTC first?

Definitely.  Takes me about 10 days to get that with a 6970.  Should more than make up for the possibility of bad pool luck.

[terrytibbs]

You make me LOL every time, the joint.

[the joint]

You make me LOL every time, the joint.

I'm glad I can brighten your day

[omo]

is it possible to add a feature to the p2pool, for each miner joined p2pool, they can set a donation percentage, just like what they did in other pools, but the donations are sent to miners mining in p2pool? also, people can see a total donations in a stat page.

[Cusipzzz]

More free btc for P2Pool miners: 1,99718 BTC

Txn: 51cca5e3d1f186d5344f204535b40e4d350ace8ecc2726345c1c453448c7b9e5

Still many days to come with free money, so get on P2Pool and get your share!

[Mike Hearn]

Some more subsidies today:

20f5844c7ec1dccc6abc436bf5ca99b19235fc0f5536cd033d4facb6d4862a1f 0.39 BTC from mcorlett

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/14165930/2deea9139104a73aaedd32c30cd35aebf0a4fdfec01c76a5a6008685bbc84274
2.0 BTC   from me

That's a free $12, with another coming tomorrow. Get mining people!

[Cusipzzz]

Another 1.223344btc for today contributed to the miners @ P2Pool

txn: df6c4879d7a62ea95592c2cecffabc4b58577b01bb1a2271767ee107df2ca98c

Get to mining on P2Pool - lotsa free money coming the next 10 days!!

[Mike Hearn]

182c1c755375b14d117f1204b32eb8c2224887aad2cf8e14775afa84a7e19f6e

[Cusipzzz]

More money for P2Pool miners!

txn: bc41188faa51db684c9981eafbc1caae66aeeb6ecd7ba3a1ab4a92a920cabe95

gogo miners 

[marcus_of_augustus]

Another good donation (of time) could be with some attention to the docs/howto and ease the way with getting set-up for P2pool mining ... path of least resistance is still to pay for convenience and lower-variance of centralised pools via fees, although the balance is definitely now shifting with these sendmany donations (neat idea ).

Maybe for the casual miners a P2Pool bundled script that installs the necessary components in the correct place, conf settings done, etc? Not sure how difficult that would be with all the variable hardware, miner s/ware, etc. Actually, does Gui-miner support P2Pool?

If P2Pool hits >120 GHash/s then probably gets stickied on the "Pools" sections, etc

[Mike Hearn]

914cffd779f203d91e33a2143215d880395ecdd2cfd059b05e0c6fb1f80f89d4

[Mike Hearn]

It seems not many new users are joining because of the subsidies. I wonder what the bottleneck is - really ease of use? People don't care? Still too much variance on the p2pool?

[iongchun]

It seems not many new users are joining because of the subsidies. I wonder what the bottleneck is - really ease of use? People don't care? Still too much variance on the p2pool?

Maybe some more statistics to prove p2pool's efficiency?
I mean, for example, estimated payout history for local miners (like yourbtc/ozcoin), share count history for mined blocks, etc.
I think it is hard to convince people without numbers/graphs/charts

[Mike Hearn]

I was assuming that's wrong, as the graph on the p2pool forum post hasn't changed much, but still appears to be live.

[goblin]

It seems not many new users are joining because of the subsidies. I wonder what the bottleneck is - really ease of use? People don't care? Still too much variance on the p2pool?

Maybe some more statistics to prove p2pool's efficiency?
I mean, for example, estimated payout history for local miners (like yourbtc/ozcoin), share count history for mined blocks, etc.
I think it is hard to convince people without numbers/graphs/charts

OK, you can check the current payout distribution at:

http://yat.uukgoblin.net/p2pool-stats/current_payouts.html

It pulls data straight from forrestv's node at p2pool.forre.st. Also, all this data will be in p2pool's logs, if you're running it.

I'm planning to donate some (about 5BTC) too, in a few days - to everyone except me ;-)

Ah yes, and stats at blockchain.info are wrong - I've already emailed piuk about it, but didn't get any reply so far.

[gnar1ta$]

I'm going to try to set up p2pool this weekend.  If I can figure it out I'll put some money in for the cause. 

[Cusipzzz]

Agree - anyone want to get the word out?

Another contribution, txn: 1abc4acdf31ce7aad7e4be29f77514d98478c9992e3541137ef454a3e57c0c5b

Get paid to mine and do the right thing for the network..Not sure why it's not catching steam yet. But I still have at least 9 more days of contributions to go!! So set up P2Pool now and get mining!

[Therilith]

OK, you can check the current payout distribution at:

http://yat.uukgoblin.net/p2pool-stats/current_payouts.html

It pulls data straight from forrestv's node at p2pool.forre.st. Also, all this data will be in p2pool's logs, if you're running it.

Doesn't seem to be working.

Code:

error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/rate: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/current_payouts: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/recent_blocks: undefined

Also, is there a waiting period/minimum number of shares needed to get on the list?

[marcus_of_augustus]

As it stands any pool that has similar or less Hashpower than P2Pool has an incentive to join P2Pool as a supernode (perhaps even without informing its pool miners?) just on variance considerations alone ... plus that little extra from the donations.

Only pools that are >3 times bigger than P2pool stand to gain little from not joining. Inevitably, P2Pool will slowly absorb all the smaller pools gaining in size the whole time until there comes to a point ..... "There can be only One".

Edit: What is the current difficulty of a P2Pool share?

[goblin]

OK, you can check the current payout distribution at:

http://yat.uukgoblin.net/p2pool-stats/current_payouts.html

It pulls data straight from forrestv's node at p2pool.forre.st. Also, all this data will be in p2pool's logs, if you're running it.

Doesn't seem to be working.

Code:

error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/rate: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/current_payouts: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/recent_blocks: undefined

Also, is there a waiting period/minimum number of shares needed to get on the list?

You might need a recent browser (Firefox 3.5 or later AFAIR) as this uses AJAX with CORS which is a pretty new standard. Works for me.

No, there is no minimum to the best of my knowledge, as soon as you get 1 share into the p2pool blockchain you qualify for a payout.

[goblin]

Edit: What is the current difficulty of a P2Pool share?

159.130410 at the time of this writing :-)

Changes pretty often.

[broken]

Doesn't seem to be working.

Code:

error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/rate: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/current_payouts: undefined
error: http://p2pool.forre.st:9332/recent_blocks: undefined

Keep in mind that you can't access a different domain on client side ( eg. javascript ) due to sandbox violation. You have to do the AJAX requests on server side.

[Therilith]

Also, is there a waiting period/minimum number of shares needed to get on the list?

No, there is no minimum to the best of my knowledge, as soon as you get 1 share into the p2pool blockchain you qualify for a payout.

Ok, I was just curious because I've been mining on P2Pool for the past 24h, but my address isn't on http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=1.5

[Mike Hearn]

Another payment sent

[Rassah]

Just set up P2Pool last night. Used to be on BTCGuild and deepbit until their fees got too high, switched to Eligius briefly, but have some personal issues with the pool's operator, so decided to look into this thing. Honestly, the setup instructions for P2Pool make it look way more complicated than it really was. I was also using GUIMiner with Phoenix before, and had no idea how much easier (more automated) and better cgminer was. So, thanks. Extra incentives or not, this is definitely a better way to mine.

[Therilith]

Hmm... Looks like you have to be eligible for a minimum amount of BTC to show up on http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=1.5.
I can only see my address(es, guess I should consolidate) if I up the total "donation" to at least ~12 BTC.

[Therilith]

This only applies to the additional subsidies. I assume it was because when dividing small amounts (like 1.5 Bitcoin) it creates very small amounts for the small miners, which can be troublesome to send (amounts less than the fee required to send them).

When the pool finds a block, you will receive your normal payment according to the work you've contributed. We've found several in the past day, so you should see some pending payouts.

Edit: Ha! I got a phone call while writing that, I see you found the answer before I finally posted.

Yeah, thanks for the info anyway. I can't believe I missed it when I read through that thread.

The pool found 3 blocks in my first ~10 hours of mining. A nice welcome indeed.

[Cusipzzz]

Yet another contribution:

txn: aeee9aeb2a560b6ca4ec09495419b41558b9638465a18177059f7a61d49fc2da

gogo P2Pool

[doublec]

As it stands any pool that has similar or less Hashpower than P2Pool has an incentive to join P2Pool as a supernode (perhaps even without informing its pool miners?) just on variance considerations alone ... plus that little extra from the donations.

I tried this briefly with mmpool to see how it would work. Unfortunately 10 second longpolls means every user of the mmpool would be constantly longpolling. Many would probably not get the longpoll message before another one went out. Without sending the longpoll to users (ie. trying to hide the fact that p2pool was being used) would result in a large number of stales.

[Mike Hearn]

04b0a9f07be8fa2ec22971ab3e0bb161b87791883c912d826d739d3a8a5aff23

[dani147624]

How do you determine who gets a part of these bitcoins? Is it random? Or should everyone mining in p2pool be receiving them? If the latter, it isn't working perfectly, as I haven't received any bitcoins except for the generation. My address: 13ueEyoJY6c3cQk8ZgaAxhw3MeNYdpP3Te

[Therilith]

04b0a9f07be8fa2ec22971ab3e0bb161b87791883c912d826d739d3a8a5aff23

I always shut off my miners mere hours before a big donation.  

[greed]
I'm a bit confused though.

EDIT: Using the quoted donation as an example:
I'm not mining ATM. Haven't mined at all for the past 11 hours. I still show up on http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=5 (note the 5, 1HLXuWY1JC6j6RD2c6BUFCGyeqFrTZ9qAG).
If I am eligible for part of a 5 BTC donation after 11 hours of not mining,
shouldn't I have been eligible for part of a 13 BTC donation after 1.5 hours of not mining?
[/greed]

[Mike Hearn]

The 13 BTC was change, not a part of the donation. The donations are running at 2-3 BTC per day. If you don't do much mining you probably will never become eligible.

[Therilith]

The 13 BTC was change, not a part of the donation. The donations are running at 2-3 BTC per day. If you don't do much mining you probably will never become eligible.

Seems I'm making a habit of overlooking the painfully obvious.

[westkybitcoins]

I'm going to do this as well, starting on Wednesday.

Do you have an address I can send some Instawallet leftovers to, for inclusion in your next "payout"?

Sure. Anyone who trusts me to redistribute the coins correctly can send to:

1KL2LBwHPpEAKKu7squ482T2tmWStaabFn

I'll put whatever arrives there into the next payout.

(edit: change address to keep others coins separate from my own)

My one-time contribution to the growth of p2pool:

tx: d1376a2b41a98cad308981afe133b0680f43bd20ac18395836d08a0341ffb035

A post when it's distributed would be great!

[Mike Hearn]

There we go:

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/14404129/4df64f4cd9a59d1f318ad912e97528730c3fa001fb73c035d8208decae6b9e2c

The TX looks weird (does not spend your output) because I'm using the accounts feature of bitcoind.

Taking total output and subtracting the change: 7.6095 - 5.60998331 = 1.99951669, which is 2 coins. I'm not entirely sure why it results in such a weird number, it's clearly had the 0.0005 min fee subtracted from it and that yielded some weird rounding problem. BitcoinD uses floats in its API (not a good choice), which is probably the reason.

I originally intended to whip up a bitcoinj based app for doing this, in order to keep the transactions clean, but I haven't added support for send-manys to it yet so it wasn't possible. Perhaps after the next release.

BTW I've also been distributing coins every day at 12:00 CET, I just didn't bother posting all the tx hashes. There's still money left to claim.

[westkybitcoins]

Taking total output and subtracting the change: 7.6095 - 5.60998331 = 1.99951669, which is 2 coins. I'm not entirely sure why it results in such a weird number, it's clearly had the 0.0005 min fee subtracted from it and that yielded some weird rounding problem. BitcoinD uses floats in its API (not a good choice), which is probably the reason.

That seems like asking for trouble. Ah well, thanks for distributing it though.

[Turbor]

Hey, thank you for your donations !

[Syke]

I love the idea of p2pool, but I hate reconfiguring my miners. Sounds like p2pool is big enough that it's worth trying out. Here goes...

[Syke]

Yeah, setup wasn't too bad. I've already got a couple shares in on the current round. Documentation could use some work, but otherwise everything else looks good.

[Rassah]

Yeah, setup wasn't too bad. I've already got a couple shares in on the current round. Documentation could use some work, but otherwise everything else looks good.

Yeah, the setup instructions make it seem to be way more complicated than it actually is. Just download files, copy/paste command line commands with changes to your own login/password, and you're set.

[Mike Hearn]

The subsidies are continuing to roll in:

02c8a8db2bb0d99cd94a9dc134a1e2c3e62bbab44842b3231c24de765ffb7094

New miners: I'd be interested to know to what extent the subsidies affected your decision to join p2pool.

[gnar1ta$]

New miners: I'd be interested to know to what extent the subsidies affected your decision to join p2pool.

Helped move me over 

[Rassah]

New miners: I'd be interested to know to what extent the subsidies affected your decision to join p2pool.

I found out about them after I moved. My reason for moving were low mining fees and distributed mining as opposed to centralization, so bonuses are  a plus. (Only other low interest pool I knew of was Eligius, and I didn't want to be there)

[scintill]

New miners: I'd be interested to know to what extent the subsidies affected your decision to join p2pool.

The subsidies got me to invest the time/risk to try it out (risk being, I'm more concerned about my p2pool instance dying and my miner not failing over, or something like that.)  Unfortunately with my measly hashrate (360) I haven't received any subsidies yet. Still, I appreciate them!

Also, this is OT and may be addressed somewhere in the main pool thread:  my earnings over the last ~2.5 days seem lower than in a normal pool.  Is this just a matter of the short time I've been measuring, or is there some other factor?

Thanks again.

[Rassah]

Also, this is OT and may be addressed somewhere in the main pool thread:  my earnings over the last ~2.5 days seem lower than in a normal pool.  Is this just a matter of the short time I've been measuring, or is there some other factor?

Thanks again.

I think it's the high variability. There were times when I got nothing for two days, or 0.07btc, and once I got 0.49btc. I also got two 0.01 subsidy payments. I'm hoping over the course of a week/ month it will average be the same as what I get on a regular pool. (550mhash here)

[Mike Hearn]

I've completed the distribution of my 20 BTC ($120) of subsidies. I'm happy to see that p2pool has grown during this time.

I won't be restarting the subsidies for now, because it seems that they weren't making a big difference: the bottleneck to p2pools growth appears to be simplicity and ease of use at this point rather than the need for financial incentive. If Forrest tackles these issues and the bottleneck to growth becomes merely inertia, I might restart subsidizing the pool.

[Rassah]

I still like the idea of cgminer p2pool integration. If joining was as easy as running your bitcoin software and just starting cgminer with -p2pool option, a lot more people would join, especially newbies, since starting one program with one option is way simpler than signing up on a pool web page and setting up custom configuration on a miner to connect to it. As far as I understand it, everything the miner and p2oool need to work (bitcoin address, localhost) it can already grab automatically from your own system.

[coretechs]

Integration would be really helpful.  For bigger miners with lots of nodes, the current setup is pretty flexible though.  Just run it on a box with bitcoind and point all your miners there.  Do what is right for bitcoin and benefit - no more DDoS outages and better control of your hashing power.

I'm donating to miners on p2pool

Anyone feel like matching?

[gnar1ta$]

Setting up one server for multiple miners isn't that much more work.  I think the bigger issue, and it is more easily solved, is monitoring.  I think a monitoring tool like BAMT's mgpumon would really help push some farms over, especially if it could send out alerts of idle miners (like many pools do).  I'll put up 5BTC for any monitor that I can access over ssh with a browser to monitor rigs running cgminer to a single p2pool node. And another .5 for 10 days to join coretechs if someone can tell me how to do it from a gui wallet.

EDITED

[coretechs]

And another .5 for 10 days to join coretechs if someone can tell me how to do it from a gui wallet.

The donation script is now disabled.  Thanks to everyone who donated.

You could trust my cron job to do it for you.  

It will send a fixed amount once per day at a random time to miners at p2pool.  The amount is based on the balance at the following address:

Any donations to this address will be sent to the p2pool miners

The job script is dynamic and sends a fixed amount based on the balance of the address in the wallet.

1-10 balance -  1 BTC per day
10-99 balance - 2 BTC per day
100-999 balance - 3 BTC per day
etc.

This should work for now.  I can change the daily amount later if a lot of people start donating.  I will fund it with the remaining 9 BTC of my pledge later this evening.  If I decide to stop the job from running at any point, the remaining balance will be sent to all miners in the pool at that time.  I just set this up to take care of my donations so I don't have to send them manually but I figured why not open it up to anyone else.

(1/20/12): BTC sent.  You can track the deposits here ("Received"):
(1/21/12): had to do some wallet cleanup, address now shows correct balance
(1/24/12): donation history updated
(1/26/12): added some better logging that I will include in the donation history going forward
(2/7/12): minor network issue last night prevented the donation from being sent, so two payments were sent this morning
(2/8/12): made some changes to the script to adjust the timing intervals, additional payment sent yesterday
(2/19/12): final donation sent.  The remaining amount was too small to split effectively so I sent it to forrestv (p2pool author)
 

This was the final donation.  The amount was too small to split effectively so it was sent to forrestv.  Thanks for everyone who donated and a special thanks to forrestv for his continued support and excellent software.  The total amount donated to p2pool miners was ~43 BTC.  

[gnar1ta$]

any monitor that I can access over ssh with a browser to monitor rigs running cgminer to a single p2pool node.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57342.0

This won't give me p2pool stats...but it does look great, if only I could figure out how to install it.

And another .5 for 10 days to join coretechs if someone can tell me how to do it from a gui wallet.

You could trust my cron job to do it for you.  

It will send a fixed amount once per day at a random time to miners at p2pool.  The amount is based on the balance at the following address:

Sent 5

[Syke]

New miners: I'd be interested to know to what extent the subsidies affected your decision to join p2pool.

Definitely. Any time spent reconfiguring miners is lost money. The subsidy was enough to let me take down my miners and switch them to p2pool without losing anything.

Another factor was the size. With 100+ GH/s, blocks come on average slightly better than once a day. That's low enough variance for me. I can just monitor my bitcoin address from anywhere to see if everything is still running.

The final point was the decentralized nature. I don't like seeing Bitcoin in 2-3 centralized pools. P2pool is magic.

My only concern at this point is the stability of the p2pool script. That needs to stay running 24/7. Thankfully no problems in the first few days.

[scintill]

Setting up one server for multiple miners isn't that much more work.  I think the bigger issue, and it is more easily solved, is monitoring.  I think a monitoring tool like BAMT's mgpumon would really help push some farms over, especially if it could send out alerts of idle miners (like many pools do).  I'll put up 5BTC for any monitor that I can access over ssh with a browser to monitor rigs running cgminer to a single p2pool node. And another .5 for 10 days to join coretechs if someone can tell me how to do it from a gui wallet.

EDITED

I've just found http://<p2pool node addr>/local_stats and /recent_blocks .  If you have a JSON viewer extension in your browser, they look pretty decent for keeping an eye on things.  I was wondering, besides watching transactions on my payout address, how I'd know when a block was found.

[Mike Hearn]

Yeah, stability really matters. I hope the crash p2pool triggers gets fixed.

Holliday, your thread is a great idea, but you may want to put the tl;dr at the TOP. Your post is huge and reads like a manifesto. Putting the punchline at the top will help get people who are busy but already understand Bitcoin.

I didn't realize that some people care about reconfiguration time. It doesn't seem like that'd lose you all that much money, but nice to know the subsidies helped ride you through it.

[cereal7802]

http://blockchain.info/tx-index/14569324/35f2539eb2da9bb42177032f0ad62e91f12c61eb1531bfcfad8d395eb632f4dd



its not much. but i had to try it

[coretechs]

I cleaned up the wallet, it should track correctly now.

[thirdlight]

If I'm not mistaken, we've just received another 9.74+ coins for the miners! This is awesome! Thank you whoever sent this!

... some of which has just been paid out in a block that p2pool found. Block 163326 was worth 52.06618496 btc to p2pool miners!

[ThiagoCMC]

using bitcoind:

./bitcoind sendmany "" "$(wget -O- http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=1.5)"

Donation sent! 1.5 BTC - 976e61b19c998394011a4332e08b7b5c774fde775ae3734846c004efe490d321

Cheers!
Thiago

[ThiagoCMC]

Donation sent!

$ bitcoind sendmany "" "$(wget -O- http://MY_IP:9332/patron_sendmany?total=2.0)"

f98e7ffb491fd4efae01c9a9aae2c146fdccdfe0b28fa8fdbd2c3130d78b9c03

Cheers!
Thiago

[TheHarbinger]

Donation sent!

$ bitcoind sendmany "" "$(wget -O- http://MY_IP:9332/patron_sendmany?total=2.0)"

f98e7ffb491fd4efae01c9a9aae2c146fdccdfe0b28fa8fdbd2c3130d78b9c03

Cheers!
Thiago

Holy crap!  I don't know what happened, somehow I got 0.3 BTC from that donation, while most everyone else got far less.  Looks like the next highest share was like 0.1BTC.  Something is amiss,  Because I'm quite sure I don't have 3x the hashing power as anyone else on P2Pool.

Someone explain this please?

http://blockchain.info/address/153B6PKQa3UaeSir8juvtg2Err7xVgz6UD

[ancow]

Donation sent!

$ bitcoind sendmany "" "$(wget -O- http://MY_IP:9332/patron_sendmany?total=2.0)"

f98e7ffb491fd4efae01c9a9aae2c146fdccdfe0b28fa8fdbd2c3130d78b9c03

Cheers!
Thiago

Holy crap!  I don't know what happened, somehow I got 0.3 BTC from that donation, while most everyone else got far less.  Looks like the next highest share was like 0.1BTC.  Something is amiss,  Because I'm quite sure I don't have 3x the hashing power as anyone else on P2Pool.

I'm not 100% sure how "patron_sendmany" works, but it doesn't seem to account for all shares in the current sharechain, just the last couple. That means you just had a lucky streak and generated 3x as many shares as anybody else in whatever interval of the sharechain "patron_sendmany" looks at. Others like me who had a personal unlucky streak and no shares found in a longish while didn't get paid at all.

[thirdlight]

I'm not 100% sure how "patron_sendmany" works, but it doesn't seem to account for all shares in the current sharechain, just the last couple. That means you just had a lucky streak and generated 3x as many shares as anybody else in whatever interval of the sharechain "patron_sendmany" looks at. Others like me who had a personal unlucky streak and no shares found in a longish while didn't get paid at all.

Probably the "small miner lottery". See this post.

[ThiagoCMC]

Hi!

 I would like to improve this!

 P2Pool donations - Promotion! You'll stay out?!
 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=62940.0

 Lets make P2Pool a ~600GHash pool!

 And increase the donations to the miners!!

Best!
Thiago

[ThiagoCMC]

Just run:

bitcoind sendmany "" "$(wget -O- http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=10.0)"

[mcorlett]

Just run:

bitcoind sendmany "" "$(wget -O- http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=10.0)"

I'd rather see the 10BTC split into smaller, more frequent donations. The goal is to incentivize people considering joining the network, if a miner notices there's more coming in the coming days, they are more likely to join than if it's already been dumped before they noticed.

[ThiagoCMC]

you guys should tell me where to send the coins... ill send more later too

Use this command to donate to P2Pool miners:

bitcoind sendmany "" "$(wget -O- http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=10.0)"

The Bitcoin Address of each miner will be downloaded automatically from this command.

Tks!!!
Thiago

[terrytibbs]

okay, if there is not a btc address i can just send the btc to never mind:(

i am not going to run some command i do not understand.

thanks anyway.

Sure there is!

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Thanks for contributing!

[terrytibbs]

Sorry about that, my scraper missed the prefixing 1.

I'd edit my post, but I'm a SCAMMER (=I made millions off of scamming poor people).

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To the address 1Aa8WMEhuTRC9NHpoAANSZfFAkEBp8CjWx you must send 0.0316906 BTC
To the address 1H9rixoR6kGD5t1bTo9v4DZni3NKCXQYEK you must send 0.05952776 BTC
To the address 16UhZXjxnt2hJGsxCFqyreL3Qodmc4BCW2 you must send 0.01152561 BTC
To the address 1AbMtTJh9QvkCsiTtB2CjLNpPsnuKUgxYn you must send 0.03906097 BTC
To the address 12nUsuwdswRG1GU2vnymkuAAbSwk9LmCJt you must send 0.01369925 BTC
To the address 12LDHBasDcMwFUEDrx3q9EE3omP9ALgTaq you must send 0.0187683 BTC
To the address 197giRXjySrTqyiaccyrw4UEu66Zc5Yymf you must send 0.01735365 BTC
To the address 1GeSN693UnmLvDMvPbDmX7phD567L4XCLR you must send 0.01631878 BTC
To the address 1BKcqbfoyACtiJvXi32b12FD34vpkygabF you must send 0.01942712 BTC
To the address 1NASTa8xkLo9Q1BdnZnCju2dDd3oh2P7bj you must send 0.0115054 BTC
To the address 1MgH8iNkdZrDW8rsfzifDzsqJnCjBVyRBV you must send 0.0910352 BTC
To the address 1J9Q5CBnvBUWJ2knXC88norDukeZo19bVd you must send 0.19217473 BTC
To the address 1MxgtzW1nY4WoHqk5orAt5eHFuUJd3vf6t you must send 0.03414211 BTC
To the address 135HKPy3PuuVEKejbuABgkkCkRJhyj4na5 you must send 0.02044528 BTC
To the address 14QQRahvy248GNPyHmyAb3tQHv857fscGz you must send 0.05111528 BTC
To the address 15Gp6m3LGYhuZyXHXGxC2fAEgczKT2Dnnw you must send 0.01388283 BTC
To the address 1K7WwkMEcyXW7vsEGEccyJ5K3U28DqFu79 you must send 0.14125796 BTC
To the address 148k7UtdEqFz3zxkMkZTmDnHiX3PdRivC2 you must send 0.04847509 BTC
To the address 1Nhs5xGwgscNp3WDEFttf4LiEU5g5Y69t9 you must send 0.0270509 BTC
To the address 17jTfeBxcpaytgdoNLbMVJKJ4pJg9kp3oN you must send 0.01125172 BTC
To the address 1DvdNbm87dU8pfuAB6YVvnho4xZKi5N63T you must send 0.10157804 BTC
To the address 12VHbFDMooQabKqRFHvF9QJgeGGTZLFkHB you must send 0.08762832 BTC
To the address 12XhuZutPqEzhH1vJgCizoRCjmjbCme4M1 you must send 0.094138 BTC
To the address 18uigBTVRoRh7tjVR2D6uJtfMcqVvep3hU you must send 0.0210957 BTC
To the address 1MT56UWsgd6sJZ77KMdeAcjAPTrCCmtgA6 you must send 0.01507795 BTC
To the address 14XaMLzGyGaWAshT2Buc1szuD2deyCVZUH you must send 0.03725878 BTC
To the address 1AVb1PuguzpAL9zpufh5K2cS5C9CWn5U7t you must send 0.03394062 BTC
To the address 18bfke1mdqr1mjtHT7Npqu8nubiMLhUFCk you must send 0.01501609 BTC
To the address 1DMe8xchq6ChFcuJRz9EodHWjmR6ckofqq you must send 0.01022995 BTC
To the address 1LsRycmTQRnG5joE5vDdVWtd1JXbJP4KjR you must send 0.07783926 BTC
To the address 183G2Q6YrBCUYNovrNcx3NppP778YQkQ4P you must send 0.0441964 BTC
To the address 1DffxxdNVzAkuAEPJ837Lz8jfDhGSFNYxv you must send 0.05628737 BTC
To the address 1M3n4omjKjitKZHGrkg4HnnEssznk6qvUw you must send 0.02880902 BTC
To the address 1PcyxJHuEHJtwAdFM2Q8bviNtzxLgBXD2x you must send 0.02192766 BTC
To the address 1Ct9JJJ8Qd4o2bD6tZPdtPAEE7sqq8acS9 you must send 0.13816409 BTC
To the address 1PJLDy5fZeLtEZcmD3yt89huXp9rnveHdD you must send 0.103749 BTC
To the address 1p2pgZPyqFGVTVKmgWeunJvvHHqwbSk8B you must send 0.01894825 BTC
To the address 18fHEjVP8JAap8qQzLUdLoGWLSygnavHtB you must send 0.03089647 BTC
To the address 18uHiTGTPm2jtk8iAqmee9Xyn1jmgzPEw5 you must send 0.03009584 BTC
To the address 1LuE6ugvTU4zjNEYJ7WdRJj9MoP6HyDpn8 you must send 0.01609791 BTC
To the address 1CFs4D9WgUU6pznY7rgeMR3ieAjrJ8Tp4E you must send 0.03063947 BTC
To the address 14tokvB5dRv73A9veD4fz8sY6FX81p7srW you must send 0.01528374 BTC
To the address 1CgUQn592uSDyVqxShy8Pt2pZ7d9twGK9S you must send 0.11388394 BTC
To the address 12ixj2NmGhpGLZ4fnYj4hqbiBJtBqCocMs you must send 0.06432976 BTC
To the address 1D547dxKbQ2oo13CaepKPCWQ1uaq2hLcXk you must send 0.44566619 BTC
To the address 1Q8SUpfpnat6qyFQQqSFrsv59t1BqFfREC you must send 0.0251308 BTC
To the address 1NtnS4ohrXX1cLgA8tWD1x7uJ7uRhX4mtS you must send 0.13381846 BTC
To the address 1JpHzsSS2Z2jrf6uGiPkQJsUu1Fddzh47V you must send 0.0153269 BTC
To the address 1315conuYyckxA3sP81yGMmj5mz4WRwEsM you must send 0.01316634 BTC
To the address 13FQPYwvrXjWvxyzu9ZpiQsU4gaGECEQQ2 you must send 0.13437114 BTC
To the address 19HsZb8UxUjTkYsciCimbfG4CdYKvxL1cz you must send 0.02734842 BTC
To the address 19KQ7yizwAfL56ph2vYDwQDRM8Pu39SkuT you must send 0.09026726 BTC
To the address 1DycRURk3Mxgf8D79ouV8o4FeXXXGvcmLz you must send 0.34534612 BTC
To the address 1EcEmx5h9d3NGLJdCFdyaNXVbGDrPBmkaC you must send 0.02105185 BTC
To the address 1Mf4SBdgeHWP6X7sJyR5T6GG3G9johrZF9 you must send 0.04450809 BTC
To the address 1JVNni5979BNSNJkpb3ZL6mGWvgrxC6A7x you must send 0.01028041 BTC
To the address 19yRn7nT4wV67xtpC7wuySBKg1p1kAxMj2 you must send 0.03244017 BTC
To the address 1PKP55mQHdDqUUQDCyFhehmY3EiKt3252y you must send 0.05542955 BTC
To the address 14b5G5gHYjFHbFRXVYN5kmxcDxncgAURc4 you must send 0.01224364 BTC
To the address 1FcvkwJaNLzsH5n58Tn6Sao9TZf3GLmurz you must send 0.09368889 BTC
To the address 1CM5KrYZ1SEfqrSmWenenYiBNp7Av7t13V you must send 0.26644904 BTC
To the address 187aLkZSMpkw5ymjuvkRGcVp6KJCXENy3b you must send 0.01952965 BTC
To the address 1TWGaWG9PbxAGGhxFLeYpQvr6BN63jJ1B you must send 0.05084585 BTC
To the address 1BxMFidMTf6WRqSaLwJMWvTiZ57iYLLHPK you must send 0.0161861 BTC
To the address 1HSQQ9E3Kp25AdCnJH4jtLAQyzpoZtMtGJ you must send 0.0471069 BTC
To the address 1C9NyjTDmjX3a8EU58f6DPwqnTfsQRgwKr you must send 0.02958844 BTC
To the address 1L4fyJqCy5uLmoMo4cG74TaTvgtUwwSHJx you must send 0.04205772 BTC
To the address 1z4KU2ifXk6GrySSUZD2SvFmGptcX8XVa you must send 0.0277051 BTC
To the address 1ZorZor89Ls7AaB7TMmkE5ugA4LCH9KX7 you must send 0.01044357 BTC
To the address 1EZMh5fH33TFWLh6enwL86gam5LnEE2o4v you must send 0.05001703 BTC
To the address 14XnW5BK1F2xDcaEP6FZNHdTJAfRkyMR7S you must send 0.01451851 BTC
To the address 169K7XXPHDkmw1PypAfd48yVCcdaxzPbGp you must send 0.12018491 BTC

[ThiagoCMC]

I should have been more clear. It was directed at ThiagoCMC who kept giving me something I did not ask for. I'm waiting for a correct response and once the BTC is confirmed to be working I will send the coins. If not I will send them to you. Thanks.

I'm sorry... I tought that you knew what the "sendmany" Bitcoin command do...

It will just consult the P2Pool dynamically to get the Bitcoin Address of all current miners and, send one-time donation/transaction to all miners simultaneously.

If you are uncomfortable with this command, just send to me those 10 BTC and I'll resend it to the miners through that command.

Thanks!
Thiago

[ThiagoCMC]

Okay

[Rassah]

okay, if there is not a btc address i can just send the btc to never mind:(

i am not going to run some command i do not understand.

thanks anyway.

Sure there is!

To the address ...
...

Thanks for contributing!

Your calculations look a bit off. Address 14UEaiW2Rwqbv3iJAKVwjS6ZGZqaxp9c1Y should get at least twice, if not five times as much 

[terrytibbs]

Your calculations look a bit off. Address 14UEaiW2Rwqbv3iJAKVwjS6ZGZqaxp9c1Y should get at least twice, if not five times as much 

Ha! You wish.

[coretechs]

I will wait for the OP, and if that fails send it to Holliday. Thanks.

My script is still running and usually sends 1-2 BTC a day.  I keep the post updated daily, usually after the payment sends for the day.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=57027.msg704445#msg704445

[Cusipzzz]

I will wait for the OP, and if that fails send it to Holliday. Thanks.

Op here...You can send it to the address I listed in the OP where I am sending my donations from: 13XojBmkrR2pHKthehW8vfdcsjvKpbggfJ  - I will send it on from there.

Or I added the link to the coretechs process post as well.

Let's keep contributing, P2Pool is growing but should be bigger!

[cheat_2_win]

I haven't received any subsidy payments so far. I am curious about how the payout is given.

[cheat_2_win]

I haven't received any subsidy payments so far. I am curious about how the payout is given.

The smaller miners are entered into a lottery. I assume this has something to do with cutting down on the amount of very tiny transactions that these small miners would get when 1 Bitcoin is divided among all of the miners in P2Pool.

Then, I should just wait for my lucky day .

[Boognish]

I've been on P2Pool for about a week, started at around 350MHs now up to about 750.  Are these just part of our normal payouts or something separate.  If they're separate, I sure haven't received one.  But it has only been a week.

[Boognish]

A few posts above yours.

Yes, I had read that but I thought I saw somewhere else that it only applied to miners with regular payouts <.01 as seen here http://yat.uukgoblin.net/p2pool-stats/current_payouts.html but I probably misread it.  Anyway, just hope my personal luck picks up.  I'm coming up on 14 hours with no personal shares found.  Oh well, back to work.  This is just for fun anyway.

[Boognish]

You remember correctly. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61131.msg685169#msg685169

Hah! So I do, then I guess it's because I haven't been here too long.  Even with my current dry streak, I'm still well above .01 payouts.

Thanks

[arvinrajsinghgill]

If i read correctly, i don't have to register or make my presence known to receive the subsidy?

All i have to do is mine under p2pool?

[ThiagoCMC]

And another .5 for 10 days to join coretechs if someone can tell me how to do it from a gui wallet.

You could trust my cron job to do it for you.  

It will send a fixed amount once per day at a random time to miners at p2pool.  The amount is based on the balance at the following address:

BTC ADDR REMOVED

Any donations to this address will be sent to the p2pool miners

The job script is dynamic and sends a fixed amount based on the balance of the address in the wallet.

1-10 balance -  1 BTC per day
10-99 balance - 2 BTC per day
100-999 balance - 3 BTC per day
etc.

This should work for now.  I can change the daily amount later if a lot of people start donating.  I will fund it with the remaining 9 BTC of my pledge later this evening.  If I decide to stop the job from running at any point, the remaining balance will be sent to all miners in the pool at that time.  I just set this up to take care of my donations so I don't have to send them manually but I figured why not open it up to anyone else.

(1/20/12): 9 BTC sent.  You can track the deposits here ("Received"): http://blockexplorer.com/address/**BTC ADDR REMOVED**
(1/21/12): had to do some wallet cleanup, address now shows correct balance of XX.XXX  (XX BTC - X BTC & txn fees)
(1/24/12): donation history updated, current balance is XX.XXXXYYYY
(1/26/12): added some better logging that I will include in the donation history going forward
(2/7/12): minor network issue last night prevented the donation from being sent, so two payments were sent this morning
(2/8/12): made some changes to the script to adjust the timing intervals, additional payment sent yesterday
 
Donation history
---------------

.............

Hi coretechs!

 Can you share your "donation script" with us?!

 I want to setup the same scheme for the Litecoin P2Pool miners...

 Right now, I just put a cronjob to donate everyday the same amount, at the same time of day... But I would like to have the same behavior of your setup, I mean, send donations according to the balance, etc...

Thanks!
Thiago

[coretechs]

Hi coretechs!

 Can you share your "donation script" with us?!

 I want to setup the same scheme for the Litecoin P2Pool miners...

 Right now, I just put a cronjob to donate everyday the same amount, at the same time of day... But I would like to have the same behavior of your setup, I mean, send donations according to the balance, etc...

Thanks!
Thiago

Sure, here you go:

Code:

# p2pdonate.sh
sleep `echo $(( $RANDOM % 1440 * 60))`
./bitcoind sendmany "p2p_donations" "$(GET http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=`echo "(\`echo "(\\\`./bitcoind getbalance p2p_donations\\\`+0.5)/1"|bc|wc -m\`-1)"|bc`.0)" >> donation.log

This script assumes that you have bitcoind running as a server with an account called "p2p_donations" but it's easy enough to change.  Just schedule it to run at midnight, the sleep command will delay the execution randomly up to 24hrs.  It counts the number of digits in the whole number balance of the account and sends that many BTC, appending the transaction id to a log file.

0-9 balance - 1 BTC
10-99 balance - 2 BTC
100-999 balance - 3 BTC
etc

Disclaimer: *Run at your own risk.  I take no responsibility for anything that happens if you run this code.  It works on my computer but it may not work on yours.*

[Elmojo]

If i read correctly, i don't have to register or make my presence known to receive the subsidy?

All i have to do is mine under p2pool?

Correct. Well, you have to supply P2Pool with a bitcoin address to mine. That is all.

I'm trying to start mining in P2Pool, but this part is fuzzy to me.
Where do I "supply P2Pool with a bitcoin address to mine".
Does that get added to the .conf file?
I'm confused (and a little slow)
Elmojo

[ancow]

If i read correctly, i don't have to register or make my presence known to receive the subsidy?

All i have to do is mine under p2pool?

Correct. Well, you have to supply P2Pool with a bitcoin address to mine. That is all.

I'm trying to start mining in P2Pool, but this part is fuzzy to me.
Where do I "supply P2Pool with a bitcoin address to mine".
Does that get added to the .conf file?
I'm confused (and a little slow)
Elmojo

Questions about p2pool should be asked there: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=18313.660

You don't have to supply p2pool with with an address; it'll ask your bitcoind for one if you don't specify it. If you want to mine to a specific address, add the "-a <address>" parameter.
You are eligible for a subsidy as long as you submitted a p2pool share within the last 24h.

[Elmojo]

Gotcha, thanks.
Sorry for the mis-post in the wrong thread, thanks for answering anyway.

[ancow]

Gotcha, thanks.
Sorry for the mis-post in the wrong thread, thanks for answering anyway.

No problem. Since both threads are about p2pool in a way and the question started on-topic, I don't think it was a big deal, I just pointed you to the other thread because I think you'll get faster and possibly better answers there...

[1Pakis]

I mine with p2pool since Friday noon and haven't received a bitcent or even less.
myaddress is 197giRXjySrTqyiaccyrw4UEu66Zc5Yymf and it appears in all of blocks mined yesterday and today.
Can someone explain to me why?

[ThiagoCMC]

Hi coretechs!

 Can you share your "donation script" with us?!

 I want to setup the same scheme for the Litecoin P2Pool miners...

 Right now, I just put a cronjob to donate everyday the same amount, at the same time of day... But I would like to have the same behavior of your setup, I mean, send donations according to the balance, etc...

Thanks!
Thiago

Sure, here you go:

Code:

# p2pdonate.sh
sleep `echo $(( $RANDOM % 1440 * 60))`
./bitcoind sendmany "p2p_donations" "$(GET http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=`echo "(\`echo "(\\\`./bitcoind getbalance p2p_donations\\\`+0.5)/1"|bc|wc -m\`-1)"|bc`.0)" >> donation.log

This script assumes that you have bitcoind running as a server with an account called "p2p_donations" but it's easy enough to change.  Just schedule it to run at midnight, the sleep command will delay the execution randomly up to 24hrs.  It counts the number of digits in the whole number balance of the account and sends that many BTC, appending the transaction id to a log file.

0-9 balance - 1 BTC
10-99 balance - 2 BTC
100-999 balance - 3 BTC
etc

Disclaimer: *Run at your own risk.  I take no responsibility for anything that happens if you run this code.  It works on my computer but it may not work on yours.*

Thank you!!!   

[1Pakis]

I mine with p2pool since Friday noon and haven't received a bitcent or even less.
myaddress is 197giRXjySrTqyiaccyrw4UEu66Zc5Yymf and it appears in all of blocks mined yesterday and today.
Can someone explain to me why?

That address has indeed been paid for the blocks that P2Pool found. The problem seems to be you aren't seeing it in your balance.

Is this address in the wallet of the client that you are using to mine with P2Pool or did you specify another address?

It is an address of my mtgox account.
I check it from blockexplorer blockchain.info and mtgox and i see no other payments except from what is generated from the blocks we find.

[1Pakis]

So what is my problem?
why don't I appear in http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=1 ?

[thirdlight]

It is an address of my mtgox account.

Are mtgox accounts ok with "generation" transactions? Some online wallets don't like those.

[gmaxwell]

There is a small miner pool built into the send many. People who are below a certain point are entered into a lottery and one person randomly gets the reward. This is to cut down on very many very small transactions.

Or change the threshold to 0: http://forre.st:9332/patron_sendmany?total=1&thresh=0. The default threshold is 0.01 (people who would be paid under 0.01 are in the 'lottery'), because outputs below 0.01 will result in needing a fee.

[1Pakis]

It is an address of my mtgox account.

Are mtgox accounts ok with "generation" transactions? Some online wallets don't like those.

Never had a problem up to now with more than 20 transactions.
In blockchain.info I can see mtgox is moving some amounts out of this address but my balance doesn't change after the moves nor this moves appear inside my mtgox transaction log.

[twmz]

Someone made a donation to the address I list on p2pool.info.  Over the next few days, I will be sending it to the p2pool miners using the patron_sendmany algorithm.  

Here is the list of transactions:

2/28/12 - http://blockchain.info/tx/7f5658c8cd2868cfc87e1ed921be74b80c06b0cb8c60b98fa709b0a23d971c31
2/29/12 - http://blockchain.info/tx/02cfe0ee7caa9342127b6c2255e22033c386bc9863da9e837e45c0e3bb7ddbca

[DeathAndTaxes]

Setting up one server for multiple miners isn't that much more work.  I think the bigger issue, and it is more easily solved, is monitoring.  I think a monitoring tool like BAMT's mgpumon would really help push some farms over, especially if it could send out alerts of idle miners (like many pools do).  I'll put up 5BTC for any monitor that I can access over ssh with a browser to monitor rigs running cgminer to a single p2pool node. And another .5 for 10 days to join coretechs if someone can tell me how to do it from a gui wallet.

EDITED

This.  Trying to cram p2pool and blockchain into BAMT or Linuxcoin is hugely wasteful, complicated and likely going to lead to all kinds of problems.  Anyone suggesting it likely doesn't have more than 1 or 2 rigs.

Most large miners have a setup like this:

BAMT on rig #1  \
BAMT on rig #2   \
BAMT on rig #3    \
...                        /  ------> conventional mining pool
BAMT on rig #11  /
BAMT on rig #12 /

Having 12 copies of block chain and 12 instances of p2pool and 12 payment address (or yet another thing to configure across 12 machines) make absolutely no sense when you can do this

BAMT on rig #1  \
BAMT on rig #2   \
BAMT on rig #3    \
...                        /  ------> machine on the LAN running p2pool (or public p2pool instance)
BAMT on rig #11  /
BAMT on rig #12 /

For the same reason cgminer integration is likely a dead end.  Anyone with 2+ rigs is better served by having a "p2pool" machine.  It doesn't even need to be a mining rig.

[twmz]

Another payment sent.

Here is the list of transactions:

2/28/12 - http://blockchain.info/tx/7f5658c8cd2868cfc87e1ed921be74b80c06b0cb8c60b98fa709b0a23d971c31
2/29/12 - http://blockchain.info/tx/02cfe0ee7caa9342127b6c2255e22033c386bc9863da9e837e45c0e3bb7ddbca

[twmz]

Yep.  Another one.

Here is the list of transactions:

2/28/12 - http://blockchain.info/tx/7f5658c8cd2868cfc87e1ed921be74b80c06b0cb8c60b98fa709b0a23d971c31
2/29/12 - http://blockchain.info/tx/02cfe0ee7caa9342127b6c2255e22033c386bc9863da9e837e45c0e3bb7ddbca
3/1/12 - http://blockchain.info/tx/3e49a6f271ed1ebc82b39fc892e87aac3dc9481f0dc0e6a9b04d8b905b57c09c
3/3/12 - http://blockchain.info/tx/0ffc8923090ba663408a4aad89dca71d0d9d487ef05bea129dda43774eb70a2f

[tiberiandusk]

Is anyone still doing this?

[K1773R]

nope

[ninjaboon]

nope

2bad. I've just updated the p2pool client to v8.2

[K1773R]

nope

2bad. I've just updated the p2pool client to v8.2

still worth it, soon there will be less orphans

[K1773R]

i think subsidys could atract new miners (since we need more GH) to p2pool, anyone interested in reviving this?

[PatMan]

Sounds great. I'd be willing to take a bribe/bung/payoff or whatever you want to call it to come back & mine there. But it would have to be an ongoing thing, say, a weekly payment that will cover my losses compared to mining at a functional pool.

I'd also want my frontal lobotomy paid for. Up front of course......

[Gavin Andresen]

I just used some bitcoins from the Bitcoin Faucet fund to compensate the p2pool miners who's block was orphaned in the Big Chain Fork.

Transaction id 6521b0513f3077a983b82eb92cc95ecc24ad2a7ca3afdba082ef71ea8d25a868

PS: this was a one-time thing, don't expect orphan blockss in the future to get paid for!

[gyverlb]

I just used some bitcoins from the Bitcoin Faucet fund to compensate the p2pool miners who's block was orphaned in the Big Chain Fork.

Transaction id 6521b0513f3077a983b82eb92cc95ecc24ad2a7ca3afdba082ef71ea8d25a868

PS: this was a one-time thing, don't expect orphan blockss in the future to get paid for!

I must say this was unexpected and a very pleasant surprise. Thanks !

[K1773R]

I just used some bitcoins from the Bitcoin Faucet fund to compensate the p2pool miners who's block was orphaned in the Big Chain Fork.

Transaction id 6521b0513f3077a983b82eb92cc95ecc24ad2a7ca3afdba082ef71ea8d25a868

PS: this was a one-time thing, don't expect orphan blockss in the future to get paid for!

thanks gavin

[lenny_]

Thanks!

[ttf0]

Why is it that p2pool is (as stated in an earlier post on this topic) considered to incur more losses than other pools?  I thought it was marginally better .. wonder which is right? ;-)

[Rabinovitch]

To encourage users to use P2Pool, I'm sending 1-3btc every 24hrs to all the miners on P2Pool (proportionally).

I wish that someone did the same these days...