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Question: As an ActiveMining shareholder, I want to be able to trade shares on...  (Voting closed: April 15, 2014, 10:03:12 PM)
CT - 11 (13.3%)
HL - 55 (66.3%)
CC or similar - 13 (15.7%)
Direct - 0 (0%)
None, I'm a troll! - 4 (4.8%)
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April 14, 2014, 10:03:12 PM
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This is a 24 hour poll whereby the results will remain hidden until completion.

Hopefully these results will provide CEO, Ken Slaughter a valuable gauge on the opinions of his shareholders and allow him an opportunity to make an informed decision prior to this weeks shareholder update.



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April 14, 2014, 11:21:19 PM
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First of all, not Cryptostocks, which has already been completely hacked on more than one occasion , and operator already defrauding user for long time, just the latest scammy antics are here.: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=569037.new#new

to use cryptostocks will be like keeping your money on mtgox or inputs, it's not responsible as asset issuer and not fair to a shareholder to ignore such warning signs. balances are at risk.

I don't think you'll run into huge problems with Havelock in near future although sec for sure will be interested in getting their mitts on operators. but they are smooth and reliable up until now and keep low profile, because they already know the risks. biggest issue there right now is expensive hosting fees which will eat into your profits.

Direct is good, although trading will be a headache(you will be mostly stuck with holding), Ken will perhaps need full-time staff member to update spreadsheets and do correct due-diligence on any share transfer or modification requests, there will be some fraud attempts.

Colored coins is OK, but mostly a pipe dream, closest is the prism implementation, The best of both worlds, CounterParty is ready and active right now.. https://counterwallet.co/

It will cost ken just shy of 70 cents to list his asset, there is not a risk of a random exchange 'hot/cold wallet breach' no risk of exchange operator playing fractional reserve on your balances.

Dividends in BTC are sent DIRECTLY to shareholders. (NO middle men. & no requirement of XCP tokens)  Shareholders are free to trade their shares at any time.


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April 14, 2014, 11:37:54 PM
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Cheers man!  It really is great to see someone new join the discussion.  Some great thoughts there, although you've confused CS (Crypto-Stocks (where a relatively small number of ActM shares are listed afaik)) with CT (Crypto-Trade) where, it seems nearly 10,000,000 shares could be located very soon, unless Ken is convinced otherwise.  There's no easy answer when it comes to using any centralised solution for our decentralised needs.  These are challenging times for those, with honour, who want to do good, and easy pickings for those who seek to destabilise our community.

EDIT:  So would you suggest that a low profile exchange might be the short to mid term answer for us?

If so, then maybe there is a case for Crypto-Trade (who don't have a big radar ping yet) over Havelock who certainly do, albeit it with some sort of money transmitting license now.
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April 14, 2014, 11:43:16 PM
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This thread is fairly representative of the whole ActM investor mentality.  A sane person, learning that an account takes less than a minute to create, would instantly realize the absurdity of this "vote."  But let's ignore that and dig up some moar lulz.

Who here thinks that the only reason you're not trading now is Ken couldn't make up his mind about which exchange to choose, and he's just too shy to ask?  
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April 15, 2014, 03:30:40 AM
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Just stick with crypto trade and stop complicating things.    This poll is totally puttijg the cart before the horse.

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April 15, 2014, 04:41:16 AM
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The massive sell orders already on CT will send the price plummeting within 2 minutes. This is why hastings would be better because it's more liquid. That said, liquidity works both ways up and down.
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April 15, 2014, 11:30:54 AM
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Hastings?!?! Geez.  No wonder how Obama got in to be pres.

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April 15, 2014, 12:09:32 PM
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OP - PM the poll to Ken - he is very likely to look at it and regardless of whether or not he ultimately goes with havelock, he will at the very least absorb investor sentiment.

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April 15, 2014, 10:06:42 PM
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Okay, will do.
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April 15, 2014, 10:32:27 PM
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Havelock.  Good...  Good...
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April 16, 2014, 03:24:06 AM
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I don't believe HL does PT's or orphan transfers after NEO and COG. They'd be wise to stay away from AMC in any case.
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April 16, 2014, 12:46:24 PM
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It's now stealing from HashFast customers...

VMC improves HashFast's liquidity, Hashfast finally starts shipping Batch 2 Sierras.... so if by stealing you mean enabling hashfast customers to get the hardware they paid for instead of a nickel on the dollar class action settlement, then yes, we stole, sorry hashfast customers.




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VMC improves HashFast's liquidity, Hashfast finally starts shipping Batch 2 Sierras.... so if by stealing you mean enabling hashfast customers to get the hardware they paid for instead of a nickel on the dollar class action settlement, then yes, we stole, sorry hashfast customers.

So with Hashfast's liquid assets frozen by a Judge it was ACtM's business coin that has allowed Hashfast to keep trading and supply it's customers? Nice, I like that. That's what can happen when businesses in the same market place network and support each other rather than attack each other - mutual benefits. I'm sure Ken got a great deal on the chips, and the board design plans.
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April 16, 2014, 03:24:28 PM
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It's your alcoholic CEO Ken who's under investigation for securities fraud, sorry if you're trying to forget Undecided
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April 16, 2014, 03:36:00 PM
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Crowd funding is now legal and encouraged in the US. Only one person I know of is running an unlicenced Securities Exchange and that is you Mircea Popescu.


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April 16, 2014, 03:56:08 PM
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Pretty hilarious that you're obsessing with some Romanian d00d while your own CEO, Ken Slaughter, is being investigated by Missouri Securities Division.
How's that going, BTW, noticed that Ken doesn't like to chat about that much.  Everything good?
Still trying to put them lulzy virtual profit shares on virtually any exchange?
Good luck! Smiley

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Think he'll fall for it?

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April 16, 2014, 05:35:59 PM
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Pretty hilarious that you are obsessing over some mining company in the US Mirceau which has a very limited impact on all things MPExy when you should be trying to stay away from harming legitimate US businesses.

The ultimate hilarity will be when you put yourself in prison completely unnecessarily due to your arrogance and huge bloated ego. You could have done so well, nice little exchange, it could have made you a few coins and you could have been a free man able to spend them. When you are penniless in a harsh US prison regime and btc is at 10k oh how you will kick yourself!!!

Why bother to pretend yet are not Mirceau when you have blogged about this?!?!?
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April 16, 2014, 06:59:18 PM
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I would prefer Colored Coins, but the tech is not ready IMO.  Havelock would be the best bet other than CC, but we take a risk being propped up on a centralized exchange.  At this point, what's another risk?  Well, we could lose everything but does it beat the alternative of not being able to trade anything?  I guess so...I think that Havelock is better than nothing right now although I believe it should be traded out for CC when the tech is ready.
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