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January 08, 2012, 01:11:40 PM
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Hi,

Using the bitcoin 0.5.1 client, with a new bitcoin datadir and blockchain I had 0.001BTC sent to one of my addresses, and there are no other transactions.

The client shows 0.004 for that transaction.

The client shows no other transactions.

pywallet -dumpwallet shows no other transaction.

Blockexplorer shows the address as having 0.001BTC.

a -rescan does not change this. What do I actually have and how can I find out? I'm running on Windows.



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January 08, 2012, 02:48:05 PM
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What is the address and what is the transaction?

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January 08, 2012, 03:33:46 PM
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Bruce,


address:  1EWutuYe5kkpfQ8KuNhwgDuzbau2sWzYFo
              http://blockexplorer.com/address/1EWutuYe5kkpfQ8KuNhwgDuzbau2sWzYFo

tx:          http://blockexplorer.com/tx/0ed42aaecd3a704ebea81ac16ffb5ce3b784c58aef2e93aabf064a1955b3c366#o208

should I try each of the other keys from the dumpwallet output to see if they contain the +.003?

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January 08, 2012, 03:36:05 PM
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My name is Burt (damn I need to change my username I guess).  No relation to Bruce.

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January 08, 2012, 03:40:20 PM
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Were you sent 0.001 by that same person at the same time to different addresses?

That transaction is a "send many" transaction. If more than one of the transaction outputs goes to you, they are lumped together into the same transaction by the satoshi client.

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January 08, 2012, 03:41:48 PM
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My name is Burt (damn I need to change my username I guess).  No relation to Bruce.

oops. Sorry, got used to reading about bruce and misread the username...

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January 08, 2012, 03:43:09 PM
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This is the last straw - I am checking into seeing if I can get it changed  Smiley

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January 08, 2012, 04:14:45 PM
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Were you sent 0.001 by that same person at the same time to different addresses?

That transaction is a "send many" transaction. If more than one of the transaction outputs goes to you, they are lumped together into the same transaction by the satoshi client.

So far I've found 0.004 from

208 | Not yet redeemed | 0.001 | 161167 | http://blockexplorer.com/address/1EWutuYe5kkpfQ8KuNhwgDuzbau2sWzYFo
223 | Not yet redeemed | 0.001 | 161167 | http://blockexplorer.com/address/1FZ5GXuoJ4VkRqY7ri26kQs3iM633dS9kT
224 | Not yet redeemed | 0.001 | 161167 | http://blockexplorer.com/address/1G8c9NzvyrU8p97y9WMkNfncoquoUeuXyq
317 | Not yet redeemed | 0.001 | 161167 | http://blockexplorer.com/address/1P7yR6FL9NyXPTw6t8ZygJTQJpzgZzWT1R

So, 4 x 0.001 tx from a single originator each of which were sent to 4 different addresses. How is it determined that 0.004 is shown as a single tx and how does it determine that it was for the 1EW.. address? Just because it is first?



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January 08, 2012, 04:19:31 PM
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So, 4 x 0.001 tx from a single originator each of which were sent to 4 different addresses. How is it determined that 0.004 is shown as a single tx and how does it determine that it was for the 1EW.. address? Just because it is first?

and does this accumulation apply to other clients not just the mainstream client.

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January 08, 2012, 05:24:29 PM
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This is the last straw - I am checking into seeing if I can get it changed  Smiley

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January 08, 2012, 06:42:06 PM
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The system deems this all as one transaction because it was sent by the sender that way.

Sendmany's are rare and are often used to do bulk distribution of bitcoins with minimum transaction fees, it also cuts down on the number of kb's the transaction takes. I load casascius coins with sendmany.  The idea that one transaction contained 0.004 to you - even if spread across 4 transactions - is a reasonable view for a client to take, that is how the network sees it, it is one transaction on the network of which 0.004 is yours.

Companies claiming they got hacked and lost your coins sounds like fraud so perfect it could be called fashionable.  I never believe them.  If I ever experience the misfortune of a real intrusion, I declare I have been honest about the way I have managed the keys in Casascius Coins.  I maintain no ability to recover or reproduce the keys, not even under limitless duress or total intrusion.  Remember that trusting strangers with your coins without any recourse is, as a matter of principle, not a best practice.  Don't keep coins online. Use paper wallets instead.
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