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January 25, 2012, 07:58:09 PM
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Well I put in 150 BTC, got out 155, and am now playing with profits and have an extra 10 BTC in there so even if they run with my money I'm satisfied

hehe , you were one of the brave ones. 
funny how almost everybody yelled SCAM SCAM from day 1 but still put in their coins just in case its legit...

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January 27, 2012, 01:01:09 PM
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We're currently refactoring the whole code in favor of a faster platform. Will update the thread very soon!
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January 27, 2012, 05:48:26 PM
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We're currently refactoring the whole code in favor of a faster platform. Will update the thread very soon!
And there was much rejoicing.
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January 28, 2012, 08:48:24 AM
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I have written a thread about BitScalper and I highly advise that everyone read it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61505

TL;DR:

Do not let this community suffer through another MyBitcoin. Let's kindly and quietly raise our standards and show these so called 'businesses' how it's done.

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January 28, 2012, 08:53:46 AM
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January 28, 2012, 11:56:16 AM
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I have written a thread about BitScalper and I highly advise that everyone read it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61505

Thank you for the insider-leads.
Interesting how many people have similar experiences with the whole topic.  Good thing those bits are collected here..
I only keep the small gainings I made in my BS account, to closely watch the stats and numbers..

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January 28, 2012, 06:08:05 PM
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some new bits:

I just sent a small amount from MtGox to my BS account. It didnt show up in blockexplorer but was still balanced.
So its obvious that the BS account addresses are from a MtGox account(s).

Consequently:
They can work with the balance even without moving the "physical" coins from that address.
If and when the "physical" coins transferred to these addresses are moved has nothing to do with BS any more.

Therefore, I dont see the bitcoin-moving-behavior as suspicious any more.

This does not prove that BS is legit, but explains my biggest argument.

Of course it rises the question why BS didnt tell this some weeks ago? Seems like they are not as knowledgeable about the details of their project as I would wish..

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And there are still several questions never answered by BS. For example, #358 "why does the payout % change with balance?"

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January 29, 2012, 12:33:10 AM
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some new bits:

I just sent a small amount from MtGox to my BS account. It didnt show up in blockexplorer but was still balanced.
So its obvious that the BS account addresses are from a MtGox account(s).

Consequently:
They can work with the balance even without moving the "physical" coins from that address.
If and when the "physical" coins transferred to these addresses are moved has nothing to do with BS any more.

Therefore, I dont see the bitcoin-moving-behavior as suspicious any more.

This does not prove that BS is legit, but explains my biggest argument.

Of course it rises the question why BS didnt tell this some weeks ago? Seems like they are not as knowledgeable about the details of their project as I would wish..

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And there are still several questions never answered by BS. For example, #358 "why does the payout % change with balance?"

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I go with the assumption that all businesses are legit, but that there are risks doing business with any business.  For example, a disgruntled employee can steal their bitcon wallet, or their server host can crash leaving them inoperable.  Until they have a terms of service that outlines these risks then I won't do business with them.

If Bitcoin can be an open source project then so can businesses that use Bitcoin.

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January 29, 2012, 03:08:59 AM
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1) Not sure if it is a scam or not.
2) It is like watching paint dry.
3) Cashed out for now with a small profit.
4) May come back later if it is still here.

Here is how I did:

Code:
Date          Wallet
1/11/2012    -1.000000000
1/11/2012    -1.000000000
1/13/2012     2.027683500
1/13/2012   -10.000000000
1/23/2012    -9.000000000
1/28/2012    19.939362460
             ------------
Gain          0.967045960

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January 29, 2012, 03:13:11 AM
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1) Not sure if it is a scam or not.
2) It is like watching paint dry.
3) Cashed out for now with a small profit.
4) May come back later if it is still here.

Here is how I did:

Code:
Date          Wallet
1/11/2012    -1.000000000
1/11/2012    -1.000000000
1/13/2012     2.027683500
1/13/2012   -10.000000000
1/23/2012    -9.000000000
1/28/2012    19.939362460
             ------------
Gain          0.967045960


I did better than than that here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61577.msg719723#msg719723

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January 29, 2012, 03:48:21 AM
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Sorry for taking long to update the thread. We've completed the migration of the trading engine to node.js. The new backend is now live and here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZUuokn8YoU you can see a video of the monitoring scripts in action. Everything is powered by node.js/socket.io and blazing fast. Profits should reflect the upgrade in performances as well, and we will be exiting the beta soon.
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January 29, 2012, 03:52:08 AM
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Sorry for taking long to update the thread. We've completed the migration of the trading engine to node.js. The new backend is now live and here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZUuokn8YoU you can see a video of the monitoring scripts in action. Everything is powered by node.js/socket.io and blazing fast. Profits should reflect the upgrade in performances and we will be exiting the beta soon.

This doesn't prove anything other than that you've learned how to use a socket connection to a public exchange that offers a public API. Congratulations.


I have written a thread about BitScalper and I highly advise that everyone read it.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61505

TL;DR:

Do not let this community suffer through another MyBitcoin. Let's kindly and quietly raise our standards and show these so called 'businesses' how it's done.

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January 29, 2012, 04:01:09 AM
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Vladimir Marchenko, a member of our organization put it best I think:

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As long as this guy is anonymous, there is nothing to talk about. Risk assesment for anything above some trivial BTC amount is off the chart.

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January 29, 2012, 04:02:04 AM
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Matthew, i do believe that you do not have any authority for asking our source codes. What i agreed with you was showing our codebase, with some of the sensitive parts removed. You refused and acted like a mafia boss by threating us of being shutdown, and now this. Do you go to your bank and ask for their trading algos ? i doubt so. Also, do you see that withdrawals are processing correctly? we are not a scam, and not running away. there are just a few  hundreds bitcoin in the fund now.
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January 29, 2012, 04:06:06 AM
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Vladimir Marchenko, a member of our organization put it best I think:

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As long as this guy is anonymous, there is nothing to talk about. Risk assesment for anything above some trivial BTC amount is off the chart.

Well Matthew, you guys are free to do whatever you'd like to. If you still want, i can show you what we agreed before. Let me know.
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January 29, 2012, 04:07:14 AM
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A few hundred thousand bitcoins you say? That would be very easy to pay out pretending to be making money. If you truly were trading with this volume at arbitrage there would be no difference in prices between the exchanges. I am sorry but I call bullshit.

One only needs to look at the market depth at Crypto X Change to see that there is no arbitrage going on there. Last night for example the highest bit was $4.90 which is a huge opportunity. They accept MTGox codes directly so this would work perfectly.

I am sorry folks but anything that sounds too good to be true usually is. I completely agree with Matthew in his 99% risk factor analysis of this site.
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January 29, 2012, 04:10:01 AM
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Another point to consider; If the site owner is so concerned about being anonymous with the volume he claims he would have had to verify at MTGox and other exchanges. Their AML policies are pretty strict and its very easy to trigger a verification. Anonymous in this type of business only means that he is taking your money. If anyone has money in here I would advise to get it out immediately.
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January 29, 2012, 04:11:30 AM
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A few hundred thousand bitcoins you say? That would be very easy to pay out pretending to be making money. If you truly were trading with this volume at arbitrage there would be no difference in prices between the exchanges. I am sorry but I call bullshit.

One only needs to look at the market depth at Crypto X Change to see that there is no arbitrage going on there. Last night for example the highest bit was $4.90 which is a huge opportunity. They accept MTGox codes directly so this would work perfectly.

I am sorry folks but anything that sounds too good to be true usually is. I completely agree with Matthew in his 99% risk factor analysis of this site.

Now considerably diminished after matthew diffused panic, the fund topped at 4k bitcoin on some days.
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January 29, 2012, 04:12:22 AM
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Another point to consider; If the site owner is so concerned about being anonymous with the volume he claims he would have had to verify at MTGox and other exchanges. Their AML policies are pretty strict and its very easy to trigger a verification. Anonymous in this type of business only means that he is taking your money. If anyone has money in here I would advise to get it out immediately.

I'm verified with mtgox of course. You are just diffusing panic.
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January 29, 2012, 04:15:53 AM
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Another point to consider; If the site owner is so concerned about being anonymous with the volume he claims he would have had to verify at MTGox and other exchanges. Their AML policies are pretty strict and its very easy to trigger a verification. Anonymous in this type of business only means that he is taking your money. If anyone has money in here I would advise to get it out immediately.

I'm verified with mtgox of course. You are just diffusing panic.

Translation: Don't take out all your coins or I will be found out!

What are you going to do when MTGox reports your $10K+ operations on your income taxes? If you are so concerned about remaining anonymous then the verification at MTGox goes against that.
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