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January 14, 2012, 12:34:30 AM
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the 2000BTCs I deposited there.

Do you play russian roulette as well?

No, he is a master troll who has successfully trolled you..


Hehe.  In all seriousness.  This seems sketch.  I hope everyone is being very careful.
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January 14, 2012, 12:37:36 AM
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January 14, 2012, 01:19:07 AM
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Is that shopped?  If not that's crazy
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January 14, 2012, 01:26:20 AM
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dont you see that is over 9000  ?  trolololol

html edited look there is no today earnings and also there is no records found

this is real though... im taking the plunge, every penny i own, hope this works  Undecided


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January 14, 2012, 01:32:46 AM
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January 14, 2012, 01:38:13 AM
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This thread sounds like it should belong in the Gambling subsection  Grin

edit: placed 0.509~ btc left over from pool to bitscalper just to see the effects  Cheesy

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January 14, 2012, 01:54:48 AM
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Lets assume for a moment that this is legit.  What kind of scalping algorithms could preserve the value (low risk) and also yield such high returns?  In order to preserve the value you could not convert into other currencies for more than a few seconds.  The longer you hold other currencies, the more risk you incur.  Selling on one exchange and transferring fiat to another exchange seems out of the question.  Holding fiat and waiting for buying opportunities imo is an unacceptable risk, and would never work in a bull market.

So here is one profit scenario.

Scenario 1
There is a large sell order executed on Gox.  Since you have access to smaller exchanges where the price lags, you immediately sell there, wait for the price to begin moving to catch up with Gox, then quickly buy back (before your exposure goes up).  The move must be great enough to close the spread and then some (in a short enough time frame).  You will have to know what typical lag times are on that exchange and be able to beat them.

Scenario 2
When there is an upward spike on one of the smaller exchanges, you sell and then quickly buy back as the price comes back down.

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Both these scenarios produce a net downward pressure on the market.

Both these scenarios assume that the price will gravitate rather quickly toward the Gox price.  They also assume you have access to fast apis on the smaller exchanges.  Which exchanges have fast apis?  Tradehill?

And this perhaps begs the question.  Does the designer of bitscalper have exclusive access to a fast api on a smaller exchange.


EDIT: I thought scalping was synonymous with arbitrage.

Scenario 3
Have BTC and USD on two exchanges.  When price is higher on exchange 1: sell on exchange 1, buy on exchange 2.  When price is higher on exchange 2: sell on exchange 2, but on exchange 1.  Rebalance the USD/BTC as necessary.

Too much risk.  You will loose bitcoin in a bear market like today - when both exchanges are moving down.
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January 14, 2012, 01:57:29 AM
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This is literally what it says on my account. I deposited some coins, withdrew them right away after getting spooked, but kept on accumulating "interest" anyway. Then I went ahead and withdrew that. Now I got this.   Definitely a ponzi.
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January 14, 2012, 02:05:42 AM
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Too much risk.  You will loose bitcoin in a bear market like today - when both exchanges are moving down.

I sell 100 BTC for $6.5 on exchange 1 and at the same time buy 100 BTC for $6.4.  I only make these trades based on existing orders with a minimum profit to cover rebalancing the funds.  I just made $10 with only seconds of price vulnerability.  I don't how I could lose BTC unless I got ridiculously unlucky.  I've even done it by hand a few times.  If you have to wait for the funds to rebalance in between trades there is risk, but if you only trade when you have funds ready to go on both exchanges you can do well when one market moves strongly.

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January 14, 2012, 04:10:46 AM
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yeah but then you lose 6 of those 10 dollars to commission
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January 14, 2012, 05:16:46 AM
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Too much risk.  You will loose bitcoin in a bear market like today - when both exchanges are moving down.

I sell 100 BTC for $6.5 on exchange 1 and at the same time buy 100 BTC for $6.4.  I only make these trades based on existing orders with a minimum profit to cover rebalancing the funds.  I just made $10 with only seconds of price vulnerability.  I don't how I could lose BTC unless I got ridiculously unlucky.  I've even done it by hand a few times.  If you have to wait for the funds to rebalance in between trades there is risk, but if you only trade when you have funds ready to go on both exchanges you can do well when one market moves strongly.

The problem here is that you have to hold fiat while you wait for an arbitrage opportunity.  While you're waiting, your fiat could loose value against bitcoin.  Who takes that loss?
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January 14, 2012, 05:21:34 AM
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Too much risk.  You will loose bitcoin in a bear market like today - when both exchanges are moving down.

I sell 100 BTC for $6.5 on exchange 1 and at the same time buy 100 BTC for $6.4.  I only make these trades based on existing orders with a minimum profit to cover rebalancing the funds.  I just made $10 with only seconds of price vulnerability.  I don't how I could lose BTC unless I got ridiculously unlucky.  I've even done it by hand a few times.  If you have to wait for the funds to rebalance in between trades there is risk, but if you only trade when you have funds ready to go on both exchanges you can do well when one market moves strongly.

The problem here is that you have to hold fiat while you wait for an arbitrage opportunity.  While you're waiting, your fiat could loose value against bitcoin.  Who takes that loss?


If you have investors who provide you with USD, or you have USD working capital, both currencies grow.

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January 14, 2012, 11:57:27 AM
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My first 1 BTC scalped:

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January 14, 2012, 06:20:03 PM
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Both me and the last person to post on this thread are getting about, although somewhat to either side of 1 in 200 of the input money each day. Isn't this just similar to how banks interest feature functions?

So If I wanted £40 per day then I would need £8,000 in the account.

If this isn't a scam will this lose effectiveness as others descover how it is done?

How some talk about trading bitcoin then perhaps a profestional trader or bot could make money conistantly like this anyway.

If I profestional trader or bot couldn't consistantly make money like this anyway, then itsn't it all just an upper class form of gambling.
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January 14, 2012, 07:54:11 PM
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That a reply to my post?
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January 14, 2012, 08:41:17 PM
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Has anybody checked if the BTC they deposit in their address is actually moved out of that address?

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January 14, 2012, 09:13:48 PM
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Has anybody checked if the BTC they deposit in their address is actually moved out of that address?

Mine moved day after I deposited them: http://blockexplorer.com/address/1FzfZ4znq5E5VmJJFQaRLSuB59NuZeZHw1
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January 14, 2012, 09:49:51 PM
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this is such an obvious scam!!! They don't even have to have a bot running, all they need is some initial capital and then pay people others people money until a critical mass is finally reached and they can run away with it all.

If they really did have a bot, there'd be lots of options and similar stuff that you could tweak yourself to reduce or increase risk. A good example of this is https://dnnbitcoin.aricie.com/ . Also if they had a bot that was this profitable, there's no way they'd share it publicly because it would immediately destroy the market inefficiency, and they would only have earned 2% of the profits.
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January 14, 2012, 10:00:53 PM
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Of course its a scam. Im not gonna put even one satoshi in there.
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January 15, 2012, 01:14:06 AM
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got my initial deposit out again without problem, but obvious manual payout. Now working with winnings. 1 btc so far. (0.94 Wink

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