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January 10, 2012, 09:17:26 PM |
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I wonder why people insist in saying that Ron Paul promised things that he did not (like banning abortion)
But although I usually think republicans are a very bad bunch, Ron Paul is someone I wish win the elections in the US, for the sake of the world.
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January 10, 2012, 09:55:36 PM |
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Romney is seriously a joke. There is 0 difference between him and Obama. Well, maybe a small difference in which corporations get babied. The guy thinks our second amendment means everyone should be able to have a 22 for hunting rabbits. Whether you agree people should be able to arm themselves or not, that is clearly wrong and the only reason someone would say stuff like that is that they are a pandering bullshit artist. It is also clear the media is pushing Romney on republicans. If you listen to conservative talk radio you hear people calling in all the time saying they feel creeped out because they don't know anyone who really likes romney but the media keeps covering him for some reason.
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January 10, 2012, 09:58:28 PM |
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There is 0 difference between him and Obama. Well, maybe a small difference in which corporations get babied.
Exactly.
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January 10, 2012, 10:36:20 PM |
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Then you should stop using bitcoins. You are a hypocrite statist who believes in anti-freedom. You have no business using market evolved money based on freedom and decentralization. This is what Ron Paul stands for, and this what bitcoiners should stand for aswell.
REALLY? SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
nuff said, -_- Edit: People like you HURT Bitcoin, and you don't even realize it... Bitcoin does not belong to you, or any political ideology for the matter. It doesn't have "favorites" and unlike your post, promotes TRUE freedom from all of the existing establishments including the one that your hero RP is part of, whether he likes it or not... Thank god that Bitcoin has no bias... And what establishment is Ron paul part of? If your ideas are not based on liberty, then you have no business being in Bitcoin. Bitcoin is about freedom of choice in currency, and freedom of choice principles. It makes you a hypocrite if you are pro-state, pro-centralization, pro-banking establishment monopolies, pro-surveillance state, pro-war, pro-war on drugs, and against civil rights, yet still want to use Bitcoins. Those are all against the principles of liberty. Let me ask you, what principles do you adhere to?
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January 10, 2012, 10:39:37 PM |
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Sovreign can you not see the utter asinine-ness of this statement?
"If your ideas are not based on liberty, then you have no business being in Bitcoin. "
FREEDOM = YOU (AS IN YOU SOVEREIGN) HAVE NO BUSINESS TELLING OTHER PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN NOT DO.
Seems like your idea of "freedom" is "you get to be free as long as you agree with me, otherwise I need to control what you do in the name of freedom".
What a fucking tool.
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January 10, 2012, 10:40:27 PM |
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Then you should stop using bitcoins. You are a hypocrite statist who believes in anti-freedom. You have no business using market evolved money based on freedom and decentralization. This is what Ron Paul stands for, and this what bitcoiners should stand for aswell.
You are very good at imitating an idiot. I can't distinguish you from an actual idiot.
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January 10, 2012, 10:42:38 PM |
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Sovreign can you not see the utter asinine-ness of this statement?
"If your ideas are not based on liberty, then you have no business being in Bitcoin. "
FREEDOM = YOU (AS IN YOU SOVEREIGN) HAVE NO BUSINESS TELLING OTHER PEOPLE WHAT THEY CAN OR CAN NOT DO.
Seems like your idea of "freedom" is "you get to be free as long as you agree with me, otherwise I need to control what you do in the name of freedom".
What a fucking tool.
There's a big difference between calling someone out on his hypocrisy (that is what I am doing) vs. supporting coercive institutions that apply force to restrain the freedom of others (what he's doing) Not really complicated
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January 10, 2012, 10:43:36 PM |
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You could believe in those principles, but recognize that the world is a complex place and decisions must be made in line with the current reality. The US is not a blank slate existing in a political vacuum. Since none of us can predict the future, I can understand why some people would still not support the election of Ron Paul as president despite agreeing with his principles.
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January 10, 2012, 10:45:48 PM |
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You could believe in those principles, but recognize that the world is a complex place and decisions must be made in line with the current reality. The US is not a blank slate existing in a political vacuum. Since none of us can predict the future, I can understand why some people would still not support the election of Ron Paul as president despite agreeing with his principles.
Oh so it's now an argument of practicality? If there's a will there's a way, bro. All we're asking for is a society that doesn't use coercion as much. That doesn't sound impractical to me. In fact, it's the only moral system in my view, a system where the use of coercion is minimized. Does the prevalence of rape, crime and murder make it any less wrong? No it doesn't.
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January 10, 2012, 10:52:02 PM |
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I agree, but I acknowledge the possibility of unintended consequences.
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January 10, 2012, 10:56:21 PM |
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Then you should stop using bitcoins. You are a hypocrite statist who believes in anti-freedom. You have no business using market evolved money based on freedom and decentralization. This is what Ron Paul stands for, and this what bitcoiners should stand for aswell.
REALLY? SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
nuff said, -_- Edit: People like you HURT Bitcoin, and you don't even realize it... Bitcoin does not belong to you, or any political ideology for the matter. It doesn't have "favorites" and unlike your post, promotes TRUE freedom from all of the existing establishments including the one that your hero RP is part of, whether he likes it or not... Thank god that Bitcoin has no bias... And what establishment is Ron paul part of? If your ideas are not based on liberty, then you have no business being in Bitcoin. Bitcoin is about freedom of choice in currency, and freedom of choice principles. It makes you a hypocrite if you are pro-state, pro-centralization, pro-banking establishment monopolies, pro-surveillance state, pro-war, pro-war on drugs, and against civil rights, yet still want to use Bitcoins. Those are all against the principles of liberty. Let me ask you, what principles do you adhere to? There's nothing hypocritical about it. Bitcoin doesn't have to be about principle. If I want to be pro-war and use Bitcoins, it doesn't make me a hypocrite. It simply means I like war and I like Bitcoins. *shrug*
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January 10, 2012, 11:15:46 PM |
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Then you should stop using bitcoins. You are a hypocrite statist who believes in anti-freedom. You have no business using market evolved money based on freedom and decentralization. This is what Ron Paul stands for, and this what bitcoiners should stand for aswell.
REALLY? SHUT THE FUCK UP!!!
nuff said, -_- Edit: People like you HURT Bitcoin, and you don't even realize it... Bitcoin does not belong to you, or any political ideology for the matter. It doesn't have "favorites" and unlike your post, promotes TRUE freedom from all of the existing establishments including the one that your hero RP is part of, whether he likes it or not... Thank god that Bitcoin has no bias... And what establishment is Ron paul part of? If your ideas are not based on liberty, then you have no business being in Bitcoin. Bitcoin is about freedom of choice in currency, and freedom of choice principles. It makes you a hypocrite if you are pro-state, pro-centralization, pro-banking establishment monopolies, pro-surveillance state, pro-war, pro-war on drugs, and against civil rights, yet still want to use Bitcoins. Those are all against the principles of liberty. Let me ask you, what principles do you adhere to? Ron Paul is not for civil rights. He just believes right should be controlled on the state level. He has expressed the view that states should be allowed to control what goes on in the bedroom. http://thinkprogress.org/yglesias/2011/08/26/305485/ron-paul-abortion-is-the-most-important-issue-of-our-age/http://www.jongeeting.net/?p=4202
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