Bribing government for bitcoins...

[nkocevar]

Say one was to send a message to.. maybe someone at dod.gov... and say that they know secret and classified "information" surrounding the killing of Osama bin Laden. And it said that the government must send 2000BTC to a said address or else the information will be leaked in a week. Would the government go for it, and if so, would and could there be charges brought up against the person for doing that?

[casinocoin]

Yes the Feds will be visiting you quickly.

[nkocevar]

Yes the Feds will be visiting you quickly.

I didnt say me... I was just speaking theoretically. Could you tell me what charges could be brought against the person doing it?

[turvarya]

Yes the Feds will be visiting you quickly.

I didnt say me... I was just speaking theoretically. Could you tell me what charges could be brought against the person doing it?

It's called blackmailing. Just google it.

[nkocevar]

Yes the Feds will be visiting you quickly.

I didnt say me... I was just speaking theoretically. Could you tell me what charges could be brought against the person doing it?

It's called blackmailing. Just google it.

But what if one did it anonymously... say through tor? What do you think the chances are of it succeeding?

[nkocevar]

Yes the Feds will be visiting you quickly.

I didnt say me... I was just speaking theoretically. Could you tell me what charges could be brought against the person doing it?

It's called blackmailing. Just google it.

But what if one did it anonymously... say through tor? What do you think the chances are of it succeeding?

I am going to assume that they could fall for it. They have spent billions on other stupid programs, so they could shell out a million for this. Im sure something fishy went down when they killed (or didnt kill) osama, and they dont want the american people to find out.

[byt411]

Yes the Feds will be visiting you quickly.

I didnt say me... I was just speaking theoretically. Could you tell me what charges could be brought against the person doing it?

It's called blackmailing. Just google it.

But what if one did it anonymously... say through tor? What do you think the chances are of it succeeding?

I am going to assume that they could fall for it. They have spent billions on other stupid programs, so they could shell out a million for this. Im sure something fishy went down when they killed (or didnt kill) osama, and they dont want the american people to find out.

Yes, something is fishy, but you can't just blackmail them like that. They won't pay you.

[5flags]

It's called blackmailing. Just google it.

Probably extortion...maybe?

Delightfully similar to a government demanding money (what they call "taxes) or they will throw you in a cage.

[turvarya]

It's called blackmailing. Just google it.

Probably extortion...maybe?

Delightfully similar to a government demanding money (what they call "taxes) or they will throw you in a cage.

What is the difference between extortion and blackmailing?
And no, it is not like taxes.

Has this forum recently be captured by criminals, who call them self anarchists?

[5flags]

What is the difference between extortion and blackmailing?

From Wiki:

Blackmail may also be considered a form of extortion.[1] Although the two are generally synonymous, extortion is the taking of personal property by threat of future harm.[9] Blackmail is the use of threats to prevent another from engaging in a lawful occupation and writing libelous letters or letters that provoke a breach of the peace, as well as use of intimidation for purposes of collecting an unpaid debt.[4]

Yea, actually I'm not sure that helps...

And no, it is not like taxes.

Government demands money on threat of imprisonment. Individual demands money on threat of telling the truth.

Actually you're right, they aren't the same.

[lindeanin]

would and could there be charges brought up against the person for doing that?

As they say, in USA, everything is possible 

I personally think it is just business offer, after all it is just information, but I can see how paranoid government can see it differently like you threatening somebody with true or false information

[nkocevar]

would and could there be charges brought up against the person for doing that?

As they say, in USA, everything is possible 

I personally think it is just business offer, after all it is just information, but I can see how paranoid government can see it differently like you threatening somebody with true or false information

I know someone who might try it, but with information on a different topic that they really have.

[franky1]

if someone was willing to extort the government. then their morals should not be trusted by the government, that after payment the data will or wont be destroyed.

this is the whole "we don't negotiate with kidnappers/terrorists" mindset they have.

[jparsley]

Yes the Feds will be visiting you quickly.

better dont do it

[turvarya]

What is the difference between extortion and blackmailing?

From Wiki:

Blackmail may also be considered a form of extortion.[1] Although the two are generally synonymous, extortion is the taking of personal property by threat of future harm.[9] Blackmail is the use of threats to prevent another from engaging in a lawful occupation and writing libelous letters or letters that provoke a breach of the peace, as well as use of intimidation for purposes of collecting an unpaid debt.[4]

Yea, actually I'm not sure that helps...

And no, it is not like taxes.

Government demands money on threat of imprisonment. Individual demands money on threat of telling the truth.

Actually you're right, they aren't the same.

So, if you are taking a good or service, don't pay for it and the salesman treatens to sue you, that is also extortion? Governments provide you with common goods, you have to pay for it via taxes. Sure, you can argue that, they charge too much, but you can say the same about Apple.

[5flags]

So, if you are taking a good or service, don't pay for it and the salesman treatens to sue you, that is also extortion?

Of course not. I have the option to not buy the good or service, and I have the option to go to another merchant.

Governments provide you with common goods, you have to pay for it via taxes.

Can I decide that I don't want the government's goods and services?

Sure, you can argue that, they charge too much, but you can say the same about Apple.

Can I decide that I don't want Apple's goods and services?

You see the difference?

[DannyHamilton]

No, they won't pay.

You'll be lucky if they decide to find you and prosecute you.

If you're unlucky, they'll just hunt you down and kill you.

[BittBurger]

I am going to assume that they could fall for it. They have spent billions on other stupid programs, so they could shell out a million for this. Im sure something fishy went down when they killed (or didnt kill) osama, and they dont want the american people to find out.

Why would you go this route in the first place?  This kind of corrupt behavior is exactly what Bitcoin was created to abolish.  Don't act like the very people Bitcoin was made to neuter.

-B-

[turvarya]

So, if you are taking a good or service, don't pay for it and the salesman treatens to sue you, that is also extortion?

Of course not. I have the option to not buy the good or service, and I have the option to go to another merchant.

Governments provide you with common goods, you have to pay for it via taxes.

Can I decide that I don't want the government's goods and services?

Sure, you can argue that, they charge too much, but you can say the same about Apple.

Can I decide that I don't want Apple's goods and services?

You see the difference?

Sure, you can. Move the fuck out of your country and revoke your citizenship.
As long as you stay in a country, you are using their common goods and services. Don't tell me you never used a street.

[5flags]

Sure, you can. Move the fuck out of your country and revoke your citizenship.
As long as you stay in a country, you are using their common goods and services. Don't tell me you never used a street.

So I should be banished from my home because I object to a political entity using violence to force goods and services on me and demanding payment for them?

If a business in Sicily is targeted by a mafia protection racket, should they just "move the fuck out of their country" if they don't like it?

I guess some people are just born to be ruled.