Bribing government for bitcoins...

[turvarya]

Sure, you can. Move the fuck out of your country and revoke your citizenship.
As long as you stay in a country, you are using their common goods and services. Don't tell me you never used a street.

So I should be banished from my home because I object to a political entity using violence to force goods and services on me and demanding payment for them?

If a business in Sicily is targeted by a mafia protection racket, should they just "move the fuck out of their country" if they don't like it?

I guess some people are just born to be ruled.

So, you don't use streets?

[5flags]

So, you don't use streets?

The Mafia is keeping you and your family safe. Don't you want your family to be safe? Good. Pay up.

[turvarya]

So, you don't use streets?

The Mafia is keeping you and your family safe. Don't you want your family to be safe? Good. Pay up.

Not answering my question, just shows how wrong you are.
If you don't want to pay for streets, than just move to a country without streets.

And don't give me that "I never signed up for that"-bullshit. You don't have a choice, where you are born, but you have a choice about where to live as an adult. You don't like, that you were born in a city? Move to a cave as an adult.

[bountygiver]

So, you don't use streets?

The Mafia is keeping you and your family safe. Don't you want your family to be safe? Good. Pay up.

Not answering my question, just shows how wrong you are.
If you don't want to pay for streets, than just move to a country without streets.

And don't give me that "I never signed up for that"-bullshit. You don't have a choice, where you are born, but you have a choice about where to live as an adult. You don't like, that you were born in a city? Move to a cave as an adult.

But you are just moving from one mafia territory to another, you don't really have a REAL choice there.

[5flags]

Not answering my question, just shows how wrong you are.

No. My question demonstrates the idiocy of your question. If I'm wrong, answer my question. Do you not want your family to be safe? If you do, then pay up.

If you don't want to pay for streets, than just move to a country without streets.

If you don't want the Mafia to protect you, then move to a country without a Mafia.

And don't give me that "I never signed up for that"-bullshit. You don't have a choice, where you are born, but you have a choice about where to live as an adult. You don't like, that you were born in a city? Move to a cave as an adult.

Why should I accept injustice just because a political entity sets itself up to maintain a monopoly on the use of violence to enforce that injustice??

Gandhi used non-violent resistance to oppose British rule and what he saw as unfair taxes on Indian workers, can you imagine telling him "if you don't like taxes and British rule, move to another country"?

Can you imagine telling Mandela "if you don't like apartheid, live somewhere else"?

Can you imagine telling Arabs in the Arab spring "if you don't like this government, go somewhere else"?

You advocate cowardice and submission. That might sit well with you if you are predisposed to it, but it would stick in my throat. Any time someone tries to take away the fruits of my labour using the threat of violence, I will say no.

[nkocevar]

Not answering my question, just shows how wrong you are.

No. My question demonstrates the idiocy of your question. If I'm wrong, answer my question. Do you not want your family to be safe? If you do, then pay up.

If you don't want to pay for streets, than just move to a country without streets.

If you don't want the Mafia to protect you, then move to a country without a Mafia.

And don't give me that "I never signed up for that"-bullshit. You don't have a choice, where you are born, but you have a choice about where to live as an adult. You don't like, that you were born in a city? Move to a cave as an adult.

Why should I accept injustice just because a political entity sets itself up to maintain a monopoly on the use of violence to enforce that injustice??

Gandhi used non-violent resistance to oppose British rule and what he saw as unfair taxes on Indian workers, can you imagine telling him "if you don't like taxes and British rule, move to another country"?

Can you imagine telling Mandela "if you don't like apartheid, live somewhere else"?

Can you imagine telling Arabs in the Arab spring "if you don't like this government, go somewhere else"?

You advocate cowardice and submission. That might sit well with you if you are predisposed to it, but it would stick in my throat. Any time someone tries to take away the fruits of my labour using the threat of violence, I will say no.

I love how off topic this has gotten. Please create a new topic on this xD im interested

[TopherB]

You advocate cowardice and submission. That might sit well with you if you are predisposed to it, but it would stick in my throat. Any time someone tries to take away the fruits of my labour using the threat of violence, I will say no.

So basically you will make use of (steal) the infrastructure, services and protections of your country without compensation because the payment is not optional? A country is like any other product if you don't like it don't buy it. But to use it without paying is theft. And yes, I left mine, twice. Although with no family and a job I could do anywhere with an internet connection it was easier for me than most.

[nkocevar]

You advocate cowardice and submission. That might sit well with you if you are predisposed to it, but it would stick in my throat. Any time someone tries to take away the fruits of my labour using the threat of violence, I will say no.

So basically you will make use of (steal) the infrastructure, services and protections of your country without compensation because the payment is not optional? A country is like any other product if you don't like it don't buy it. But to use it without paying is theft. And yes, I left mine, twice. Although with no family and a job I could do anywhere with an internet connection it was easier for me than most.

I agree with you on this... But I am concerned about what the government is spending the tax money on, not the tax itself.

[Beliathon]

I wouldn't recommend making yourself a blatant enemy of the United States Government.

Lay low and wait for them to implode on their own, then we can all pick up the pieces and build something that actually works.

[Polyrhythm]

Very smart plan indeed...

[Elwar]

Someone already tried this.

They sent a message to Mitt Romney saying that they had some damning information on him, gave a hint as to what it was using some wording from some paperwork of his, then asked for a million dollars in bitcoins by a certain date.

Romney never paid it, the guy was eventually caught.

[bryant.coleman]

Remember the CryptoLocker virus? It had attacked a number of systems used by the UK Police Department and encrypted the office files. In the end the cops had to pay the ransom amount, to unlock the files. I am not hearing about Cryptolocker lately. What happened to it? There are rumors that the people behind it have been arrested.

[jonald_fyookball]

Say one was to send a message to.. maybe someone at dod.gov... and say that they know secret and classified "information" surrounding the killing of Osama bin Laden. And it said that the government must send 2000BTC to a said address or else the information will be leaked in a week. Would the government go for it, and if so, would and could there be charges brought up against the person for doing that?

My opinion: It would probably not work unless the info you had was VERY critical.  I don't think the Feds want to set a precedent of being able to be bullied.  Kind of the old "we don't negotiate with terrorists" mentality.  

What's your motivation for asking such a question?

[Elwar]

Here's what happened when this was done:

http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/1/4483048/hacker-who-demanded-1-million-in-bitcoins-from-mitt-romney-charged

[Wheelie]

Waiting for the next big news acticle (eating popcorn) nom nom

Dude come on,serious

[nkocevar]

Say one was to send a message to.. maybe someone at dod.gov... and say that they know secret and classified "information" surrounding the killing of Osama bin Laden. And it said that the government must send 2000BTC to a said address or else the information will be leaked in a week. Would the government go for it, and if so, would and could there be charges brought up against the person for doing that?

My opinion: It would probably not work unless the info you had was VERY critical.  I don't think the Feds want to set a precedent of being able to be bullied.  Kind of the old "we don't negotiate with terrorists" mentality.  

What's your motivation for asking such a question?

Just something to think about. I mean im sure someone could guess something went awry with that operation and have the government convinced they know something. And the government might want to cover up their tracks. You never know what could happen...

[nkocevar]

Waiting for the next big news acticle (eating popcorn) nom nom

Dude come on,serious

Haha hey im not really gonna try it. I was just putting that out there and seeing if it could be a possibility.

[Joshuar]

You advocate cowardice and submission. That might sit well with you if you are predisposed to it, but it would stick in my throat. Any time someone tries to take away the fruits of my labour using the threat of violence, I will say no.

So basically you will make use of (steal) the infrastructure, services and protections of your country without compensation because the payment is not optional? A country is like any other product if you don't like it don't buy it. But to use it without paying is theft. And yes, I left mine, twice. Although with no family and a job I could do anywhere with an internet connection it was easier for me than most.

This +1, 5flags is irrational. He's using government funded services everyday but doesn't wanna pay up..Grow up dude, if you don't wanna use sidewalks, or streets, or the internet, or clothes, or toothbrushes, practically anything, since there all connected to the government someway somehow, then go live on Mars.

[jbreher]

Romney never paid it, the guy was eventually caught.

Or -a- guy was caught. Last I heard, the so-called implicating evidence looked awfully thin.

[NorTiaN]

Dude, just go for it, then come back here and tell us how it turn out. And if you dont come back, we will surely know how it went!!