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August 26, 2014, 11:40:42 PM
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How is it possible, that Shares price can only grow?
For example, there are 10 shares per $1 in the X-Value.com system.
It's 10 shares and 10$. (All shares are 100% backed by money).
Purchase price of the share will be higher, than the selling price of the share and it will be $2.
After some time users will buy 10 share per $2.
Now there are 20 shares and $30 in the system. (All shares are 100% backed by money).
So, share price will grow to $1.5. Purchase price of the share will be $3.
If some users will sell their shares, or even if all users will sell their shares, all users will receive $1.5 per share, because it is always enough money in the system.
For example, users will sell their 10 shares for $1.5
Now there are 10 shares and $15 in the system. Share price still will be $1.5. That's why price will never go down, and can only grow.
After that some users will buy another 10 shares per $3.
Now there are 20 shares and $45 in the system.
So, share price will grow to (45/20) $2.25 per share. Purchase price will grow to (2.25 * 2) $4.5 per share.
There are 20 shares per $2.25 and $45 in the system. (All shares are 100% backed by money).
Some users will buy more shares for $4.5 per share etc.

Now can you see that this system is always have money to pay users? It is not just a hyip or ponzi, it is first and unique system, where you can make lot of money without risks.
Do not listen all stupid guys, who says that it's a ponzi scheme. They are just not clever and cannot understand, that not only ponzi can exist in the world.
One genius and mathematic scientist design this principle, and it is totally differ.
X-value is the one system in the world, which use it.

Use my referral link for en explanation.

What are you talking about?

1 Share = 1$
10 players buys 10 shares for 1$ each (10$)
Money supply: 10$

Price raises to 2$ / share.
10 players buys 10 shares for 2$ each (20$)
Money supply: 30$

Now when the current share-price is 2$.. 20 people have shares worth off 40$. You're 10$ short..

Please correct me if I'm wrong.. or just GTFO with your scam.

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August 27, 2014, 05:02:23 AM
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What are you talking about?

1 Share = 1$
10 players buys 10 shares for 1$ each (10$)
Money supply: 10$


No, you can buy shares at more expensive prise.
1 Share = 1$ (selling price), and  purchase price for the same share at the same time = $2 (for example).
10 players buys 10 shares for $2 each (20$)
Money supply: 20$ (100%)


Please correct me if I'm wrong.. or just GTFO with your scam.


You are very rude

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August 27, 2014, 05:28:21 AM
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Well, almost 7 months have passed since the start of the X-Value.com site.

Now it has 4279 users and $ 257 293.80 paid.

Super Shares now worth 20 times more than it's starting price.
It's % 2000, and about % 1200 pure income for 7 months. And it is safety.

Good investments, aren't it?

If you will buy super shares today, yesterday it will cost more.

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August 27, 2014, 06:23:00 AM
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No, you can buy shares at more expensive prise.
1 Share = 1$ (selling price), and  purchase price for the same share at the same time = $2 (for example).
10 players buys 10 shares for $2 each (20$)
Money supply: 20$ (100%)

So you mean that the sell price is the half of the current buy price? So the sell-price is the previous price of the buy-price?

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August 27, 2014, 07:09:00 AM
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So you mean that the sell price is the half of the current buy price? So the sell-price is the previous price of the buy-price?

Kind of. Buy price = sell price x 2 (actually, it is not 2, maybe 1.8 ). You can register and see.

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August 27, 2014, 09:46:13 AM
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So you mean that the sell price is the half of the current buy price? So the sell-price is the previous price of the buy-price?

Kind of. Buy price = sell price x 2 (actually, it is not 2, maybe 1.8 ). You can register and see.

I gotta say.. that actually makes sense lol.

But still the profit can't be 1-5% / daily. Because the profit will only happen when other people buy shares.. and at some point people will stop buying shares when it gets to expensive to reach the next "price level". So in the long-run everyone will lose eventually.

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August 27, 2014, 02:45:56 PM
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Where is the site owner? Will be funny that hi no have account on bitcointalk. I think hi is just hiding own Sr.Member account

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August 27, 2014, 03:23:43 PM
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Where is the site owner? Will be funny that hi no have account on bitcointalk. I think hi is just hiding own Sr.Member account

Yea, I wonder that too. But it's obvious that TS is the owner of x-value. Just look at this "review" posted from a newbie:


I just got another payment. I really got this payment, please do not say that I did not, you have no proofs. You did not even try, because otherwise you would not say this is a scam. I am posting about payments that I personally received

Transaction details:

Status: 19 confirmations
Date:  5/10/2014 22:26
From: unknown
To: ********************************* (own address)
Credit: 0.29 BTC
Net amount: +0.29 BTC

It's so clear that's the TS who have typed that. A unknown user don't have any need to "protect" the sites reputation by posting that. Also how he formulated the sentences.. it's just to obvious.

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August 27, 2014, 04:21:44 PM
Last edit: August 27, 2014, 04:38:15 PM by anti-dot
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But still the profit can't be 1-5% / daily. Because the profit will only happen when other people buy shares.. and at some point people will stop buying shares when it gets to expensive to reach the next "price level". So in the long-run everyone will lose eventually.

Your words are totally wrong. Shares will not be too expensive, because you can buy 0.00000001 part of share.
Even if all users will stop buying the shares, it's price will still grow. Only math, no magic.
The money scheme is in cycle, and when previous members sell shares, it's growth increases.
Actually there is no dead point in the future.
So in the long-run everyone will win eventually.
I have already said, that the creator of this site is genius.

Where is the site owner? Will be funny that hi no have account on bitcointalk. I think hi is just hiding own Sr.Member account

I had some contacts with site owner. He allowed me to start a thread in bitcointalk and say, that he do not want to post in forums, it is not effective (he has no time and no wish to do that). Also I know, that site owner has enough money in his life, and he even do not want to promote his site (x-value). He said, that this is fully automated mechanism, which can works without any new members and he think, that with time users will know about this site from each other.
Support of x-value works for salary (from site's fees).

It's so clear that's the TS who have typed that. A unknown user don't have any need to "protect" the sites reputation by posting that. Also how he formulated the sentences.. it's just to obvious.

TS is me... I have only 1 account on Bitcointalk.org, and I am not an owner of X-value.com
I do not know who is Sillion. Snuffish do not be so lying. You are a bad analyst. "it's just to obvious."
For some people it is obvious, that the God exist. But it's not a fact.


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August 27, 2014, 04:36:13 PM
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But still the profit can't be 1-5% / daily. Because the profit will only happen when other people buy shares.. and at some point people will stop buying shares when it gets to expensive to reach the next "price level". So in the long-run everyone will lose eventually.

Your words are totally wrong. Shares will not be too expensive, because you can buy 0.00000001 part of share.
Even if all users will stop buying the shares, it's price will still grow. Only math, no magic.
The money scheme is in cycle, and when previous members sell shares, it's growth increases.
Actually there is no dead point in the future.
So in the long-run everyone will win eventually.
I have already said, that the creator of this site is genius.

Okay.

Since there is absolutely no FAQ or explanation on the site how this works.. I still don't get it.
What is it that decides the "price change"?

100 shares bought = increase price with 2x
sell shares = increase price
buy shares = increase price

I don't get it.. what factors increases the price? Because it's ONLY the price change who can generate a profit for the user.

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August 27, 2014, 04:42:34 PM
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Okay.

Since there is absolutely no FAQ or explanation on the site how this works.. I still don't get it.
What is it that decides the "price change"?

100 shares bought = increase price with 2x
sell shares = increase price
buy shares = increase price

I don't get it.. what factors increases the price? Because it's ONLY the price change who can generate a profit for the user.
Well, I do not want you to participate in x-value, I just asked not to lie about me. Maybe you are just wrong, but I do not know exactly. My sentenses are wrong because I am not american.

You should register x-value and try to buy some shares for free BTC.
And than you will understand, how it works. Maybe you will.

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August 27, 2014, 04:48:59 PM
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Okay.

Since there is absolutely no FAQ or explanation on the site how this works.. I still don't get it.
What is it that decides the "price change"?

100 shares bought = increase price with 2x
sell shares = increase price
buy shares = increase price

I don't get it.. what factors increases the price? Because it's ONLY the price change who can generate a profit for the user.
Well, I do not want you to participate in x-value, I just asked not to lie about me. Maybe you are just wrong, but I do not know exactly. My sentenses are wrong because I am not american.

You should register x-value and try to buy some shares for free BTC.
And than you will understand, how it works. Maybe you will.


Haha, I'm not american either.. I'm from Sweden Smiley

It seems that you don't really know how it works either I see. But I really like the idea, but x-value is a really bad site. Bad design and doesn't feel "serious" in anyway possible.
Like a 10 year old who just discovered HTML.

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August 30, 2014, 04:56:12 AM
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Received another withdrawal payment: 0.60000000 BTC

Status: 3/unconfirmed
Date: 8/30/2014 05:19
From: unknown
To: 168cgxxQJC6UzyR4VE2zSUZoKpRgkLKFrj (own address)
Credit: 0.60 BTC
Net amount: +0.60 BTC
Transaction ID: 919cb9a182619f7aa4c22fd0ecc96513803d4a5b84ccf919cdd43d61c584441a-000
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September 02, 2014, 10:36:25 PM
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It's obvious how this works. Get in early and you'll be fine. Get in at the tail end and you're screwed.

Isn't that how this is supposed to work? Why is everyone so worried or trying to figure how it can only go up?
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September 06, 2014, 07:00:09 PM
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It's interesting to have a negative profit on a site that's only supposed to generate a revenue.. Wink


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September 07, 2014, 12:38:52 AM
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It's interesting to have a negative profit on a site that's only supposed to generate a revenue.. Wink




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September 07, 2014, 03:19:05 PM
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It's interesting to have a negative profit on a site that's only supposed to generate a revenue.. Wink



Read this topic again.

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September 20, 2014, 02:51:18 AM
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Thanks for the warning, I saw a teensy profit over a night, but I decided to just ingest a Fukitol pill
and withdraw and quit on it after a day. Lucky I got out and saw this thread when I did. Could've
carshed on me, but I jumped out.
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September 20, 2014, 11:15:51 AM
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Thanks for the warning, I saw a teensy profit over a night, but I decided to just ingest a Fukitol pill
and withdraw and quit on it after a day. Lucky I got out and saw this thread when I did. Could've
carshed on me, but I jumped out.

You should wait for a long time (couple of months or more) to have a good profit.
I saw some proofs of guys who withdrew good profit.
For example (not my payment):

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Received 1.64601616 BTC (780$)
Id: 4f9669497912fc5a9cb21447f758cf4276b65e545e426b06b12fbf44b1137d26


As I already said, this is a very good and stable project to make money.


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October 13, 2014, 04:25:49 AM
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One Super Share price is 3.564 mBTC now and growing.

It is over 300% of July's Super Share price and over 3350% of February's price.


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