Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again?

[Nemo1024]

When I first started this topic a year ago, I formulated it as a question, following some indicators that were similar to those that preceded previous invasions of Russia by the West.

Now, one year later, the topic can be titled in the affirmative.

Yes, the West is gearing up to invade Russia once again. The veil is off and America is on an offensive.

Congress Demands War in Ukraine!
http://www.ronpaulinstitute.org/archives/featured-articles/2015/march/23/congress-demands-war-in-ukraine/

[Nemo1024]

Latest from Paul Craig Roberts:
http://rt.com/news/244317-usa-poland-thunderbolt-drills/

Four US A-10 Thunderbolt II attack planes are taking part in war games in Poland, as the nation expects about 10,000 NATO forces at drills this year. Moscow says the military build-up at Russia’s borders will have a negative long-term impact.

And the worst yet to come. The president of Lithuania is a daughter of a KGB/NKVD officer, and herself was in the Communist tops, so she knows how to squash dissent:

Lithuanians Under Police State Attack: and the world under Washington’s attack — Paul Craig Roberts
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/03/25/lithuanians-police-state-attack-world-washingtons-attack-paul-craig-roberts/

According to news reports https://ltnacionalistas.wordpress.com/angliskai/lithuanian-government-intensifies-persecutions-against-anti-imperialist-activists/ and to this appeal by Kristoferis Voishka https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6MDj2uvyLk
the pro-American government installed in Lithuania is persecuting Lithuanians who dissent from the anti-Russian propaganda that is driving Washington’s NATO puppets to war with Russia. Unlike their puppet government, Lithuanians understand that war with Russia means that Lithuania on the front line will be utterly destroyed, a result that would not bother Washington in the least, just as Washington is undisturbed when its forces obliterate weddings, funerals, and children’s soccer games.

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As I have said so many times, Americans are the worst informed people on the planet.
The are unaware of the growing momentum toward war with Russia. The presstitute media throughout Europe, especially in the Baltic states and Poland, is hard at work creating in people’s minds the fear of a Russian invasion. The orchestrated fear then provides the basis for the American puppet governments to beg troops and tanks and missiles from Washington, and the US military/security complex, counting its profits, is pleased to comply.

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Lithuania is going now the same path as Ukraine, where it is a criminal offence to say that Russia is not an aggressor.

[Nemo1024]

Looks like the stage is being set...

Estonia's president in an interview to "The Times" urged NATO to attack Russia with military force in case there is a cyberattack against Estonia or other Baltic states coming from Russia.

It is not a secret that Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland are USA's Trojan horses - the Manchurian Candidates - within Europe.

Now, as Russian antivirus firm Kaspersky Labs recently showed, NSA's Equation group is pretty strong and resourceful, and it'll be pretty easy to stage a plausible false-flag cyberattack coming as-if from Russia. And, hey presto, USA has the pretext to start WWIII.

http://lenta.ru/news/2015/04/03/estoniattack/

And, quite conveniently, the British Minister of Defence on the 19th of February already ensured everyone that Russia will (in defiance of its own interests!) soon start destabilising the Baltic states.

[bryant.coleman]

It is not a secret that Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland are USA's Trojan horses - the Manchurian Candidates - within Europe.

In case of any military confrontation between Russia and NATO, these four countries will be wiped off the face of earth. The United States, as usual will refuse to help them in any manner, and will sit back and watch the show.

[Nemo1024]

George Friedman of the "shadow CIA" organisation Stratfor speaks at The Chicago Council on Global Affairs. He has a very frank view on the current foreign doctrine of the United States. He spells out the USA's view on EU (basically echoing the famous Nudelman's stance), on NATO (it's a hindrance to USA) and on the vassal states between Russia and Europe.

This is a must-watch!

George Friedman, "Europe: Destined for Conflict?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QeLu_yyz3tc

Also, the following fragment is about the paramount goal for the USA to create split between Germany and Russia, repeating the previous two "successes". This fragment is subbed to German:

Stratfor:The US Main Interest is to Stop Alliance Between Russia and Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5SjPLJOjqc

Some comments:

Sean Gelles
 
It's pretty obvious which way Germany will go.  In the final analysis Friedman's forecast is skewed by his pro-Anglo-US bias.  If he were to apply to Germany the same theoretical method that he applies elsewhere he would see that the Berlin-Moscow axis is inevitable.  Germany has no future without Russia and Russia has no future without Germany.  The great statesmen of France, Germany's most important ally in the post-war era, have never been shy about this fact.  In 1949, during a Press Conference, De Gaulle famously said “I say that Europe must be built on the basis of an agreement between the French and the Germans. Once Europe is structured on that foundation, then we can turn to Russia. Then once and for all, we can try to build Europe as a whole with Russia included, should she change her regime.  Here is a program for true Europeans, here is mine.”  In 1996, Mitterand said "we are at war with America... A permanent war... a war without death.  They are very hard, the Americans -- they are voracious.  They want undivided power over the world."

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Susan O
 
I'm American and, like you, pay close attention to foreign affairs and geopolitics. I wish all Germans (and all of Europe, for that matter) would see what it is that's going on. The US WILL sacrifice Europe, next, if Europe doesn't wake the fuck up. How could a continent that was the battlefield for two world wars allow this to happen? It blows my mind. The AngloZionists are a threat to the entire world. When Victoria Nuland said, "Fuck the EU", that was aimed at Germany, the only real obstacle to AngloZionist plans. Now, the US is furious that Germany and France dared to meet with Putin, without the US approving or even being invited. That's why they're doing everything they can to stop any peace in Donbass. Now the idiots in Poland, the Baltics, Bulgaria and Romania are hosting a huge US military buildup in the name of "exercises". That US equipment and the US advisers will NOT be leaving.

[bryant.coleman]

Stratfor:The US Main Interest is to Stop Alliance Between Russia and Germany
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5SjPLJOjqc

No surprise there. Once a vassal state, always a vassal state. After Merkel became the chancellor, Germany is trying really hard to become a loyal slave of Obama.

[Nemo1024]

Seems the house of lies that is NATO is having trouble holding up, and the French are the ones who got tired of the USA' hypocrisy first.

French military intelligence rules out ‘Russian invasion plans’ for Ukraine
http://rt.com/news/248877-france-ukraine-russian-military/

France’s intelligence chief has questioned NATO’s claims of Russia preparing to attack Ukraine as their agents failed to spot any activities signaling this - either before or after the crisis began.

A statement by the chief of France’s military intelligence, General Christophe Gomart, was published on the National Assembly’s website.

“NATO announced that the Russians were about to invade Ukraine. But, according to French intelligence, there is nothing to corroborate this hypothesis – we determined that the Russians were deploying neither command posts nor logistical facilities, including field hospitals, needed for a military incursion,” General Gomart told a parliamentary hearing.
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The French intelligence chief’s remarks came in the context of France’s role in NATO. Gomart noted that at the moment the alliance is dominated by US intelligence, while France’s intelligence is taken not taken into consideration so much.

“France will not be fooled. France has its own sources of information and we are aware what the explanation for the crisis in Ukraine is,” Philippe Migault, expert on Ukraine from the University of International and Strategic Relations, told Sputnik news agency after Gomart’s remarks were published.

Also, USA made an unexpected advertisement to the Russian fighter pilots' skills. A week ago, an American electronic surveillance plane RC-135 was heading towards the Russian border from the Baltic sea with its transponder turned off. Russians sent a lone fighter plane to identify the potential intruder. The fighter had to come as close a 6 meters off the American plane before he identified it and started heading him off from Russian border. Pentagon sad the Russian fighter pilot was reckless. I say the pilot of SU-27 is an ace.

http://www.vz.ru/society/2015/4/11/739456.html

[Nemo1024]

To log the development...

The Canadian journalist published an interesting piece:

NATO seeks to draw in new anti-Russia forces: Analyst
http://www.presstv.ir/Detail/2015/05/05/409570/NATO-Russia-Ukraine-War-Games-Victory-Day-

Press TV has interviewed Fred Weir, a journalist and political commentator in Moscow, to discuss recent military exercises held by NATO members in Europe, while Russia prepares to celebrate World War II Victory Day.

Press TV: Sir, give us your thoughts on the recent military exercises being carried out by NATO members.

Weir: Well, most of this is not routine. I mean we have always had routine military exercises every year, big organizations get together dozens of times a year to hold war games and so on. It is not just that this takes place amid a political crisis, a very serious one over Ukraine, but that it is drawing in new energies, new forces. For instance, Sweden will be cooperating for the first time with the anti-submarine exercises, although Sweden is not a member of NATO.

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[deisik]

It is not a secret that Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland are USA's Trojan horses - the Manchurian Candidates - within Europe.

In case of any military confrontation between Russia and NATO, these four countries will be wiped off the face of earth. The United States, as usual will refuse to help them in any manner, and will sit back and watch the show.

The three Baltic states actually make more noise than they are really worth (in a military sense). They will be taken over in a matter of hours as NATO troops wisely withdraw from there (dunno if there are any), and I guess even without firing a shot...

[Balthazar]

It is not a secret that Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania and Poland are USA's Trojan horses - the Manchurian Candidates - within Europe.

In case of any military confrontation between Russia and NATO, these four countries will be wiped off the face of earth. The United States, as usual will refuse to help them in any manner, and will sit back and watch the show.

The three Baltic states actually make more noise than they are really worth (in a military sense). They will be taken over in a matter of hours as NATO troops wisely withdraw from there (dunno if there are any), and I guess even without firing a shot...

I'd say that they're just attention whores who worth virtually nothing. Just for example, combined population of Estonia and Lithuania is less than population of St. Petersburg.

[bryant.coleman]

I'd say that they're just attention whores who worth virtually nothing. Just for example, combined population of Estonia and Lithuania is less than population of St. Petersburg.

In addition to that, the total population in all these three countries are going down like a falling knife. The current population of Latvia is 1.9 million, down from 2.7 million two decades ago. Lithuania has seen its population going down to 2.8 million from a peak of 3.7 million. If things continue like this, then within a few years, these nations will be absorbed (peacefully) by either Germany or the USA.

[RodeoX]

I wonder is our Russian posters are aware that this is not even in the news anymore. No one in America cares about these issues, not even a little.

[Balthazar]

I wonder is our Russian posters are aware that this is not even in the news anymore.

I think you're aware that we're able to watch BBC, CNN, FauxNews, et cetera. Of course we know that your people would prefer to see some news about Jastin Bieber.

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hVBzuXCbOxA

No one in America cares about these issues, not even a little.

And that's a major reason of all these events. As well as any other proxy war, this one happens due to your silent permission. Congratulations.

[YarkoL]

I'd say that they're just attention whores who worth virtually nothing.

Considering that they all were pretty much raped by
Soviet Union, I kind of understand their motivation  to join
NATO.

No one in America cares about these issues, not even a little.

Hello? Your bosses are worse than Putin. Overthrowing governments,
breeding instability and installing thugs around the globe for their
selfish, short-sighted aims.

[Balthazar]

Oh common... I smell this poor Latvia/Lithuania/Estonia raped by USSR again %) If they were raped then why their demography had a positive dynamics until 1990s?



By the way, share of titular nations is also going down.

Why not google some charts before pushing this ridiculous template again and again? There is no doubt that socialist system had enough very serious issues but it allowed people to achieve positive dynamics. On the other hand, now they're slowly dying out and coming to their end.

Ok, if they were raped by USSR then which term should be sufficient to describe what happens to them right now? I'd prefer something like "EU-approved neo-liberal genocide", do you have any other suggestions?

[YarkoL]

By raped, I mean forceful annexation, stripping
of human rights, mass deportations and everything
else that came with Soviet rule.

I don't understand the need for modern Russians to
whitewash all that, now that they've left that
horrendous social experiment behind them. Or have
they?

And sorry, I don't see how your demographic curve
correlates with general welfare.

[Balthazar]

Oh common... I smell this poor Latvia/Lithuania/Estonia raped by USSR again %) If they were raped then why their demography had a positive dynamics until 1990s?



By the way, share of titular nations is also going down.

Why not google some charts before pushing this ridiculous template again and again? There is no doubt that socialist system had enough very serious issues but it allowed people to achieve positive dynamics. On the other hand, now they're slowly dying out and coming to their end.

Ok, if they were raped by USSR then which term should be sufficient to describe what happens to them right now? I'd prefer something like "EU-approved neo-liberal genocide", do you have any other suggestions?

Oh, wait... Brussels is the capital of Belgium! I KNEW IT! GOTCHA! Damned Belgians are raping poor Lithuanians, imagine evil they are. Brrrr what a disgusting act of genocide. Belgium's crime should be condemned as soon as possible. %)

[Balthazar]

I don't understand the need for modern Russians to
whitewash all that, now that they've left that
horrendous social experiment behind them. Or have
they?

You know, somebody would say that Russians are strange guys but in fact it's completely opposite. I think that these weird attempts to see nonexistent whitewashing in nothing but regular conversation will never cease to amuse me. It's just a discussion, like it or not it's the way it's gotta be.

And sorry, I don't see how your demographic curve
correlates with general welfare.

Sorry, I thought that basics of arithmetical education are provided by the most of European schools. If there is no proper living conditions then people are dying and population is decreasing. Population growth is also slowing down due to deaths of those people who would be able to marry and give birth to future generations. Isn't this correlation quite simple? I'm sorry for being too accurate.

stripping of human rights, mass deportations and everything
else that came with Soviet rule.

I think that nobody hides anything. We all know about social experiment, violations of human rights etc. Especially the violations and experiments done by your current governments. Do you really think that condemned decision is enough to whitewash activities of your current regime? You're condemning the deprival of civil rights, suppression of opposition while doing the same thing right now. Excuse me, but I see nothing except Orwellian kind of doublethink disfunction here.

By raped, I mean forceful annexation

Thank you for the clarification, but I suppose it was obvious for anybody. Even citizens of Gliese 581c will be able to hear screams about annexation. J. Stalin decided to move border closer to Germany due to strategical reasons, and he did it without authorization from the Congress of Soviets. You know, secret addition to Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was officially condemned in 1989 as unconstitutional decision which doesn't represent will of the people.

I hate to say it by I would annex these territories on the same "legal" basis even if it would result with a consequent trial and execution. Buffer territories were required for our survival, creation of puppet states was necessary to prevent the destruction of our industry in the first days of inevitable war. Don't be a hypocrite, you would do the same for your own country. Being politician is a very dirty work.

But all these things doesn't matter today, because we're living in the nuclear age. Buffer states won't be effective against the nuclear weapons. There is no purpose to annex these territories again, because the both sides have enough nuclear weapons to destroy each other for dozens of times. Since the first successful nuclear test this world doesn't revolve around the baltic republics anymore. Get a life and stop worrying about nonsense. Make love, it's necessary for survival of your people. It won't help you to stop EU's genocidal policies but it's much better than nothing.

[YarkoL]

Sorry, I thought that basics of arithmetical education are provided by the most of European schools. If there is no proper living conditions then people are dying and population is decreasing. Population growth is also slowing down due to deaths of those people who would be able to marry and give birth to future generations. Isn't this correlation quite simple? I'm sorry for being too accurate.

In most developed countries, the birth rates are
slowing down, and not because of dismal living conditions.
I think you need to provide some more detailed
statistics to back your assertions.

Do you really think that condemned decision is enough to whitewash activities of your current regime? You're condemning the deprival of civil rights, suppression of opposition while doing the same thing right now. Excuse me, but I see nothing except Orwellian kind of doublethink disfunction here.

If you mean EU by "my" current regime, yes, I do
agree that it is another disastrous experiment, and only hope
that its inevitable dismantlement won't be too catastrophic.

However, I don't think the level of deprival of civil rights
in EU is nowhere near the situation that prevailed in USSR.
Sorry for stating the obvious once again.

I hate to say it by I would annex these territories on the same "legal" basis even if it would result with a trial and execution. Buffer territories were required for our survival, creation of puppet states was necessary to prevent the destruction of our industry in the first days of inevitable war. Don't be a hypocrite, you would do the same for your own country.

Well, your idea of legality seems to be that might makes right.
As for being hypocritical, all I can say that I would like to see any kind of state become un-created,
puppets or masters alike.But for my people and for my turf, I'd be prepared to fight off any invader, whether from west or east.
That is, I am an anarchist, but also a patriot, a Finn.
 

[bryant.coleman]

In most developed countries, the birth rates are
slowing down, and not because of dismal living conditions.
I think you need to provide some more detailed
statistics to back your assertions.

May be. But unlike the situation in Lithuania and Latvia (where the death rate is almost two times the birth rate), the population is not rapidly declining in most of the developed countries. Take the example of the United States, Canada, France, Norway, Denmark, Ireland.etc. Low birth rate is not the real problem in the Baltics. The major issue is extremely-high death rates.