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Mission uncertain: Canadian planes leave for Eastern Europe to assist NATO
Unless a NATO member is attacked by Russia (such as Latvia or Estonia), these guys are just going to sit around and watch. Putin also knows it. He knows that the NATO can't do anything against him in Ukraine, other than supporting the corrupt oligarchs such as Tymoshenko and Akhmetov. Well, NATO invaded Yugoslavia without Yugoslavia attacking or even threatening any NATO member first...
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April 30, 2014, 05:33:41 PM |
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No one on Earth, except the cockroaches, want's to see a war like that. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif)
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April 30, 2014, 05:37:49 PM |
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Mission uncertain: Canadian planes leave for Eastern Europe to assist NATO
Unless a NATO member is attacked by Russia (such as Latvia or Estonia), these guys are just going to sit around and watch. Putin also knows it. He knows that the NATO can't do anything against him in Ukraine, other than supporting the corrupt oligarchs such as Tymoshenko and Akhmetov. Well, NATO invaded Yugoslavia without Yugoslavia attacking or even threatening any NATO member first... They could have successfully defended themselves, JNA (Yugoslav National Army) was almost intact after the NATO bombing finished, but their political leadership was corrupt and incapable. And that was the reason why NATO attacked Yugoslavia in the first place... ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 01, 2014, 02:44:24 AM |
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Well, NATO invaded Yugoslavia without Yugoslavia attacking or even threatening any NATO member first...
The bombing of Serbia had more to do with the Clinton - Monica Lewinsky scandal than it had to do with any political reasons. Clinton was just looking to divert the attention from his sex scandal.
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May 06, 2014, 07:37:28 AM |
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NATO’s record 6,000-strong drills kick off in Estonia amid Ukraine tensionshttp://rt.com/news/156928-nato-military-drills-estonia/Why so many? Eh?
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May 06, 2014, 08:22:23 AM |
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I hope not, would not end well for any party Everybody loses
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May 06, 2014, 09:01:22 AM |
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 06, 2014, 09:13:03 AM |
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I hope not, would not end well for any party Everybody loses
Not everybody... Banksters from the both sides are in profit.
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May 06, 2014, 09:32:23 AM |
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No one on Earth, except the cockroaches, want's to see a war like that. ![Cry](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cry.gif) +1. I doubt it will go down to this though. It will be the earth's final war.
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May 06, 2014, 12:19:46 PM |
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Nope. No economic reasons. Plus Bush is not the President, and he was more war prone.
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May 06, 2014, 12:49:00 PM |
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And the response from Russia: http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1552908&cid=9Russian Ministry of Defence advised US to learn geography ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) "First, US actually has a common border with Russia by the Bering strait, so it's absurd to treat Russian planes' flight over neutral waters in the Pacific as some kind of challenge to the US. Moreso since the intensity of US flights by the Russian borders never decreased since the de-escalation of Cold War." "Second, connecting Russian flights in the Pacific with the events in Ukraine can only stem from poor knowledge of geography..." "Third, stop shoving the blame. US entangled itself in the Ukrainian crisis, and it's useless to seek scapegoats on the side now."
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 06, 2014, 01:28:22 PM |
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And the response from Russia: http://www.vesti.ru/doc.html?id=1552908&cid=9Russian Ministry of Defence advised US to learn geography ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) "First, US actually has a common border with Russia by the Bering strait, so it's absurd to treat Russian planes' flight over neutral waters in the Pacific as some kind of challenge to the US. Moreso since the intensity of US flights by the Russian borders never decreased since the de-escalation of Cold War." "Second, connecting Russian flights in the Pacific with the events in Ukraine can only stem from poor knowledge of geography..." "Third, stop shoving the blame. US entangled itself in the Ukrainian crisis, and it's useless to seek scapegoats on the side now." If I were the Russian Ministry of Defence, I would rather keep silence... That would work just fine, why bother to say anything? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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May 07, 2014, 11:11:50 AM |
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If I were the Russian Ministry of Defence, I would rather keep silence... That would work just fine, why bother to say anything? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Because in Russian mindset "silence is the sign of agreement/consent", so the Ministry had to make a statement. NATO eyes 'defensive' permanent troop deployment near Russia's bordershttp://rt.com/news/157344-nato-troops-eastern-europe/"We need to look at our responsiveness, our readiness and then our positioning of forces to be able to address this new paradigm that we have seen demonstrated in Crimea and now on the eastern border of Ukraine," he said. What "Eastern borders of Ukraine"? "We are taking measures that should be very easily discerned as being defensive in nature. This is about assuring our allies, not provoking Russia, and we are communicating that at every level," said Breedlove, who earlier on Monday said he didn’t think Russia would invade Ukraine. Yeah, right... Russia voiced objections to NATO's build-up of troops in Eastern Europe amid the Ukrainian conflict. Officials say that a permanent deployment would only prove Moscow's assessment of NATO's action as hostile.
“I believe this decision would be taken and it would pose a real threat to our security. It would be a big, serious international scandal, but I know they would do it,” said Frants Klintsevich, deputy chair of the Russian State Duma’s Defense Committee. “Americans are taking all bets off, and Ukraine is just a pretext. They don't care about people, about what happens in Ukraine.”
“Those statements mean that masks are now completely off. It was clear even before that the deployment of the anti-ballistic missile system in Eastern Europe indicated the continuation of the alliance expansion eastwards,” agreed Russian Senator Dmitry Sablin, who is a member of the Federation Council’s Defense and Security Committee.
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“Dark times lie ahead of us and there will be a time when we must choose between what is easy and what is right.” “We are only as strong as we are united, as weak as we are divided.” “It is important to fight and fight again, and keep fighting, for only then can evil be kept at bay, though never quite eradicated.”
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May 07, 2014, 11:55:06 AM |
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I don't see anyone invading Russia at the moment. One thing is to make sure that Putin doesn't conquer Ukraine, the other one is to know that most of Russian citizens are against any kind of intervention in Ukraine.
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May 07, 2014, 12:15:06 PM |
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If I were the Russian Ministry of Defence, I would rather keep silence... That would work just fine, why bother to say anything? ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Because in Russian mindset "silence is the sign of agreement/consent", so the Ministry had to make a statement. Ignorance should suffice (and would do much better even in the eyes of Russians). A barking dog never bites... ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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May 07, 2014, 12:39:43 PM |
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Obama can't even impose sanctions on Gazprom. And you people think that he is going to invade Moscow? Sanctioning Goliath: Why Russia's Gazprom Remains Out of Reachhttp://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2014/05/07/sanctioning-goliath-why-russias-gazprom-remains-out-of-reach-for-us-euBut there's far more at play than energy. Even if Europe finds a way to get all its gas from the U.S. and other countries – such as Algeria, Nigeria and Mozambique – energy independence is far from a panacea. Gazprom's name may combine the Russian words for "gas industry," but its reach encompasses much more than gas and oil, spanning from a subsidiary it wholly owns in Amsterdam; to investment firms in Ireland, Austria and Vienna; to energy companies in Italy and Moldova; to media companies in Moscow.
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May 07, 2014, 12:58:49 PM |
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I honestly don't see the American people supporting this type of action and there will be major political blow back if you ask me.
I also don't see America doing the first step to a future WW3.The leading governments, the UN Council, and back-benching political and editorial institutions (including the media), would of course know that a single nuclear bomb or any large-scale military or aerial strike would lead the world very quickly into certain and complete annihilation.
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May 07, 2014, 08:43:39 PM |
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I honestly don't see the American people supporting this type of action and there will be major political blow back if you ask me.
I also don't see America doing the first step to a future WW3.The leading governments, the UN Council, and back-benching political and editorial institutions (including the media), would of course know that a single nuclear bomb or any large-scale military or aerial strike would lead the world very quickly into certain and complete annihilation. yeah I concur with this, in fact who knows what new technology can be used in WW3 that probably could be far more worse then a nuke, im sure there are new weapons out that both parties were saving
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