Is the West gearing up to invade Russia once again?

[deisik]

I have written an extended blog post, based on this thread:
http://stanislavs.org/is-the-west-gearing-up-to-invade-russia-once-again/


In the meantime, provocations continue. Ukrainian military shelled Russian land in Rostov region (control point Gukovo). Russian opened a criminal case against Ukraine on this account:

http://rusvesna.su/news/1404124233

I'm curious about how long it will take before Russia fights back and starts kicking Ukrainian asses along the border (creating something like a demilitarized zone). A first fatality?

[Nemo1024]

Sometime in November, when the frosts set in...

[deisik]

this picture says it all.



but now, russia also has nukes

Get strong like rock, not weak like Barack!

[Swordsoffreedom]

this picture says it all.



but now, russia also has nukes

Get strong like rock, not weak like Barack!

A picture says a 1000 words after all
That was a good one surprised no one put in a Barrack's joke in there
Were barracking you

[DrG]

We're not touching Russia.  I know for certain we have no intentions of doing anything if we draw a red line like we did with Syria and...oh there we go drawing a line.

[AdamSmith]

US will probably do something stupid and provoke Russia into invading another country that sided with US.

Global war is unlikely to happen. But that doesn't mean Russia's neighbors and Europe won't suffer.

[cech4204a]

US will probably do something stupid and provoke Russia into invading another country that sided with US.

Global war is unlikely to happen. But that doesn't mean Russia's neighbors and Europe won't suffer.

It has never been closer to WW3 since 1942, and you say that global was is unlikely to happen? Cmon everyone can feel the tensions going around the world. China, Russia, India and North Korea are just waiting for the clap to start war.

[niothor]

US will probably do something stupid and provoke Russia into invading another country that sided with US.

Global war is unlikely to happen. But that doesn't mean Russia's neighbors and Europe won't suffer.

It has never been closer to WW3 since 1942, and you say that global was is unlikely to happen? Cmon everyone can feel the tensions going around the world. China, Russia, India and North Korea are just waiting for the clap to start war.

I think that sport is reserved for the Cuban crisis.

For both China and India , a ww3 is the worst thing that could happen , they are far more interested in economical growth and trade than war

[Nemo1024]

US will probably do something stupid and provoke Russia into invading another country that sided with US.

Global war is unlikely to happen. But that doesn't mean Russia's neighbors and Europe won't suffer.

It has never been closer to WW3 since 1942, and you say that global was is unlikely to happen? Cmon everyone can feel the tensions going around the world. China, Russia, India and North Korea are just waiting for the clap to start war.

I think that sport is reserved for the Cuban crisis.

For both China and India , a ww3 is the worst thing that could happen , they are far more interested in economical growth and trade than war

You are right there. Add Russia to the list of countries not interested in a war. As with WWI and WWII, Russia will only stand to lose if a war is imposed on it. What Russia needed and was denied since the beginning of 1900 is a prolonged period of peace to develop its economy.

[Swordsoffreedom]

The USA also relies on a lot of Russian supplies and technology as well
As they say you can mess with small countries but not large ones who you rely on in the international system.

[Nemo1024]

The war is being shifter closer to Russian territory:

Several shells exploded on Russian territory, near border control point Novoshahtijsk. 2 buildings were damaged:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1404371346


Russian battalions are setting up firing positions 300 meters to 1.5 kilometers from the border to defend Russia from a looming invasion:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1404346620


The workers of the Russian border control point Gukovo are evacuated due to the approaching battles:
http://rusvesna.su/news/1404376076

The USA also relies on a lot of Russian supplies and technology as well
As they say you can mess with small countries but not large ones who you rely on in the international system.

Well, US resumed import of Russian rocket engines. On the other hand, it's nothing that US cannot replace at short notice, if the seeming benefit of a war outweighs the losses.

[Nemo1024]

NATO holds reduced Black Sea naval exercises without Ukraine
http://rt.com/news/170380-sea-breeze-2014-bulgaria/


US sanctions are new type of offensive weapon – Russia’s Deputy FM
http://rt.com/politics/170424-us-sanctions-weapon-russia/

Russia's leading diplomat in charge of relations with the US has called Washington’s policy of sanctions “a new offensive strategic weapon”, and warned that Russia was preparing a response, albeit not a mirror one.

“Sanctions, both declared and undeclared, are being used against a wider circle of countries and on a wider scale. I have an impression that the Washington power circles had come to the conclusion that it is sometimes simpler and cheaper to impose sanctions on some nation than use a conventional military force against it,” Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said in an interview with the influential business daily Kommersant.

[arbitrage001]

US will probably do something stupid and provoke Russia into invading another country that sided with US.

Global war is unlikely to happen. But that doesn't mean Russia's neighbors and Europe won't suffer.

It has never been closer to WW3 since 1942, and you say that global was is unlikely to happen? Cmon everyone can feel the tensions going around the world. China, Russia, India and North Korea are just waiting for the clap to start war.

I think that sport is reserved for the Cuban crisis.

For both China and India , a ww3 is the worst thing that could happen , they are far more interested in economical growth and trade than war

WW3 is good if it happen on someone else soil and the export country can sell their trinkets at premium price with less competition.

[deisik]

US sanctions are new type of offensive weapon – Russia’s Deputy FM
http://rt.com/politics/170424-us-sanctions-weapon-russia/

Russia's leading diplomat in charge of relations with the US has called Washington’s policy of sanctions “a new offensive strategic weapon”, and warned that Russia was preparing a response, albeit not a mirror one.

“Sanctions, both declared and undeclared, are being used against a wider circle of countries and on a wider scale. I have an impression that the Washington power circles had come to the conclusion that it is sometimes simpler and cheaper to impose sanctions on some nation than use a conventional military force against it,” Deputy Foreign Minister Sergey Ryabkov said in an interview with the influential business daily Kommersant.

Will Russia persuade China to sell the giant stock of the U.S. treasuries it has in possession?  

[bryant.coleman]

Will Russia persuade China to sell the giant stock of the U.S. treasuries it has in possession?  

Why should China sell them at a loss? Right now the demand for US treasury bonds are at an all-time low. If China unloads a few trillion worth of bonds, there will be simply no buyers to mop them up.

[Lethn]

Will Russia persuade China to sell the giant stock of the U.S. treasuries it has in possession?  

Why should China sell them at a loss? Right now the demand for US treasury bonds are at an all-time low. If China unloads a few trillion worth of bonds, there will be simply no buyers to mop them up.

That's the whole point, they're worthless so they're trying to get rid of them, to be honest, might as well just burn them all or something, it would make a pretty powerful statement too.

[arbitrage001]

Will Russia persuade China to sell the giant stock of the U.S. treasuries it has in possession?  

Why should China sell them at a loss? Right now the demand for US treasury bonds are at an all-time low. If China unloads a few trillion worth of bonds, there will be simply no buyers to mop them up.

The loss is already there. Selling the bond and swap it for something of value is better than letting the loss run unchecked.

[bryant.coleman]

That's the whole point, they're worthless so they're trying to get rid of them, to be honest, might as well just burn them all or something, it would make a pretty powerful statement too.

The loss is already there. Selling the bond and swap it for something of value is better than letting the loss run unchecked.

A large part of their Forex reserves is in the form of US treasury bonds. And we should remember that China still uses the US Dollar for a large majority of its foreign trade. At the most, they might decide to refrain from buying any more bonds. I don't think they will reduce their bond stockpiles.

[Nemo1024]

Here it comes:

Hillary Clinton classified Putin as "dangerous" and urges the West to send him a "clear signal":

http://www.rbc.ru/rbcfreenews/20140706202022.shtml

I hope that "clear signal" does not involve Uranium.

[Nemo1024]

Oh, look, EU agreed to new level of sanctions against Russia for protesting against ethnic cleansing and mass murders of ethnic Russians by EU- and US-backed Nazis in Ukraine:
http://www.interfax.ru/world/384555