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January 13, 2012, 10:52:30 AM
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I was taking a tour of a very large server room feeling a bit insignificant in comparison so felt I needed an idea that could turn into an epic project. I would like to merge Crypto-currency hashing with competitive and exponentially growing AI.

I know that we have computers that play chess and can beat the worlds most advanced human chess players for example deep blue vs kasparov but I would like the explore taking this to the next level in a peer 2 peer project.

The network would be secured with hashing in a similar way to how existing coins operate but the rewards mechanism would be tied to massively multiplayer games of chess. The chess board would start off small but would grow as more players entered. To start a game you would need to spend a coin (either a bitcoin or a coin from this alt chain) this would help discourage players taking up to many sides. You would also need to find a way to discourage alliances.

It could be that once one side engages another side they are locked into battle with each other until one side is defeated or it could be constant all against all war. This is just getting some ideas.

Overall the idea of the network is to encourage competition to increase the AI rather than just the hashing power.

Does anyone have any suggestions, comments, ideas etc?


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January 14, 2012, 10:59:43 PM
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lolwut Huh

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January 15, 2012, 01:04:55 AM
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lolwut Huh
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January 15, 2012, 02:31:15 AM
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You need proof-of-work that is difficult to compute, but easy to verify. Do you have that?
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January 15, 2012, 05:13:50 AM
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i'd prefer AgeOfEmpiresCoin.

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January 15, 2012, 05:23:45 AM
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It'd be more interesting if 1 coin was equal to x amount of human work. Do 1 hour of an activity, get a coin that is redeemable for the same amount of time in the future. Would be very hard to check though -- people make mistakes and such.

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January 15, 2012, 09:32:45 AM
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OK I don't know exactly how it would work but the idea is to encourage competition to make more and more powerful chess playing AI.

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January 15, 2012, 09:47:07 AM
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Ok, but no.
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January 15, 2012, 09:59:39 AM
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1.  Wait for multisig transactions.
2.  Each player throws down a bitcoin to a m-of-n escrow address.  The private keys for this address are distributed throughout the network.
3.  Each move is added to the block, similar to bitcoin transactions, signed by the private key that sent the bitcoin deposit.  Validation occurs according to the rules of chess.
4.  Once the game is decided, the distributed private keys are used to release the bitcoins to the winner.
5.  Base it on libbitcoin instead of bitcoind and provide language bindings.
6.  Chess wars!  Play AI vs. AI, Human vs. AI, or Human vs. Human.

Throw out block rewards, there is no need for a coin concept here, but the blockchain concept is gold, especially if you could take a small cut of the pot from each game to pay bitcoin transaction fees, and ideally pay for a merged mining hash on the bitcoin chain.

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January 18, 2012, 01:53:03 PM
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i like ops idea:)

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January 18, 2012, 02:02:19 PM
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1.  Wait for multisig transactions.
2.  Each player throws down a bitcoin to a m-of-n escrow address.  The private keys for this address are distributed throughout the network.
3.  Each move is added to the block, similar to bitcoin transactions, signed by the private key that sent the bitcoin deposit.  Validation occurs according to the rules of chess.
4.  Once the game is decided, the distributed private keys are used to release the bitcoins to the winner.
5.  Base it on libbitcoin instead of bitcoind and provide language bindings.
6.  Chess wars!  Play AI vs. AI, Human vs. AI, or Human vs. Human.

Throw out block rewards, there is no need for a coin concept here, but the blockchain concept is gold, especially if you could take a small cut of the pot from each game to pay bitcoin transaction fees, and ideally pay for a merged mining hash on the bitcoin chain.

This is a good idea. I thought someone would suggest using bitcoins instead of starting yet another coin.

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January 18, 2012, 02:24:36 PM
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1.  Wait for multisig transactions.
2.  Each player throws down a bitcoin to a m-of-n escrow address.  The private keys for this address are distributed throughout the network.
3.  Each move is added to the block, similar to bitcoin transactions, signed by the private key that sent the bitcoin deposit.  Validation occurs according to the rules of chess.
4.  Once the game is decided, the distributed private keys are used to release the bitcoins to the winner.
5.  Base it on libbitcoin instead of bitcoind and provide language bindings.
6.  Chess wars!  Play AI vs. AI, Human vs. AI, or Human vs. Human.

Throw out block rewards, there is no need for a coin concept here, but the blockchain concept is gold, especially if you could take a small cut of the pot from each game to pay bitcoin transaction fees, and ideally pay for a merged mining hash on the bitcoin chain.

This is a good idea. I thought someone would suggest using bitcoins instead of starting yet another coin.

I really like this idea but chess would be mastered in no time.. what if we did this with Go. A game that computers right now cant even touch humans... ?

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January 19, 2012, 06:29:25 AM
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Instead of Chess I would suggest Arimaa. A game that offers a challenge for AI. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arimaa or http://arimaa.com/

Although I hope this is all just a joke. I don't see how you would use game playing to secure the network.

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January 19, 2012, 10:01:46 AM
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Instead of Chess I would suggest Arimaa. A game that offers a challenge for AI. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arimaa or http://arimaa.com/

Although I hope this is all just a joke. I don't see how you would use game playing to secure the network.


Game playing doesn't secure the network... The network just serves as a move validator and scoreboard.

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January 19, 2012, 11:53:02 AM
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anyone want to work on this? its beyond anything i can do sadly.

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