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January 13, 2012, 07:43:48 PM
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Is it possible that the mathematician we know as Satoshi Nakamoto can be found here: http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/

And if so, I think the real identity can be gleaned in less than 24 hours. I've narrowed the list down to 114 candidates by searching the keyword 'cryptography' generating the results shown here: http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/results.php? A new list can be created if one searches a different keyword or phrase here: http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/search.php

The list can easily be whittled down by eliminating names of women, if that's a safe assumption. The idea is that somebody here may recognize a name, thus putting two and two together--connecting the dots, if you will.

Even if this proves to be a dead end, I believe something could come out of the use of this site. It's the first time I've encountered it and find it rather fascinating.

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Your search has found 114 records in our database.

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Adhikari, Avishek            Indian Statistical Institute, Kolkata             2004
Applebaum, Benny          Technion-Israel Institute of Technology       2007
Arrighi, Pablo                 University of Cambridge                            2004
Avoine, Gildas                École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne   2005
Aydos, Murat                 Oregon State University                           2001
Baier, Harald                 Technische Universität Darmstadt               2002
Bak, Daniella                 City University of New York                        2000
Barak, Boaz                  Weizmann Institute of Science                    2004
Batina, Lejla                 Katholieke Universiteit Leuven                     2005
Benits, Jr., Waldyr         Royal Holloway, University of London            2008
Bentahar, Kamel            University of Bristol                                   2008
Bisson, Gaetan             Technische Universiteit Eindhoven                2011
Bisson, Gaetan             Institut National Polytechnique de Lorraine     2011
Bone, Eric                    Brandeis University                                    2004
Boneh, Dan                  Princeton University                                  1996
Brassard, Gilles             Cornell University                                      1979             (Too Old?)
Bregman, Ido               Hebrew University                                      2009
Broadbent, Anne          Université de Montréal                                2008
Cachin, Christian          Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule Zürich 1997
Chandran, Nishanth       University of California, Los Angeles              2011
Chee, Yeow Meng   University of Waterloo   1996
Chor, Ben-Zion   Massachusetts Institute of Technology   1985
Ciet, Mathieu   Université Catholique de Louvain   2003
Cohen, Aaron   University of Minnesota-Minneapolis   2007
Condie, Leisa   University of New South Wales   1992
Cusak, Charles   University of Nebraska-Lincoln   2000
Damgĺrd, Ivan   Aarhus University   1988
Dechene, Isabelle   McGill University   2005
Desmedt, Yvo   Katholieke Universiteit Leuven   1984
Dodis, Yevgeniy   Massachusetts Institute of Technology   2000
Döring, Martin   Technische Universität Darmstadt   2008
Doumen, Jeroen   Technische Universiteit Eindhoven   2003
Eagle, Philip   Royal Holloway, University of London   2008
Fernández Rúa, Ignacio   Universidad de Oviedo   2004
Freeman, David   University of California, Berkeley   2008
Freking, William   University of Minnesota-Minneapolis   2000
Gastaud Gallagher, Nicolas   Georgia Institute of Technology   2007
Giuliani, Kenneth   University of Waterloo   2005
Green, Matthew   The Johns Hopkins University   2008
Greenfield, Jonathan   Syracuse University   1993
Grundy, Dan   University of Kent, Canterbury   2008
Gysin, Marc   University of Wollongong   1998
Halsey, James   North Carolina State University   1970                  (Too Old?)
Hardjono, Thomas   University of New South Wales   1991
Heindl, Raymond   Clemson University   2009
Henhapl, Birgit   Technische Universität Darmstadt   2003
Herzog, Jonathan   Massachusetts Institute of Technology   2004
Hitt, Laura   University of Texas at Austin   2007
Hsiao, Chun-Yuan   Boston University Graduate School   2010
Juma, Ali   University of Toronto   2011
Kaliski, Jr., Burton   Massachusetts Institute of Technology   1988
Kalka, Arkadius   Ruhr-Universität Bochum   2007
Kanukurthi, Bhavana   Boston University Graduate School   2011
Kaps, Jens-Peter   Worcester Polytechnic Institute   2006
Karabina, Koray   University of Waterloo   2010
Khadra, Anmar   University of Waterloo   2004
Kiayias, Aggelos   City University of New York   2002
Klima, Richard   North Carolina State University   1997
Klimov, Alexander   Weizmann Institute of Science   2005
Ködmön, József   University of Debrecen   2005
Koskinen, Jukka   Lappeenranta University of Technology   1994
Kumar, Sandeep   Ruhr-Universität Bochum   2006
Laskari, Elena   University of Patras   2010
Liskov, Moses   Massachusetts Institute of Technology   2004
Livne, Noam   Weizmann Institute of Science   2010
Lu, Steve   University of California, Los Angeles   2009
Mashatan, Atefeh   University of Waterloo   2009
Maurer, Ueli   Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule Zürich   1990
Minder, Lorenz   École Polytechnique Fédérale de Lausanne   2007
Mironov, Ilya   Stanford University   2003
Möller, Bodo   Technische Universität Darmstadt   2003
Monico, Christopher   University of Notre Dame   2002
Montanari, Andrea   Universitŕ degli Studi di Perugia   2010
Moran, Tal   Weizmann Institute of Science   2008
Myers, Steven   University of Toronto   2005
Nance, Jr., John   North Carolina State University   1972                      (Too Old?)
Neat, Charlie   University of California, Los Angeles   1975                    (Too Old?)
Overbeck, Raphael   Technische Universität Darmstadt   2007
Papakonstantinou, Periklis   University of Toronto   2010
Park, Je-Hong   Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology   2004
Park, Seung Kook   University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign   2007
Peralta, Rene   University of California, Berkeley   1985
Peters, Christiane   Technische Universiteit Eindhoven   2011
Petkova, Maria   Humboldt-Universität zu Berlin   2009
Qu, Chengxin   University of Wollongong   2000
Rŕfols, Carla   Universitat Politčcnica de Catalunya   2011
Rhouma, Rhouma   École Nationale d'Ingénieurs de Tunis   2008
Ritzenhofen, Maike   Ruhr-Universität Bochum   2010
Rodriguez-Henriquez, Francisco   Oregon State University   2000
Savas, Erkay   Oregon State University   2000
Schaffner, Christian   Aarhus University   2007
Scheidler, Renate   University of Manitoba   1993
Schillewaert, Jeroen   Universiteit Gent   2009
Schwabe, Peter   Technische Universiteit Eindhoven   2011
Shaheen, Rasha   Cairo University   2010
Shang, Ning   Purdue University   2009
Shen, Shuo   Purdue University   2007
Shershin, Carmen   University of Miami   1982
Shokrollahi, Jamshid   Rheinische Friedrich-Wilhelms-Universität Bonn   2006
Sigmon, Neil   North Carolina State University   1995
Stebila, Douglas   University of Waterloo   2009
Sunar, Berk   Oregon State University   1998
Tawalbeh, Lo'ai   Oregon State University   2004
Teague, Vanessa   Stanford University   2005
Thomas, Tony   Indian Institute of Technology, Kanpur   2006
Toli, Ilia   Universitŕ di Pisa   2004
Wehner, Stephanie   Universiteit van Amsterdam   2008
Weis, Stephen   Massachusetts Institute of Technology   2006
Wolf, Christopher   Katholieke Universiteit Leuven   2005
Wolf, Stefan   Eidgenössische Technische Hochschule Zürich   1999
Wyseur, Brecht   Katholieke Universiteit Leuven   2009
Yao, Chui Zhi   University of California, Riverside   2008
Zuccherato, Robert   University of Waterloo   1997
Zumbrägel, Jens   Universität Zürich   2008
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January 13, 2012, 08:18:28 PM
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I predict you will be assassinated before that 24 hours is up if you're correct. 8D

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January 13, 2012, 09:06:48 PM
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I predict you will be assassinated before that 24 hours is up if you're correct. 8D

I've had real guns to my head before and even taunted one guy, screaming at him to pull the frickin' trigger, all to no avail. Maybe today I'll get lucky.
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I've had real guns to my head before and even taunted one guy, screaming at him to pull the frickin' trigger, all to no avail. Maybe today I'll get lucky.


Hahaha well you could always nominate yourself and make donations on an assassination market if you really wanted to make it happen. 8O or perhaps there is a more peaceful way out at kavorkiancoin.com?

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MagicalTux is Satoshi Nakamoto, of course. English speaker in Japan, who else would choose a Japanese name for a Pseudonym? Runs the big exchange and has extracted the forum from his former alias by "acquiring" it with MtGox...
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January 13, 2012, 09:41:10 PM
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So, what you're saying is that not one of the following could be Satoshi Nakamot? search 'cryptography' here: http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/search.php
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MIT has six people in that list, compared to my alma mater's five....

でも私も日本語が分ります。
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January 13, 2012, 09:58:06 PM
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MIT has six people in that list, compared to my alma mater's five....

でもわたしも日本語がわかります。

Do you think Satoshi attended MIT?
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Do you think Satoshi attended MIT?
Note that the list is graduates in mathematics, not computer science or electrical and computer engineering.
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Together, let's do process of elimination. I'm crossing out all 2010 and 2011 graduates, as well as names of women in list. Who else and why should I cross off a name? Should I cross off the 2009 graduates as well? What about certain universities?

I'm whittling down the list in the OP.

(the list was originally here)
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I'd say Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym for something. Maybe a Thomas Nakamoto (I didn't decrypt that), or even something entirely different or unrelated. If he really cared about anonymity and cryptography, there would be some really elaborate scheme. I'm a firm believer that he is an active member of the community.

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I'd say Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym for something. Maybe a Thomas Nakamoto (I didn't decrypt that), or even something entirely different or unrelated. If he really cared about anonymity and cryptography, there would be some really elaborate scheme. I'm a firm believer that he is an active member of the community.

I believe that's he's active on this forum as well. In the mean time, give me a direction to whittle down this list, even if it's a dead end.
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Do you think Satoshi attended MIT?
Note that the list is graduates in mathematics, not computer science or electrical and computer engineering.

Just saw your post. But it does show their interest in cryptography. http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/mission.php

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Please notice: Throughout this project when we use the word "mathematics" or "mathematician" we mean that word in a very inclusive sense. Thus, all relevant data from statistics, computer science, or operations research is welcome.
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MagicalTux is Satoshi Nakamoto, of course. English speaker in Japan, who else would choose a Japanese name for a Pseudonym? Runs the big exchange and has extracted the forum from his former alias by "acquiring" it with MtGox...

When I tried to say that they all jumped "crazy" on me. Probably true. In the end we find out all this was the most elaborate P&D ponzi scheme rivaling Bernie.

Quite strage to go from trading Pokemons to Bitcoins, don't you think ?
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See who has an interest in proof-of-work, multiple hashing, partial hash collisions, merkle trees, randomness statistics, and maybe someone who has some wxWidgets programming or even Japanese in their coursework. Bonus hint: email spam micropayments.
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I'd say Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym for something. Maybe a Thomas Nakamoto (I didn't decrypt that), or even something entirely different or unrelated. If he really cared about anonymity and cryptography, there would be some really elaborate scheme. I'm a firm believer that he is an active member of the community.

I believe that's he's active on this forum as well. In the mean time, give me a direction to whittle down this list, even if it's a dead end.


That is a tough one. Generally, I don't think that the generalization you made of 'mathematics' was the way to go. Computer science would give the traits for cryptography and programming needed, but a true understanding of the cryptography may only come from mathematics. Maybe broadening your search while narrowing it is the way to go (makes sense, eh?)

I think
major- computer science
minor- mathematics, cryptography (if possible) or something.

It might just be some extreme genius with no formal training though. You can learn programming by yourself, but cryptography is a bit harder. IMO he had to have come from a 'big' school MIT or international equiv. Or no school at all.

I also wouldn't want to knock the Japanese reference. Or the idea that this is all a crypt for us to decode.

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January 13, 2012, 11:07:33 PM
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MagicalTux is Satoshi Nakamoto, of course. English speaker in Japan, who else would choose a Japanese name for a Pseudonym? Runs the big exchange and has extracted the forum from his former alias by "acquiring" it with MtGox...

When I tried to say that they all jumped "crazy" on me. Probably true. In the end we find out all this was the most elaborate P&D ponzi scheme rivaling Bernie.

Quite strage to go from trading Pokemons to Bitcoins, don't you think ?

If the following is true, is it safe to have funds stored there?

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Shutting down "single point of failures" (exchanges, pools, miners) would be enough to stop it.
Right now, 90% of BTC exchange volume is being processed via mtgox.com. If a government shuts it down, all money from the mtgox.com wallet is lost forever, both "virtual" BTC and "real" US dollars and Euro.
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I predict you will be assassinated before that 24 hours is up if you're correct. 8D

I've had real guns to my head before and even taunted one guy, screaming at him to pull the frickin' trigger, all to no avail. Maybe today I'll get lucky.


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MagicalTux is Satoshi Nakamoto, of course. English speaker in Japan, who else would choose a Japanese name for a Pseudonym? Runs the big exchange and has extracted the forum from his former alias by "acquiring" it with MtGox...



Does fit a good description, but is kinda obvious also while operating the biggest exchange around, I don't think that Satoshi would 'cash in' so to speak on the exchange.

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I'd say Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym for something. Maybe a Thomas Nakamoto (I didn't decrypt that), or even something entirely different or unrelated. If he really cared about anonymity and cryptography, there would be some really elaborate scheme. I'm a firm believer that he is an active member of the community.

I believe that's he's active on this forum as well. In the mean time, give me a direction to whittle down this list, even if it's a dead end.


That is a tough one. Generally, I don't think that the generalization you made of 'mathematics' was the way to go. Computer science would give the traits for cryptography and programming needed, but a true understanding of the cryptography may only come from mathematics. Maybe broadening your search while narrowing it is the way to go (makes sense, eh?)

I think
major- computer science
minor- mathematics, cryptography (if possible) or something.

It might just be some extreme genius with no formal training though. You can learn programming by yourself, but cryptography is a bit harder. IMO he had to have come from a 'big' school MIT or international equiv. Or no school at all.

I also wouldn't want to knock the Japanese reference. Or the idea that this is all a crypt for us to decode.

Doing a search on that site only brings up dissertations that have the keyword in it. "Commuter Science" only generates the following 29 graduates: (do any of these names look familiar?)

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Almstrum, Vicki   University of Texas at Austin   1994
Arch, John   University of Oregon   1983
Asperti, Andrea   Universitŕ di Pisa   1989
Burr, Michael   New York University   2010
Dai, Jack   Iowa State University   2001
Dixon, Gayle   Columbia University   2001
Frias, Marcelo   Pontifícia Universidade Católica do Rio de Janeiro   1998
Goodness, Jeanne   Vanderbilt University   1990
Gottlob, Georg   Technische Universität Wien   1981
Greer, James   University of Texas at Austin   1987
Guzo, Andrew   Columbia University   1989
Hajebi, Mojgan   Oregon State University   2001
Hasle, Per   Aarhus University   1989
Hernandez Martinez, Paul   University of Leeds   2006
Hidvegi, Zoltan   University of Texas at Austin   2007
Hirsch, Michael   University of California, Berkeley   1990
Kao, Gio   University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign   2008
Kurz, Alexander   Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München   2000
Lemin, Vladimir   The Pennsylvania State University   2002
O'Lander, Richard   Columbia University   1994
Olson, David   University of Oregon   1986
Priebe, Roger   University of Texas at Austin   1997
Pulliam, Sylvia   Vanderbilt University   1992
Salisbury, Mark   University of Oregon   1986
Schuster, Daniel   University of Texas at Austin   1996
Shao, Yilei   Princeton University   2007
Wei, Wan-Di   University of Nebraska-Lincoln   1996
Xiang, Gang   University of Texas at El Paso   2007
Yasuhara, Ken   University of Washington   2007
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