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I'd say Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym for something. Maybe a Thomas Nakamoto (I didn't decrypt that), or even something entirely different or unrelated. If he really cared about anonymity and cryptography, there would be some really elaborate scheme. I'm a firm believer that he is an active member of the community.
I believe that's he's active on this forum as well. In the mean time, give me a direction to whittle down this list, even if it's a dead end. That is a tough one. Generally, I don't think that the generalization you made of 'mathematics' was the way to go. Computer science would give the traits for cryptography and programming needed, but a true understanding of the cryptography may only come from mathematics. Maybe broadening your search while narrowing it is the way to go (makes sense, eh?) I think major- computer science minor- mathematics, cryptography (if possible) or something. It might just be some extreme genius with no formal training though. You can learn programming by yourself, but cryptography is a bit harder. IMO he had to have come from a 'big' school MIT or international equiv. Or no school at all. I also wouldn't want to knock the Japanese reference. Or the idea that this is all a crypt for us to decode. Doing a search on that site only brings up dissertations that have the keyword in it. "Commuter Science" only generates the following 29 graduates: (do any of these names look familiar?)Almstrum, Vicki University of Texas at Austin 1994 Arch, John University of Oregon 1983 Asperti, Andrea Università di Pisa 1989 Burr, Michael New York University 2010 Dai, Jack Iowa State University 2001 Dixon, Gayle Columbia University 2001 Frias, Marcelo Pontifícia Universidade Católica do Rio de Janeiro 1998 Goodness, Jeanne Vanderbilt University 1990 Gottlob, Georg Technische Universität Wien 1981 Greer, James University of Texas at Austin 1987 Guzo, Andrew Columbia University 1989 Hajebi, Mojgan Oregon State University 2001 Hasle, Per Aarhus University 1989 Hernandez Martinez, Paul University of Leeds 2006 Hidvegi, Zoltan University of Texas at Austin 2007 Hirsch, Michael University of California, Berkeley 1990 Kao, Gio University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 2008 Kurz, Alexander Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München 2000 Lemin, Vladimir The Pennsylvania State University 2002 O'Lander, Richard Columbia University 1994 Olson, David University of Oregon 1986 Priebe, Roger University of Texas at Austin 1997 Pulliam, Sylvia Vanderbilt University 1992 Salisbury, Mark University of Oregon 1986 Schuster, Daniel University of Texas at Austin 1996 Shao, Yilei Princeton University 2007 Wei, Wan-Di University of Nebraska-Lincoln 1996 Xiang, Gang University of Texas at El Paso 2007 Yasuhara, Ken University of Washington 2007 Commuter Science or Computer Science?
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January 14, 2012, 12:02:26 AM |
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I'd say Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym for something. Maybe a Thomas Nakamoto (I didn't decrypt that), or even something entirely different or unrelated. If he really cared about anonymity and cryptography, there would be some really elaborate scheme. I'm a firm believer that he is an active member of the community.
I believe that's he's active on this forum as well. In the mean time, give me a direction to whittle down this list, even if it's a dead end. That is a tough one. Generally, I don't think that the generalization you made of 'mathematics' was the way to go. Computer science would give the traits for cryptography and programming needed, but a true understanding of the cryptography may only come from mathematics. Maybe broadening your search while narrowing it is the way to go (makes sense, eh?) I think major- computer science minor- mathematics, cryptography (if possible) or something. It might just be some extreme genius with no formal training though. You can learn programming by yourself, but cryptography is a bit harder. IMO he had to have come from a 'big' school MIT or international equiv. Or no school at all. I also wouldn't want to knock the Japanese reference. Or the idea that this is all a crypt for us to decode. Doing a search on that site only brings up dissertations that have the keyword in it. "Commuter Science" only generates the following 29 graduates: (do any of these names look familiar?)Almstrum, Vicki University of Texas at Austin 1994 Arch, John University of Oregon 1983 Asperti, Andrea Università di Pisa 1989 Burr, Michael New York University 2010 Dai, Jack Iowa State University 2001 Dixon, Gayle Columbia University 2001 Frias, Marcelo Pontifícia Universidade Católica do Rio de Janeiro 1998 Goodness, Jeanne Vanderbilt University 1990 Gottlob, Georg Technische Universität Wien 1981 Greer, James University of Texas at Austin 1987 Guzo, Andrew Columbia University 1989 Hajebi, Mojgan Oregon State University 2001 Hasle, Per Aarhus University 1989 Hernandez Martinez, Paul University of Leeds 2006 Hidvegi, Zoltan University of Texas at Austin 2007 Hirsch, Michael University of California, Berkeley 1990 Kao, Gio University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 2008 Kurz, Alexander Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München 2000 Lemin, Vladimir The Pennsylvania State University 2002 O'Lander, Richard Columbia University 1994 Olson, David University of Oregon 1986 Priebe, Roger University of Texas at Austin 1997 Pulliam, Sylvia Vanderbilt University 1992 Salisbury, Mark University of Oregon 1986 Schuster, Daniel University of Texas at Austin 1996 Shao, Yilei Princeton University 2007 Wei, Wan-Di University of Nebraska-Lincoln 1996 Xiang, Gang University of Texas at El Paso 2007 Yasuhara, Ken University of Washington 2007 Commuter Science or Computer Science? For a second there, I though I screwed up. The list is of computer science dissertations. I only spelled it incorrectly once.
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January 14, 2012, 12:10:51 AM |
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I'd say Satoshi Nakamoto is a pseudonym for something. Maybe a Thomas Nakamoto (I didn't decrypt that), or even something entirely different or unrelated. If he really cared about anonymity and cryptography, there would be some really elaborate scheme. I'm a firm believer that he is an active member of the community.
I believe that's he's active on this forum as well. In the mean time, give me a direction to whittle down this list, even if it's a dead end. That is a tough one. Generally, I don't think that the generalization you made of 'mathematics' was the way to go. Computer science would give the traits for cryptography and programming needed, but a true understanding of the cryptography may only come from mathematics. Maybe broadening your search while narrowing it is the way to go (makes sense, eh?) I think major- computer science minor- mathematics, cryptography (if possible) or something. It might just be some extreme genius with no formal training though. You can learn programming by yourself, but cryptography is a bit harder. IMO he had to have come from a 'big' school MIT or international equiv. Or no school at all. I also wouldn't want to knock the Japanese reference. Or the idea that this is all a crypt for us to decode. Doing a search on that site only brings up dissertations that have the keyword in it. "Commuter Science" only generates the following 29 graduates: (do any of these names look familiar?)Almstrum, Vicki University of Texas at Austin 1994 Arch, John University of Oregon 1983 Asperti, Andrea Università di Pisa 1989 Burr, Michael New York University 2010 Dai, Jack Iowa State University 2001 Dixon, Gayle Columbia University 2001 Frias, Marcelo Pontifícia Universidade Católica do Rio de Janeiro 1998 Goodness, Jeanne Vanderbilt University 1990 Gottlob, Georg Technische Universität Wien 1981 Greer, James University of Texas at Austin 1987 Guzo, Andrew Columbia University 1989 Hajebi, Mojgan Oregon State University 2001 Hasle, Per Aarhus University 1989 Hernandez Martinez, Paul University of Leeds 2006 Hidvegi, Zoltan University of Texas at Austin 2007 Hirsch, Michael University of California, Berkeley 1990 Kao, Gio University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign 2008 Kurz, Alexander Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München 2000 Lemin, Vladimir The Pennsylvania State University 2002 O'Lander, Richard Columbia University 1994 Olson, David University of Oregon 1986 Priebe, Roger University of Texas at Austin 1997 Pulliam, Sylvia Vanderbilt University 1992 Salisbury, Mark University of Oregon 1986 Schuster, Daniel University of Texas at Austin 1996 Shao, Yilei Princeton University 2007 Wei, Wan-Di University of Nebraska-Lincoln 1996 Xiang, Gang University of Texas at El Paso 2007 Yasuhara, Ken University of Washington 2007 Commuter Science or Computer Science? For a second there, I though I screwed up. The list is of computer science dissertations. I only spelled it incorrectly once. Ahhh... Well if it is anyone on the list, which I doubt, I'd have to pick one of the individuals that graduated in 2006 or later. Much earlier wouldn't make too much sense to me.
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If you love me, you'd give me a Satoshi! BTC - 1MSzGKh5znbrcEF2qTrtrWBm4ydH5eT49f LTC - LYeJrmYQQvt6gRQxrDz66XTwtkdodx9udz
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January 14, 2012, 01:31:02 AM |
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I predict you will be assassinated before that 24 hours is up if you're correct. 8D
More likely Satoshi will be assassinated and/or picked up by g-men. I suspect that is why he has not surfaced in so long.
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January 14, 2012, 04:49:05 AM |
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What are the chances that Satoshi Nakamoto wrote a dissertation? And if you think he did, what keyword would be in the title of his dissertation?
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January 14, 2012, 05:07:57 AM |
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What are the chances that Satoshi Nakamoto wrote a dissertation? And if you think he did, what keyword would be in the title of his dissertation?
Game theory: Extracting wealth from a globally-distributed crypto-ponzi?
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January 14, 2012, 05:27:50 AM Last edit: January 14, 2012, 05:59:06 AM by Phinnaeus Gage |
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http://www.yatedo.fr/p/Kurt+Huang/famous/0e8eef658b0257fb6ed449cc8678a8aaKurt Huang is co-founder, president, and chief product officer of BitPass. He has a Computer Science degree from Harvard and an MD from Stanford. Named to the 2004 list of the world's 100 Top Young Innovators by MIT's Technology Review magazine. Haibo Huang: http://genealogy.math.ndsu.nodak.edu/id.php?id=123114or http://repositories.lib.utexas.edu/bitstream/handle/2152/2444/huangd92682.pdf?sequence=2Dissertation: Essays in Electronic Money and Banking (2005)Abstract:
This paper provides insight on how a modern system of private electronic money would work and how the necessary network shall function. We present a model with two types of private electronic currencies with one being local, and the other being global. Both of them display transactional advantages and dominate fiat money in rate of return. However, in spite of these different returns, the two electronic currencies and fiat money circulate in equilibrium. We further observe that the local electronic currency can be sold with a premium or with a discount, depending on several factors including the probability of relocation faced by the agents in this economy. The higher the probability of relocation, the higher is this discount, and the lower the share of the local electronic currency in the young creditors’ portfolio. In this paper, we focus our attention on some particular aspects of the micropayment system, i.e.: the Internet payments system for the micro-products market. As of today, we do observe three different niches in this market. In the first niche, the sellers are packaging their micro-products in the form of subscriptions, thus increasing the value of individual transactions, so that electronic equivalents of fiat money can be used as media of exchange. In the second niche, we find micro-payment companies playing the role of intermediaries between sellers and buyers; they operate in very different ways. For example, BitPass requires consumers to open and transfer money to an account; the credit card fee is hence only charged to this single transaction of funding the account; as consumers with accounts buy micro-products, merchants need to pay 15% of the value of each transaction to the Micropayment intermediaries, i.e. BitPass in our example. Maybe all a dead end, but it'll get you a thinkin'! http://www.giiresearch.com/report/mag210198-solving-micropayments-problem-minimizing-impact.htmlCompanies mentioned in this report include: Amazon, Visa, MasterCard, American Express, Discover, Apple, PaymentOne, Zong, eBay, Microsoft, Facebook, Wall Street Journal, New York Times, PayPal, Starbucks, Google, Napster, Rhapsody, Netflix, DigiCash, CyberCash, ESPN, Playboy, First Virtual Holdings, Beenz, Flooz, IBM, Compaq, Digital Equipment Corporation, Peppercoin, Chockstone, BitPass, Clickandbuy, Zynga, OMGPOP, Boku, Electronic Arts, Aeria Games, Playdom, Zoosk, Flattr, Square, Twitter, BitCoin, Electronic Frontier Foundation, Mazooma, and Dwolla. I just uploaded pdf and KeyNote versions of the talk I gave at the CIA last Tuesday: https://s3.amazonaws.com/gavinandresen-bitcoin/GavinAndresenCIATalk.pdf https://s3.amazonaws.com/gavinandresen-bitcoin/GavinAndresen_Bitcoin.keyI took questions in the middle, before I dove into the technical details. I was asked about whether or not I thought price instability would be a problem ("yes, I'll talk about that later") and how/why I got involved. Later, at the panel discussion, I was asked a question that showed I need to do a better job of distinguishing bitcoin addresses and IP addresses. And I was asked if there were moral issues, since bitcoin can be used by criminals ("I'm working on bitcoin because I think the potential benefits to the world are much, much greater than the costs.") The other speakers were from PayPal, Facebook Payments, M-Pesa, Heartland Payment Systems, and the Federal Reserve, so it was worth going just for the connections. Bitcoin is definitely the new kid on the block, and I presented it as such; not "bitcoin will take over the world" but "bitcoin is a very interesting experiment that could be world-changing if it works out." And now... there is plenty of work to be done, so I'm going to stop reminiscing about the good old days last week.... Heartland Payment Systems purchased Chockstone which purchased Peppercoin.
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January 14, 2012, 06:21:05 AM |
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Feels like watching Sherlok Holmes 3... Go go Phinnaeus Gage...
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January 14, 2012, 07:06:31 AM |
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Feels like watching Sherlok Holmes 3... Go go Phinnaeus Gage...
NO! Really! Jacob Goldstein is truly Tom Williams! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) I wonder how much I can bribe theymos to have him ban me from this forum. ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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January 14, 2012, 07:15:05 PM |
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I though Shatoshi was his real name?
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January 14, 2012, 07:25:32 PM |
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Whoever he is, that guy outsmarted us all big time.
Having 1.5 MILLION BTC I find it hard to believe he is not the next digital Bernie !
It actually makes perfect sense. Control the biggest exchange so he can slowly cash out without us idiots noticing ?
Can anyone actually check how much coins he has and if they are spent etc. ?
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January 14, 2012, 07:35:29 PM |
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Whoever he is, that guy outsmarted us all big time.
Having 1.5 MILLION BTC I find it hard to believe he is not the next digital Bernie !
It actually makes perfect sense. Control the biggest exchange so he can slowly cash out without us idiots noticing ?
Can anyone actually check how much coins he has and if they are spent etc. ?
If, and only if satoshi owns fox, he wouldnt scam us. Bitcoin is his child, he wants it to succeed as a currency.
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If you love me, you'd give me a Satoshi! BTC - 1MSzGKh5znbrcEF2qTrtrWBm4ydH5eT49f LTC - LYeJrmYQQvt6gRQxrDz66XTwtkdodx9udz
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January 16, 2012, 07:34:05 AM Last edit: January 16, 2012, 07:44:22 AM by zer0 |
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Satoshi is clearly from the future and returned after starting BTC to cash out his eleventy billion coins into quatloos. Or it's Gavin + everybody else in early BTC dev
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January 23, 2012, 02:45:53 PM |
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Why are people so obsessed in revealing Satoshi? He obviously chose to stay anonymous, I respect that. If he chooses to come out at Bitcoin's fifth anniversary, great! There are good reasons to not have him public, think Assange. There is more on the news about the things he is accused of than about wikileaks..
Its a team of people anyway, Satoshi doesnt exist.
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January 23, 2012, 03:14:36 PM |
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Why are people so obsessed in revealing Satoshi? He obviously chose to stay anonymous, I respect that. If he chooses to come out at Bitcoin's fifth anniversary, great! There are good reasons to not have him public, think Assange. There is more on the news about the things he is accused of than about wikileaks..
Its a team of people anyway, Satoshi doesnt exist.
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Why are people so obsessed in revealing Satoshi? I can answer that in four words: Human Nature. The same could be asked as to why people need to prove that Jesus exist, when all he supposedly did was good for the human race. That said, a team of us are very close to solving this mystery. We've already successfully linked Freddie Mercury to Pavlov's Dog: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fhomepage.usask.ca%2F%7Elowey%2Fboots_pics%2Ffreddie_mercury_67.jpg&t=665&c=wWI0J8x4XosiMw)
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April 03, 2012, 01:22:09 AM |
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I believe I may have bumped into Satoshi Nakamoto in real life one day in the late 90's or early '00s.
we had a conversation while waiting in line. It was about computers, fixing the money system and a few other things that I forget now. Wish I knew where i put that business card.
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April 03, 2012, 01:34:27 AM |
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I believe I may have bumped into Satoshi Nakamoto in real life one day in the late 90's or early '00s.
we had a conversation while waiting in line. It was about computers, fixing the money system and a few other things that I forget now. Wish I knew where i put that business card.
I'll offer a 1 Satoshi bounty if you find that business card. Somebody please quote me, thereby locking this offer in stone. ~Bruno~
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April 03, 2012, 01:35:33 AM |
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I believe I may have bumped into Satoshi Nakamoto in real life one day in the late 90's or early '00s.
we had a conversation while waiting in line. It was about computers, fixing the money system and a few other things that I forget now. Wish I knew where i put that business card.
I'll offer a 1 Satoshi bounty if you find that business card. Somebody please quote me, thereby locking this offer in stone. ~Bruno~ Count me in for 1 satoshi, also.
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"The powers of financial capitalism had another far-reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences. The apex of the systems was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks which were themselves private corporations. Each central bank...sought to dominate its government by its ability to control Treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence cooperative politicians by subsequent economic rewards in the business world."
- Carroll Quigley, CFR member, mentor to Bill Clinton, from 'Tragedy And Hope'
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