don't use X11,it can be mined by Scrypt ASIC or fpga

[Johanna]

ltcgear.com is mining X11 (darkcoin) using FPGAs: http://ltcgear.com/product/x11-mod-m2/

That is nice, does it work?

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[xephyr]

Yes, works very well.

[djm34]

ltcgear.com is mining X11 (darkcoin) using FPGAs: http://ltcgear.com/product/x11-mod-m2/

That is nice, does it work?

how do you know it is fpga ? It could be anything... 
This is just some renting address...

[bensam123]

Definitely agree with the OP, regardless of whether or not FPGA/ASICs exist or not. Algos should be rotated in on a regular basis, we shouldn't idle on one single algo.

X11 came along, then x13, and x15, then NIST5 and fresh. Yet, the majority of coins are still being made for x11 and x15 and x13 to a certain degree completely fell off the map. After the debut of Fresh we haven't seen it since, the same with NIST5 (although there are a couple coins).

If people are making new coins on here, it goes without saying one of the newest algos should be used before they tote anything remotely resembling 'asic resistant'. You just don't know, so you should assume the worst. If there are FPGAs running right now it's big money to just keep their mouths shut and milk the shit out of whatever algo they've figured out.

I do know that profits for x11 are way down currently, the same thing happened before ASICs for SCRYPT ever hit the market. I don't even need to know they exist to know something fishy is going on here, just the same way the opening posts knows it. I'm sure most miners aren't willing to bet the farm anymore buying new GPUs or even buying off eBay, which just leaves someone who knows they can get ahead of the game.

I don't know if there are FPGAs or ASICs for sure, but if you're a coin dev and you believe what so ever in the small time mining community, you should be fucking making your coins with the newest algos. Maybe even a coin made around a algorithm that will constantly be built upon with newer algos. There is absolutely no reason to keep using older algos when new ones come out.

[Equate]

Definitely agree with the OP, regardless of whether or not FPGA/ASICs exist or not. Algos should be rotated in on a regular basis, we shouldn't idle on one single algo.

X11 came along, then x13, and x15, then NIST5 and fresh. Yet, the majority of coins are still being made for x11 and x15 and x13 to a certain degree completely fell off the map. After the debut of Fresh we haven't seen it since, the same with NIST5 (although there are a couple coins).

If people are making new coins on here, it goes without saying one of the newest algos should be used before they tote anything remotely resembling 'asic resistant'. You just don't know, so you should assume the worst. If there are FPGAs running right now it's big money to just keep their mouths shut and milk the shit out of whatever algo they've figured out.

I do know that profits for x11 are way down currently, the same thing happened before ASICs for SCRYPT ever hit the market. I don't even need to know they exist to know something fishy is going on here, just the same way the opening posts knows it. I'm sure most miners aren't willing to bet the farm anymore buying new GPUs or even buying off eBay, which just leaves someone who knows they can get ahead of the game.

I don't know if there are FPGAs or ASICs for sure, but if you're a coin dev and you believe what so ever in the small time mining community, you should be fucking making your coins with the newest algos. Maybe even a coin made around a algorithm that will constantly be built upon with newer algos. There is absolutely no reason to keep using older algos when new ones come out.

Though Asic resistance is favourable for miners and decentralization,  but even it cannot save the coin as in case of VTC which is struggling and devs now changing algo to Lyra.

[trader001]

This is quick. The algorithm is less than 6 months old and there is already ASIC for it.

[johnnyrocket]

You can build FPGAs for almost all existing altcoin algorithms. NIST5 and X11 both have had fully published chip/board designs for FPGAs for years, but there's zero real evidence that there are any commercially viable (aka cost effective) FPGAs actually mining. Whether it is worth the time or money to build them depends on the prevalence of an algorithm, and whether they are cost effective vs. GPUs.

The rise in network hashrates for X11 is primarily due to two factors: 1) GPU mining farms have moved from scrypt to X11, and 2) X11 GPU hashrates are becoming more optimized by the week (and are now ~5-6x scrypt hashrates.. so keep in mind that 6Gh X11 is really just 1Gh of scrypt GPU hashpower).

[bensam123]

Which is why it's important to keep changing up algorithms and not sit on just one. If it's a moving target, there is no time to hit the mark and eventually they just give up. It's not like there aren't new algos coming out. People just aren't making coins using them.

'Optimized' scrypt rates don't matter. As long as you have the kernel, you also have the same firepower as some big data center full of miners. That's why ASICs blow, because it's a constant upgrade game. If a giant data center full of miners has one GPU, it has the same profitability (make and model) as a solo miner with one GPU.

[Zeta0S]

Update: China is mining Darkcoin whit FPGa`s sinds April 2014

Today first X11 Asic`s miners: http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/cleverhash-bezig-bouw-x11-asic-miner

[djm34]

Update: China is mining Darkcoin whit FPGa`s sinds April 2014

Today first X11 Asic`s miners: http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/cleverhash-bezig-bouw-x11-asic-miner

Not Today... rather next year (if it works out   search cleverhash thread on the forum)
This is how rumors get propagated: someone see the words asics and x11 in the same article and don't even bother
to read the rest of the article  

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So I can be use to mine dark coin?

[bitLeap]

OP is a dumbass. That is all.

dumbass are those who try to fight science n technology how ironic it's being done by devs in crypto-tech (science) themselves (trying to fight advancement) - killing their coins in the process.

[notbatman]

My GPUs are running cold on X11, Windows desktop causes them to run hotter than the miner. LOL

I'm picking apart xcoin-hash and minerd trying to figure out what's up, it wouldn't surprise me if an R9 could do 30Mh/s or more.

My quad core CPU gets 60kh/s, seeing if I can improve on that first. I'm still fairly clueless at this point but maybe a few hours will change that. 

https://github.com/chaeplin/xcoin-hash


 

[bensam123]

Why is he a dumbass? Because he thinks X11 is important enough for people to make an ASIC for it - also because he's so stupid he thinks Scrypt ASICs can mine X11.

There is a shit ton of volume that moves through x11 coins. I can't help but think your crusade to pretend ASICs/FPGAs don't exist is perpetuated by your wares you want to sell - your custom x11 kernels. You wouldn't do that though would you? I mean if you built your own self-explained 'lively hood' off of selling these kernels, I assume there is a market for it.

And those are just shit kernels by your own words that don't even have the miner adjusted (let alone hardware, such as FPGA or ASICs).

[Zeta0S]

Hugh X11 mining power can be explained..


This is a farm from Genesis Mining running there private X11 Farm sinds February

[Amph]

Update: China is mining Darkcoin whit FPGa`s sinds April 2014

Today first X11 Asic`s miners: http://www.bitcoinupdate.nl/home/cleverhash-bezig-bouw-x11-asic-miner

calculator say only 0.03 a day, with 160w, not bad , but not outstanding either, and by the time that thing is available, we know what will happen...

[numisma]

Hm, anyone noticed at miningrigrentals.com the 2 big farms in x11? 70Ghash+??
What the hell is that?

[djm34]

Hm, anyone noticed at miningrigrentals.com the 2 big farms in x11? 70Ghash+??
What the hell is that?

an old news and a scam if you rent it...

[najzenmajsen]

just mine when the diff is low, and you can compete with asic/fgpa, if you arrive before them

mining for 24/7 is so 2011

couldnt agree more 

[Zeta0S]

Are there more signs of X11 Asics already?

I have one small clue X11 are real.
Check here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LM0YUEbOGu4
Time: around 43:10