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[thebrit]

Sorry about your loss SuMguy, but it appears that poncrypto's idea of a fair game is one where there's a 98.3% chance the game will have already ended while the game clock shows there's still time to play.

Unfortunate, but luckily there are a lot of alternatives out there.

Sucks about your BTC0.3 loss.

[ssrcsolutions]

I know SuMguy and can vouch that he put over 10 BTC into this game and if he played by the rules I do believe he should be compensated. At the very least....he is the only reason your game ran up 100+ deposits the other night, trust me you would not have the attention it has garnered if it werent for him. Casinos dont give refunds but when there is a flaw with their machines they do fix it. (Especially for the high rollers)

[poncrypto]

I know SuMguy and can vouch that he put over 10 BTC into this game and if he played by the rules I do believe he should be compensated. At the very least....he is the only reason your game ran up 100+ deposits the other night, trust me you would not have the attention it has garnered if it werent for him. Casinos dont give refunds but when there is a flaw with their machines they do fix it. (Especially for the high rollers)

I am just going to go by what you said... "Casinos do not give refunds"

[ssrcsolutions]

Funny how you only quoted half that statement.

But whatever...me n my group of friends are done playing scam games. Watch your volume drop drastically and enjoy. You just pissed off a great source of advertising and BTC.

[poncrypto]

Volume of in game action is dropping. I assure you tomorrow will be even less. No skin off your back, this I know. But if a seed is planted that a game is rigged and proof is available, then its tough luck for you.

Anyhow, thanks for the few days of fun It was cool while it lasted but I won't put my money into some that is rigged in your favor.

Again I regret that you lost.

The core of this issue is that you don't understand how transaction memory pool works and the bitcoin node p2p system. Just because it shows 5:59:45 on your computer when you send a message it does not mean we receive it within a certain time. You can call shenanigans all you want... its not really worth it for us to cheat to get a bad rep.

The game works well and you are just being a sore looser. Some guy won 2LTC yesterday no sweat... you lose .3 today... endless complaining.

And VOLUME is bigger today then yesterday sorry you are wrong again.

[ssrcsolutions]

lol every one of those .3's on the list is SuMguy just wait till tommorrow lolz

[Rehan]

Just got pointed to this thread in IRC -- I've been playing the last few days but am out now as well.

To be fair, SuMguy isn't referencing the time he sent the money on his computer -- he is referencing the blockchain's timestamp, the same timestamp you referenced.

Even if he did send AFTER the game ended (which he didn't), your game still shows the game being active when it no longer is. This is an issue regardless of what time SuMguy sent the transaction.

I see the disclaimers in the FAQ but the entire game clock not being the actual time is pretty scammy sounding.

As others have suggested in this thread, you could be using blockchain's API -- I hope you'll take those suggestions into consideration and implement them.

To say that it is a gamble is not a fair statement, as there should still be certain rules that the game needs to abide by. If the clock is a lie, fix the clock or refund the person who lost out due to your shoddy implementation of it.

Anyways, I'm done with this game and I'd encourage other people who happen upon this thread to think twice before sending your coins to poncrypto until he can fix the system.

[ssrcsolutions]

+1

[poncrypto]

Just got pointed to this thread in IRC -- I've been playing the last few days but am out now as well.

To be fair, SuMguy isn't referencing the time he sent the money on his computer -- he is referencing the blockchain's timestamp, the same timestamp you referenced.

Even if he did send AFTER the game ended (which he didn't), your game still shows the game being active when it no longer is. This is an issue regardless of what time SuMguy sent the transaction.

I see the disclaimers in the FAQ but the entire game clock not being the actual time is pretty scammy sounding.

As others have suggested in this thread, you could be using blockchain's API -- I hope you'll take those suggestions into consideration and implement them.

To say that it is a gamble is not a fair statement, as there should still be certain rules that the game needs to abide by. If the clock is a lie, fix the clock or refund the person who lost out due to your shoddy implementation of it.

Anyways, I'm done with this game and I'd encourage other people who happen upon this thread to think twice before sending your coins to poncrypto until he can fix the system.

Another REAL TIME expert!

Can you help EBAY solve this problem please... they have a bit more funds then we do
http://community.ebay.com/t5/Bidding/Is-the-quot-one-click-bid-quot-clock-always-accurate/qaq-p/4908327

[ssrcsolutions]

Ebays systems and the blockchain are 2 completely different things. Lame argument.

[poncrypto]

Another EBAY thread

http://community.ebay.com/t5/Bidding/how-can-you-watch-the-bidding-in-real-time/qaq-p/7060923

Its good to assume that we are dishonest.. but in reality the FAQ section is there because real time bidding is hard to solve.

[poncrypto]

Ebays systems and the blockchain are 2 completely different things. Lame argument.

Hey can you rewrite our whole software to use BLOCKCHAIN api... what about DOGE... would that work as well?

[ssrcsolutions]

Then maybe you should privately extend the game clock to compare/contrast to blockchain timestamps. After all you are making money off of this.

and like SuMguy said....i watched him lose over 1 BTC going ham on your game....and hes cool with that. What his issue is is that your game does not follow the rules. If it is confirmed within the blockchain within game time limits it should be a legit bid. I know for a fact he doesnt need the .3 He has a fucking HUGE gpu farm. His issue is he feels cheated by you. Its not about the money. Its about the principle

[thebrit]

Just got pointed to this thread in IRC -- I've been playing the last few days but am out now as well.

To be fair, SuMguy isn't referencing the time he sent the money on his computer -- he is referencing the blockchain's timestamp, the same timestamp you referenced.

Even if he did send AFTER the game ended (which he didn't), your game still shows the game being active when it no longer is. This is an issue regardless of what time SuMguy sent the transaction.

I see the disclaimers in the FAQ but the entire game clock not being the actual time is pretty scammy sounding.

As others have suggested in this thread, you could be using blockchain's API -- I hope you'll take those suggestions into consideration and implement them.

To say that it is a gamble is not a fair statement, as there should still be certain rules that the game needs to abide by. If the clock is a lie, fix the clock or refund the person who lost out due to your shoddy implementation of it.

Anyways, I'm done with this game and I'd encourage other people who happen upon this thread to think twice before sending your coins to poncrypto until he can fix the system.

Another REAL TIME expert!

Can you help EBAY solve this problem please... they have a bit more funds then we do
http://community.ebay.com/t5/Bidding/Is-the-quot-one-click-bid-quot-clock-always-accurate/qaq-p/4908327

I haven't played your game but a little sad to see you treat your users this way.

The problem you link to on eBay seems to be pretty different from the issue that plagues your game. You are using shoddy programming to run a CRON once a minute and are now getting upset because users are complaining that a CRON running once a minute is drastically inaccurate. If you want to draw comparisons to eBay, the first one would be to ask them how they handle real-time bidding -- I can guarantee you it's definitely not with a 1 minute resolution CRON job...I mean, as a developer (I'm assuming you are), how can you yourself not laugh at this being a solution?

I have no horse in this race but I am just stating the facts here -- a CRON job once a minute is not the correct way to set this up and of course people will be upset when the majority of the time the timer will be grossly inaccurate.

[poncrypto]

Can you help EBAY solve this problem please... they have a bit more funds then we do
http://community.ebay.com/t5/Bidding/Is-the-quot-one-click-bid-quot-clock-always-accurate/qaq-p/4908327

I dont care about eBay to be honest, I care about my time and money being invested into your game.
Last night when I won that .2 extra btc that you were quick to spam all over twitter about, i had followed the same process. For some reason it pended and i won. My diligence, my reward.
Following the process and effort tonight, I did the same. Same process, same time stamp. Within your games clock by 15 seconds and you accepted the funds.

Your position is the funds sent are out of game time, 100% tip and you won't return it even though by all accounts its within the time of your game, but you know this.

That being said I have spend over 22BTC on your game since you launched it. I am in for a ton tonight. I am not a sore loser, I am ok to both win and lose, my issue is how your system handles the final minute.

Even if we put that aside, and said YES, your FAQ is so amazing that you are covered (and you are by the way, i agree, i have 0 recourse other than this post), you would think you would just refund it citing it as an error both on your systems cron / part / thingamabob and my method of playing the game within your rules.

You have 26 entries in your game tonight. I account for 10. That means 16 are new and you will likely not have many money. Tomorrow will be less. You will make less money and this thread will remain.

Again, thanks, it really was exciting to play.

Thank you for playing. Best of luck!

[ssrcsolutions]

Just gotta say its real bad PR on your part. A competent dev would at the very least promise a fix or to work on one. Your best answer is read the FAQ and thanks for playing, you would have a very solid idea here if you cared about the community that will carry your idea but obviously you dont. Soooo you get unfollowed on twitter and bad PR everywhere. Thanks for playing, best of luck.

[poncrypto]

Just gotta say its real bad PR on your part. A competent dev would at the very least promise a fix or to work on one. Your best answer is read the FAQ and thanks for playing, you would have a very solid idea here if you cared about the community that will carry your idea but obviously you dont. Soooo you get unfollowed on twitter and bad PR everywhere. Thanks for playing, best of luck.

Actually busy running games and making sure all goes well during main game. Sorry you and your buddy are super pissed. Like I said nothing I can do its a very hard problem to solve and we do it to the best of our ability. If you guys choose not to play then its fine. As I stated in the first post there will be no refunds.

I can try to make it more clear in the FAQ... but what else can I do besides that for round end. If ebay can not reliably solve this issue its really hard for our teams resources to attempt it.

Again we stayed with our guidelines and there was no foulplay. If you can prove it on technical level you are welcome to do so.

[ssrcsolutions]

Im not pissed, just lookin out for a friend. Your game was quite fun and we were all enjoying it and steadily recruiting new plays. I can promise and prove on a technical level that our group accounted for 80% of your volume. What bothers us is that you state the rules but then do not abide to them, I even asked a question on day one about the 200% at the end as to how it was confirmed and your answer was that it is accepted as soon as it is confirmed in the blockchain. Well if your blockchain is running on a different clock then ours obviously you have an issue. I am no coder/programmer whatsoever, I am a miner and a trader but wtf is the point of even having a clock if it is inaccurate. I strongly advise you develop a fix or it will not last long.

[poncrypto]

Just gotta say its real bad PR on your part. A competent dev would at the very least promise a fix or to work on one. Your best answer is read the FAQ and thanks for playing, you would have a very solid idea here if you cared about the community that will carry your idea but obviously you dont. Soooo you get unfollowed on twitter and bad PR everywhere. Thanks for playing, best of luck.

Actually busy running games and making sure all goes well during main game. Sorry you and your buddy are super pissed. Like I said nothing I can do its a very hard problem to solve and we do it to the best of our ability. If you guys choose not to play then its fine. As I stated in the first post there will be refunds.

I can try to make it more clear in the FAQ... but what else can I do besides that for round end. If ebay can not reliably solve this issue its really hard for our teams resources to attempt it.

Again we stayed with our guidelines and there was no foulplay. If you can prove it on technical level you are welcome to do so.

No one is pissed.
I have btc set aside to play with and the loss isn't huge, but that isnt the point.

The game, the timer, whatever it is is flawed. I will say again for those coming to the thread at this stage:

I put in  money while the clock was up.
Money on block chain showed it was in before the game was up.
I also won tonight, albeit less. ( 18v3hL8Bh5PLygcFL1XGCHMWCMgNdpKbyn )
I also won last night,  ( 1Kw251FjfPoPUF8iVfVh3FhVV5jCpMJJYh )

I will correct myself, I have only actively played 15 BTC worth through your system. I did say 22, I was wrong.

Of the 26 in your game tonight, i account for 10 of those entries, i am sure others in this thread are involved too. More people in is more money in your pocket, I know. The app is developed,its running, you will always have people entering the game regardless of any negative bad press.

I would be happy for the tip return to 1Kw251FjfPoPUF8iVfVh3FhVV5jCpMJJYh and we chalk it up to technical error but again, your FAQ covers you. So... *shrugs* ...

Both you and your buddy need to first understand this.

1. There will be no refunds ... We wont be intimidated or begged into

2. You have no PROOF and your lack of knowledge of basic BITCOIN is frustrating

please refer to meaning of time in the transaction the time can be different for blockchain.info and other clients ...
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Original_Bitcoin_client/API_calls_list#cite_note-0


Nothing is flawed since the function of CRON cutting off the non received transaction is explained and risks are upfront. Just because you did not win it does not mean the game is broken.

What I may do is ... add ANOTHER warning that will say that the bonus is intended for last guy who deposited and not to be SNIPED.

[thebrit]

Why is using blockchain.info's API vs bitcoind not an option?

Certainly seems like it would create more transparency for your users and less headache for you....