Do you think coins with IPO/premines will succeed and be popular/mainstream?

[Ryota]

The facts: not one coin with IPO/premine has ever succeeded and all the most successful coins have all been without premine.

Do you think the coins created with premine and IPO, and even with innovations, have a future and the potential to achieve massive adoption and overtake Bitcoin?

[stdset]

The facts: not one coin with IPO/premine has ever succeeded and all the most successful coins have all been without premine.

Do you think the coins created with premine and IPO, and even with innovations, have a future and the potential to achieve massive adoption and overtake Bitcoin?

I wouldn't mix PoW premined coins with PoS IPO coins. They are two different things. For a PoS coin, an IPO is a natural way of initial distribution. Another worthy approach for that is Proof of Burn, see XCP.

[Spoetnik]

IPO = garbage scam .

This is not a Regulated Stock Market trading scene.

The term IPO has been applied to a new wave of digital Ponzi / pyramid schemes.. AKA: The clone coin.

What much of the guys do around this scene from EXCHANGE staff to Coin cloners pushing IPO's etc would land them jail time in a regulated market.

this is a fact period .

Ask Martha Stewart who did time for insider trading or Berni Madoff who is serving time right now for the world biggest PONZI SCHEME.

ALL the excuses and games and bullshit does not change this reality.

[Polycoin]

The relative polarity of the confined, conspicious IPO is rendering coin unstable in this epitolemic season of constant change. It shall and Will not prosper in the vernoic support of naturel values.

[Momimaus]

The time of feeding greedy miners is over.
You can only mine shitcoins, and nobody will buy them anymore.

[a20756079]

Things have two sides,  SO..

[Spoetnik]

Things have two sides,  SO..

and one side is in jail lol

[Spoetnik]

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IPO tards are loose now lol

scammy idiots..

[r0ach]

100% IPO coins, no

For premines, a premine of under 1% doesn't really affect much for the long term for a coin like Whitecoin which had a fast mining period anyway.

Pretty sure the dev sold his small premine, then the community took over the coin, so since he has no stake in anything anymore, it doesn't really matter what happened with him since he's gone from the picture with no amount of coins anyway.

[Casu]

The facts: not one coin with IPO/premine has ever succeeded and all the most successful coins have all been without premine.

Do you think the coins created with premine and IPO, and even with innovations, have a future and the potential to achieve massive adoption and overtake Bitcoin?

If your definition of success is that it must overtake bitcoin then you have very high standards. I would certainly judge NXT a success and this had an IPO. XCP as well.

[Emman]

The facts: not one coin with IPO/premine has ever succeeded and all the most successful coins have all been without premine.

Do you think the coins created with premine and IPO, and even with innovations, have a future and the potential to achieve massive adoption and overtake Bitcoin?

Bitcoins success is not due to his way of distribution. Any way a coin issued is not important, important is after the release of promotion and the team's planning and development

[SomethingElse]

I think large POW coins with a large premine will have a hard time unless they have something really special to offer.  Pure POS and some other P systems are experimenting with pure IPOs and I think some will have a great advantage.  A pure POS system gets around many of the mining problems with bitcoin.  Those "problems" were actually the benefits that help kickstart bitcoin and the whole crypto scene, but now that the scene is kind of working, they aren't needed as much.  The value of bitcoin isn't really that miners wasted huge amounts of electricity, computer hardware, and processing power doing useless calculations in a race to be first to finish a pointless puzzle.  Who really values pointless endeavors?  (Well.... I think most of the things my little sister does are pointless but that is a different story).  The point is now that bitcoin has shown that yes this bitcoin thing can and does work, it is time to lose the wasterfulness of miners.  POS and IPOs are one way at this, but not the only way.  It is possible they might be the next big thing.  If not for anything a large POS indirect mining pool can destroy cheap pure POW altcoins and use the ravages of war to boost the POS coins.  There isn't anything a POW can do.  Most mining POW are just inherently flawed schemes. 

[Spoetnik]

The facts: not one coin with IPO/premine has ever succeeded and all the most successful coins have all been without premine.

Do you think the coins created with premine and IPO, and even with innovations, have a future and the potential to achieve massive adoption and overtake Bitcoin?

Bitcoins success is not due to his way of distribution. Any way a coin issued is not important, important is after the release of promotion and the team's planning and development

are you high on crack ? seriously did you just say that ? WWWWWWWWWWWWooooooooooooooooWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

hey can i premine a coin and dump 1.2 million worth on some exchange ? that cool ? that is what you just said lol

UN fucking believable !
Crypto is full of the most creative excuse making weazely scammers i could ever fathom would ever exist.. how far will you guys go to JUSTIFY idiocy ?

[Ryota]

are you high on crack ? seriously did you just say that ? WWWWWWWWWWWWooooooooooooooooWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

hey can i premine a coin and dump 1.2 million worth on some exchange ? that cool ? that is what you just said lol

UN fucking believable !
Crypto is full of the most creative excuse making weazely scammers i could ever fathom would ever exist.. how far will you guys go to JUSTIFY idiocy ?

Remember that this forum is an international place, there are different people with different cultures who have different standards of living, views and values.

For example, the culture of copy and scams in China are commonplace and very different from what we find in the West or Japan.

[Spoetnik]

are you high on crack ? seriously did you just say that ? WWWWWWWWWWWWooooooooooooooooWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

hey can i premine a coin and dump 1.2 million worth on some exchange ? that cool ? that is what you just said lol

UN fucking believable !
Crypto is full of the most creative excuse making weazely scammers i could ever fathom would ever exist.. how far will you guys go to JUSTIFY idiocy ?

Remember that this forum is an international place, there are different people with different cultures who have different standards of living, views and values.

For example, the culture of copy and scams in China are commonplace and very different from what we find in the West or Japan.

no.. bs.. excuses like i just said for christs sakes jeez
you guys don't stop.. excuse excuse excuse.. give it a rest already fuck

a stupid comment compounded with a another stupid comment makes 2 stupid comments .

[salsacz]

The facts: not one coin with IPO/premine has ever succeeded and all the most successful coins have all been without premine.

Do you think the coins created with premine and IPO, and even with innovations, have a future and the potential to achieve massive adoption and overtake Bitcoin?

Bitcoins success is not due to his way of distribution. Any way a coin issued is not important, important is after the release of promotion and the team's planning and development

true. Take 2 guys with 1000 USD:

1 guy buys a mining rig and pays for electricity with 1000 USD and mines for one month.

2nd guy invests 1000 USD into IPOs of coins (that are not scams).

- both of them invested 1000 USD
- both of them did same risk in investing in some crypto

It is fair to say - both systems are equal, it is not important, if one guy bought coins with his mining or investing in IPO. They invested same money

[Momimaus]

The facts: not one coin with IPO/premine has ever succeeded and all the most successful coins have all been without premine.

Do you think the coins created with premine and IPO, and even with innovations, have a future and the potential to achieve massive adoption and overtake Bitcoin?

Bitcoins success is not due to his way of distribution. Any way a coin issued is not important, important is after the release of promotion and the team's planning and development

true. Take 2 guys with 1000 USD:

1 guy buys a mining rig and pays for electricity with 1000 USD and mines for one month.

2nd guy invests 1000 USD into IPOs of coins (that are not scams).

- both of them invested 1000 USD
- both of them did same risk in investing in some crypto

It is fair to say - both systems are equal, it is not important, if one guy bought coins with his mining or investing in IPO. They invested same money

The difference is just that the mining guy is wasting energy.

[Shivalein]

of course. why not?
Depends mostly on the technology and distribution.

[Spoetnik]

Question:    Do you think coins with IPO/premines will succeed and be popular/mainstream?

..be popular/mainstream?

of course not.. you guys really think so or did i just buy too many ipo's lol

[gentlemand]

If we're talking approaching truly mainstream then the coin would have to have been around for a decent while and demonstrated utility, security and stability.

If that was in place then the story of its initial distribution will take a back seat.