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April 29, 2014, 11:33:25 PM
Last edit: April 30, 2014, 07:14:09 PM by grue
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Every year millions of fur animals are killed just to make satisfied some small group of people. In China there are no regulations governing how animals are treated on fur farms or how their pelts are procured.

Please read it and sign.
 http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/265/446/562/

 http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-the-dog-and-cat-fur-trade/

http://emynow.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/animals-dont-make-me-cry.jpg?w=300&h=203


If you are strong enough you can watch it:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLcgxIGTFRs -----> in fact I watched only 36s and it was fully enough for me so I am not sure what is after this...
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April 29, 2014, 11:51:38 PM
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Trust me, I've seen all the gore and shit there is on the internet, but stuff like this makes me sick to my stomach immediately and is the only thing I can't watch.

Sickening.
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April 29, 2014, 11:52:01 PM
Last edit: April 30, 2014, 12:17:37 AM by roslinpl
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I signed this petition!
 I am not sure is this going to change anything in China .. but perhaps it is worth a try!

Well there are differences in cultures and something what is wrong for us might be OK for someone else. World is crazy.
Sad fact is that there are many sick activities around the world that are really hard to be stopped ...

But as I was saying! Worth a try!

+1 Kokosek for your will to change things to better Wink
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April 30, 2014, 12:31:47 AM
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They support the North Korean regime, that do things like this with their own people. Not sadly enough I think this will have no effect at all in the real world
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April 30, 2014, 12:32:59 AM
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ban pornography/freedom

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April 30, 2014, 01:23:51 AM
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Fur farm industry dies if there are no customers. People should stop buying fur clothing.
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April 30, 2014, 05:50:49 AM
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No trading would be no killing
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April 30, 2014, 06:41:57 AM
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Really, really disturbing. Sadly, no end in sight.

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April 30, 2014, 07:40:23 AM
Last edit: May 01, 2014, 12:56:52 AM by kuroman
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For the second petition concerning eating cats and dogs in China

I don't know how to reply to this... I mean what give you or me the right to criticize Chinese culture especially when it comes to food and eating dogs and cats, while I my self would never get my self to eat such animals, I find it hard to criticize other culture for it. I mean Japanese eats Whales and dolphins, people that lives in polar regions eat seals and walrus and other stuff, we eat cows and sheep and stuff, and each culture might consider what the other culture consume wrong, for example Hindus might see us in the same way for consuming cows (mistreading and murdering one of their religious symbol).

I feel like we shouldn't push our vision of things on others and try to format them to our way of doing things, how can people be sure that their way is the correct way, it doesn't make sense

As for fur, while it was justified in the past to get fur from animal origin, nowadays it is unjustified since there are replacement, but again we shouldn't see this from own perspective, as in western world leather and stuff are from animal sources as well so again It's hard to take a clear position here
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April 30, 2014, 02:41:29 PM
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For the second petition concerning eating cats and dogs in China

I don't know how to reply to this... I mean what give you or me the right to criticize Chinese culture especially when it comes to food and eating dogs and cats, while I my self would never get my self to eat such animals, I find it hard to criticize other culture for it. I mean Japanese eats Whales and dolphins, people that lives in polar regions eat seals and walrus and other stuff, we eat cows and sheeps and stuff, and each culture might fight what the other culture consume wrong, for example us Hindus might see us in the same way for consuming cows.

I feel like we shouldn't push or vision of things on others and try to format them to our way of doing things, how can people be sure that their way is the correct way it doesn't make sense

As for fur, while it was justified in the past to get fur from animal origin, nowadays it is unjustified since there are replacement, but again we shouldn't see this from own perspective, as in western world leather and stuff are from animal sources as well so again It's hard to take a clear position here

It`s not only about eating cats and dogs. It`s about treating them, maltreating... Does any culture should accord to do this? Should`t they have some law which let animals just not to die in pain? Where are some humanitarian laws for animals?
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April 30, 2014, 02:44:39 PM
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China doesn't really care about animal rights. So I don't think that organizing petitions is going to work. BTW.... I think fur farms exists in other countries as well, although China might be the no.1 fur producer.
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April 30, 2014, 03:16:28 PM
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China doesn't really care about animal rights. So I don't think that organizing petitions is going to work. BTW.... I think fur farms exists in other countries as well, although China might be the no.1 fur producer.

I hope that publicity on wild scale can do sth. Maybe some world organisation could take care of it. Pretending that problem does`t exist will never solve it. That`s my point.
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April 30, 2014, 03:28:55 PM
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Don't watch this if don't have a strong stomach:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2KmVvgPkyc

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April 30, 2014, 03:46:45 PM
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Don't watch this if don't have a strong stomach:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2KmVvgPkyc

Hmm...It is Vietnam. I had earlier seen a video where small puppies were boiled alive to make dog soup. The chef believed that boiling them alive will make the soup more delicious. Almost threw up after watching it.
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April 30, 2014, 05:28:41 PM
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Don't watch this if don't have a strong stomach:

Hmm...It is Vietnam. I had earlier seen a video where small puppies were boiled alive to make dog soup. The chef believed that boiling them alive will make the soup more delicious. Almost threw up after watching it.


This is sick and this is a reason I will never spend vacations in Vietnam...

And I never really wanted to go to China too.. Just to buy some cheap devices and go back ...
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April 30, 2014, 05:39:22 PM
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China doesn't really care about animal rights. So I don't think that organizing petitions is going to work. BTW.... I think fur farms exists in other countries as well, although China might be the no.1 fur producer.

I hope that publicity on wild scale can do sth. Maybe some world organisation could take care of it. Pretending that problem does`t exist will never solve it. That`s my point.

China does not care about HUMAN rights to begin with. And interference in their internal affairs is just impossible. They will do what they want to do anyway. It is so sad really, but there is no way to stop them from hurting animals, business is business in China.


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April 30, 2014, 05:43:15 PM
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China doesn't really care about animal rights. So I don't think that organizing petitions is going to work. BTW.... I think fur farms exists in other countries as well, although China might be the no.1 fur producer.

I hope that publicity on wild scale can do sth. Maybe some world organisation could take care of it. Pretending that problem does`t exist will never solve it. That`s my point.

China does not care about HUMAN rights to begin with. And interference in their internal affairs is just impossible. They will do what they want to do anyway. It is so sad really, but there is no way to stop them from hurting animals, business is business in China.

You might be right but I understand people who really want to change the way China is acting on an animals but .. this story seems to have a beginning a long long time ago and till now nothing changes ..

But as I was saying! I would be great if we can change it.
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April 30, 2014, 06:15:31 PM
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Every year millions of fur animals are killed just to make satisfied some small group of people. In China there are no regulations governing how animals are treated on fur farms or how their pelts are procured.

Please read it and sign.
 http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/265/446/562/

 http://www.thepetitionsite.com/2/stop-the-dog-and-cat-fur-trade/




If you are strong enough you can watch it:
 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLcgxIGTFRs -----> in fact I watched only 36s and it was fully enough for me so I am not sure what is after this...

If it's what I think it is, and once viewed, I'm surprised you got to the 36s mark. To date, every time I see a monkey, I recall that iconic scene in Faces of Death where folks are enjoying fresh monkey brains from a once live monkey only >36s earlier. The screeching sounds made by that monkey as it was beaten on the head while strapped to the family's dinner table is not for the fainthearted.

Now, what I'm going to suggest may come across as weird on the surface but, if implemented, has the potential to cause a stir worldwide, thus bringing attention to this incredibly cruel practice.

Strategically stage protests worldwide where the protesters ONLY carry signs (not everybody, just a few) and most everybody is playing recordings (not extremely loud, but loud enough) of the sounds of animals being tortured. The ONLY other sounds heard throughout the protest are people crying due to not being able to handle it any further, some of which are taking aware by ambulances due to going into shock.

Why it would go viral is because summer is fast approaching and the media is on the lookout for a good movement story. Needless to say but, by day three, the national guard would have been called out surrounding the terrorists with their tanks and other weapons used for unruly crowds, thus bringing out more media, along with more protesters with their primitive signs penned in blood also playing their newly created recordings.

PLEASE DON'T USE THE WORD OCCUPY IN THE NAMING OF THIS CAUSE! Perhaps, something simple like yoU Hear That? (UHT?) would suffice. For marketing purposes, of sorts, the cause's acronym could spell out one of the sounds that a beaten critter makes. Backronym immediately comes to mind. That would help further the movement.

To recap, the protest scenes would consist of tens of thousands of protesters holding signs, and the only sounds heard are animals being beaten to death and humans crying. NO STAGE, MICROPHONE, SPEECHES, etc.

All that would be needed at the onset is a good name with an accompanied acronym/backronym and suggestions for the venues as to where the protests should be stage, along with a .org website, whereupon the rest would take on a life of its own, for the latter's the easy part.
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April 30, 2014, 07:10:08 PM
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Don't watch this if don't have a strong stomach:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2KmVvgPkyc

Hmm...It is Vietnam. I had earlier seen a video where small puppies were boiled alive to make dog soup. The chef believed that boiling them alive will make the soup more delicious. Almost threw up after watching it.

Damn, I wish tshirtOS were available, then I would have several protesters donning videos, sans sound, of various cruel acts.

The second best option is screen printing tees.
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April 30, 2014, 07:13:27 PM
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For the second petition concerning eating cats and dogs in China

I don't know how to reply to this... I mean what give you or me the right to criticize Chinese culture especially when it comes to food and eating dogs and cats, while I my self would never get my self to eat such animals, I find it hard to criticize other culture for it. I mean Japanese eats Whales and dolphins, people that lives in polar regions eat seals and walrus and other stuff, we eat cows and sheeps and stuff, and each culture might fight what the other culture consume wrong, for example us Hindus might see us in the same way for consuming cows.

I feel like we shouldn't push or vision of things on others and try to format them to our way of doing things, how can people be sure that their way is the correct way it doesn't make sense

As for fur, while it was justified in the past to get fur from animal origin, nowadays it is unjustified since there are replacement, but again we shouldn't see this from own perspective, as in western world leather and stuff are from animal sources as well so again It's hard to take a clear position here

It`s not only about eating cats and dogs. It`s about treating them, maltreating... Does any culture should accord to do this? Should`t they have some law which let animals just not to die in pain? Where are some humanitarian laws for animals?
Maltreating them? In what way? I doubt you'll maltreat your food if you want it to be consumable don't you think so? it's not like they are cooking them alive or something <.<
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