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April 30, 2014, 12:33:29 AM
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Was wondering if anyone would be interested in hosting their mining rigs at a premier world-class datacenter?
I'm not referring to a "warehouse" hosting environment but a top tier datacenter with customers the likes of yahoo, financial institutions, etc. with proper cooling and security. They can run without utility power almost indefinitely if necessary and have done so for months at a time in the past (personal experience).
Currently getting quotes from a few of these type of data center. So far I have received a quote from the data center where I have been hosting all of my server and other equipment for over 8 years but they are on the high side.
Data Center A
$340/month per kW (ouch!)
Data Center B
$290/month per kW
Data Center C
pending
My goal is to get the price in the $150/month per kW (ex: AntMiner S2) but would anyone be interested?
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April 30, 2014, 02:54:12 AM |
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I've got a relationship with a miner friendly hosting facility now (if you're looking). Several options/configurations available, the popular rates are below:
Full cabinet – 20amps @ 208V is $799 a month
Full cabinet – 30amps @ 208v is $850 a month
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CartmanSPC (OP)
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April 30, 2014, 05:51:14 AM |
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Your pricing is good compared to Data Center A.
Cost from Data Center A (most expensive but the best in the area):
Full rack with 60A/208V and everything else is about $3400/month. 80% of that 60A is usable so 48A of usable power....or in watts about 10 kW usable.
3400/10 = $340/month per kW
3400/48 = $70.83/month per A
Does your offering include the full usage of the 20/30amps or do you limit to 80% of rated capacity?
I was trying to see if I can get pricing in the $150/month per kW or $31.25/month per A. Looks like you got close!
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MWNinja
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April 30, 2014, 06:30:30 AM |
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How about a 17.2KW usable cab for $3100/mo? We have lots of power and cooling... we need your miners. Your pricing is good compared to Data Center A.
Cost from Data Center A (most expensive but the best in the area):
Full rack with 60A/208V and everything else is about $3400/month. 80% of that 60A is usable so 48A of usable power....or in watts about 10 kW usable.
3400/10 = $340/month per kW
3400/48 = $70.83/month per A
Does your offering include the full usage of the 20/30amps or do you limit to 80% of rated capacity?
I was trying to see if I can get pricing in the $150/month per kW or $31.25/month per A. Looks like you got close!
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May 01, 2014, 08:33:01 AM |
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Best offer l got so far is 120€/kwh/month.
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hooliuk
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May 01, 2014, 09:24:36 AM |
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I'm looking at approx £750 for a full 42u cabinet with 8A (1.8KW) power presentation... if you're looking though watch out for A- Hefty setup fee's and b-n nasty connectivity charges. With mining you don't need a 10G lease line... I could fit 10x 1TH/s miners plus a switch into a 42u rack but I have no idea if 8A (1.8KW) is enough power though  |
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May 01, 2014, 01:57:13 PM |
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My best offer is $1699 for 12kW per rack. $500 set-up fee though... $3100 for 17.2kW = |
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CaptEmulation
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May 01, 2014, 01:58:19 PM |
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I could fit 10x 1TH/s miners plus a switch into a 42u rack but I have no idea if 8A (1.8KW) is enough power though Not even remote close to enough power. You would need 12-16kW with modern hashing hardware. |
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May 01, 2014, 02:00:23 PM |
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I could fit 10x 1TH/s miners plus a switch into a 42u rack but I have no idea if 8A (1.8KW) is enough power though Not even remote close to enough power. You would need 12-16kW with modern hashing hardware. Agreed - 1.8kW is NOT enough for 2 miners  |
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MWNinja
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May 01, 2014, 05:13:16 PM |
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My best offer is $1699 for 12kW per rack. $500 set-up fee though... $3100 for 17.2kW = Your 12kw rack is really just under 10kw usable, closer to 9600w really (80%). Our racks are 17kw fully usable, full 60 amps of 3-phase. $170/usable KW vs. $180/usable KW, so we are a little higher...but we handle your install and are full-service for miners. What's the contract term, and how many cabs do you need? We can probably match the $170/usable kw rate, but it will take some arm wrestling. |
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May 01, 2014, 05:29:54 PM |
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My best offer is $1699 for 12kW per rack. $500 set-up fee though... $3100 for 17.2kW = Your 12kw rack is really just under 10kw usable, closer to 9600w really (80%). Our racks are 17kw fully usable, full 60 amps of 3-phase. $170/usable KW vs. $180/usable KW, so we are a little higher...but we handle your install and are full-service for miners. What's the contract term, and how many cabs do you need? We can probably match the $170/usable kw rate, but it will take some arm wrestling. Who said it was NOT 12kW usable It is 12kW usable... 4 cabinets and 3 month term. |
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MWNinja
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May 01, 2014, 05:53:27 PM |
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It's probably 2 - 30 amp 208V circuits, which isn't 12kw usable.... there's the 80% continuous load requirement that you have to abide by. Data Centers nearly always quote installed power... unless you are getting quoted something else? My best offer is $1699 for 12kW per rack. $500 set-up fee though... $3100 for 17.2kW = Your 12kw rack is really just under 10kw usable, closer to 9600w really (80%). Our racks are 17kw fully usable, full 60 amps of 3-phase. $170/usable KW vs. $180/usable KW, so we are a little higher...but we handle your install and are full-service for miners. What's the contract term, and how many cabs do you need? We can probably match the $170/usable kw rate, but it will take some arm wrestling. Who said it was NOT 12kW usable It is 12kW usable... 4 cabinets and 3 month term. |
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May 01, 2014, 05:57:28 PM |
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I could fit 10x 1TH/s miners plus a switch into a 42u rack but I have no idea if 8A (1.8KW) is enough power though Not even remote close to enough power. You would need 12-16kW with modern hashing hardware. Agreed - 1.8kW is NOT enough for 2 miners Yup, you need at least a 60A/208V circuit for a total of 12480W but most if not all DC's limit you to 80% of rated capacity so that gives you just under 10kW. |
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Thanks for the advice and I am a tad leery as well. I am re-confirming now as I have always told them I am requesting USABLE watts per cabinet. If it is 3 phase would 208V @ 60A be 208 x 60 x 1.73 x .8 = 17.2kW?It's probably 2 - 30 amp 208V circuits, which isn't 12kw usable.... there's the 80% continuous load requirement that you have to abide by. Data Centers nearly always quote installed power... unless you are getting quoted something else? My best offer is $1699 for 12kW per rack. $500 set-up fee though... $3100 for 17.2kW = Your 12kw rack is really just under 10kw usable, closer to 9600w really (80%). Our racks are 17kw fully usable, full 60 amps of 3-phase. $170/usable KW vs. $180/usable KW, so we are a little higher...but we handle your install and are full-service for miners. What's the contract term, and how many cabs do you need? We can probably match the $170/usable kw rate, but it will take some arm wrestling. Who said it was NOT 12kW usable It is 12kW usable... 4 cabinets and 3 month term. |
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Xyver
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May 01, 2014, 09:44:15 PM |
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I've got hosting in Vancouver, BC for $400 a month. Fully secured, cooled, 2400 watt cage.
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MWNinja
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May 01, 2014, 10:19:26 PM |
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Yup it's 17.2 kVa, which is around 17k usable watts. Phase loading is VERY important, ideally you want to install in sets of 3 (one machine per phase). Also make sure there aren't other hidden charges. Data Centers can play games with making you buy bandwidth from 3rd parties. Are they supplying the PDU's or are you? You can spend anywhere from $200 to OMFG on PDUs so beware of the possible expense. The HP monitored 3-phase one we are running now was like $1500, but its super titties, remote monitoring, remote plug control, per outlet metered. Make sure the datacenter REALLY understands what high density is all about. The heat off your gear can and will affect other customers if they don't do adequate planning... Happy to help also via PM; even if you don't go with us, we'll try to help keep you from getting screwed like we did on our first data center mining foray. Thanks for the advice and I am a tad leery as well. I am re-confirming now as I have always told them I am requesting USABLE watts per cabinet. If it is 3 phase would 208V @ 60A be 208 x 60 x 1.73 x .8 = 17.2kW?It's probably 2 - 30 amp 208V circuits, which isn't 12kw usable.... there's the 80% continuous load requirement that you have to abide by. Data Centers nearly always quote installed power... unless you are getting quoted something else? My best offer is $1699 for 12kW per rack. $500 set-up fee though... $3100 for 17.2kW = Your 12kw rack is really just under 10kw usable, closer to 9600w really (80%). Our racks are 17kw fully usable, full 60 amps of 3-phase. $170/usable KW vs. $180/usable KW, so we are a little higher...but we handle your install and are full-service for miners. What's the contract term, and how many cabs do you need? We can probably match the $170/usable kw rate, but it will take some arm wrestling. Who said it was NOT 12kW usable It is 12kW usable... 4 cabinets and 3 month term. |
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May 02, 2014, 12:16:06 AM |
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MWNinja,
Do you have a web site or should people PM you on here? Also, as for available watts I thought it was just Volts*Amps=Watts (ex: 208*60=12480). Where does the 1.73 come from?
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May 02, 2014, 12:28:35 AM |
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MWNinja,
Do you have a web site or should people PM you on here? Also, as for available watts I thought it was just Volts*Amps=Watts (ex: 208*60=12480). Where does the 1.73 come from?
The 1.73 is for 3 phase... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kkwv5zgCQt8 |
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MWNinja
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May 02, 2014, 10:50:39 PM |
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PM me, website, cloud mining, and other fun stuff is in the works. Ready in "2 weeks" MWNinja,
Do you have a web site or should people PM you on here? Also, as for available watts I thought it was just Volts*Amps=Watts (ex: 208*60=12480). Where does the 1.73 come from?
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May 03, 2014, 05:04:11 PM |
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Ha! I cracked it. I have a climate controlled sever room that I can use as part of a temp office space and they are happy for me to host as many miners as I can fit in there... total cost? £400 + VAT I also get a desk with a 70mb internet connection too.... up and down ...for erm.. i dunno what yet.. but something! :-) You should see it its terribly dis-organised about 100 old ATX servers in there already they don't really know what they're doing which works perfect for me :-)  Now it all goes down to mining becoming harder... how long will 10TH/s even at this low cost be profitable? will we see 10TH/s miners or even 100TH/s miners come to market to meet demand..? will BTC zoom up in value making our little hobby still worth it... |
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