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16mLN1bvHArZGUxT5TgHjixR43sLJ6hUMR After hearing about the R-value and RNG incidences, I wondering if the private key of the address can really be derived or the intruder must have got in another way. I posted on reddit few days ago, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23ybk8/just_came_back_from_hospital_for_appendix_rupture/but it's such a big amount that I couldn't let go, TLDR:, the address is from my blockchain.info wallet, I made a big mistake importing it to my main wallet, forgot about it, and one day decided to randomly pick an address to receive 151 BTC, turned out that I picked that address, 2 months later, 150 BTC traveled on its own out of the address, it took me 5 days to realized the loss. I wasn't sure how I signed up for my blockchain.info wallet. I cannot find prove that I used browser to sign up that day, there is a slight chance that it could be an android device. May all go well after this event sorry.
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Lamigo
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May 01, 2014, 06:13:54 PM |
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16mLN1bvHArZGUxT5TgHjixR43sLJ6hUMR After hearing about the R-value and RNG incidences, I wondering if the private key of the address can really be derived or the intruder must have got in another way. I posted on reddit few days ago, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23ybk8/just_came_back_from_hospital_for_appendix_rupture/but it's such a big amount that I couldn't let go, TLDR:, the address is from my blockchain.info wallet, I made a big mistake importing it to my main wallet, forgot about it, and one day decided to randomly pick an address to receive 151 BTC, turned out that I picked that address, 2 months later, 150 BTC traveled on its own out of the address, it took me 5 days to realized the loss. I wasn't sure how I signed up for my blockchain.info wallet. I cannot find prove that I used browser to sign up that day, there is a slight chance that it could be an android device. Sorry to hear your loss and it is definitely a painful lesson...
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edutBTC
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May 01, 2014, 07:22:42 PM |
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Such a waste of money , you will recover it
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monbux
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May 01, 2014, 10:25:23 PM |
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no, it's hard earned money, and I'm sick of it. I got hit by a string of bad luck since october, starting by popping shoulder in ocean while surfing, cracked another wrist a few months later wakeboarding, diagnosed with anal fistula, went through ass operation, upon recovery appendix suddenly bursted, went through another surgery, came back home, checked the wallet, and kaboom !
It was poor judgement on your part. I'm sorry from your loss, and let's hope that you can learn from it and not keep 151 BTC lying around in a single, online wallet.
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DeathAndTaxes
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Gerald Davis
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May 01, 2014, 10:36:41 PM |
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Honest question (not trying to hit you when you are down) by why would you reuse an existing address to receive new funds?
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pinksheep
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May 01, 2014, 11:09:53 PM |
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Hate reading things like this as apart from anything else, any of us could be next. I know I have my BTC in a paper wallet but I worry about something like this happening when I eventually bring them out of cold storage to sell them. I had intended to sweep them into my blockchain wallet & from there send them to the company that I use to buy & sell through, but I am concerned that in the short time they'd be in my blockchain wallet, they could disappear.
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pinksheep
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May 01, 2014, 11:11:08 PM |
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However, hopefully 'security' will be tightened by then; I'm not intending selling any BTC in the near future unless there's a MASSIVE bubble
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Mobius7
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May 02, 2014, 01:05:39 AM |
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Sorry to hear your huge loss. It is generally not a good idea to re-use your addresses, even if they are safe.
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downying (OP)
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May 02, 2014, 08:42:09 AM |
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Honest question (not trying to hit you when you are down) by why would you reuse an existing address to receive new funds?
I didn't want to back up my wallet so often which involves retrieving some usbs under a few trees. Well, I should have used keypool=100000 and forget this bullshit. And I was on an impression that reusing address is not so bad in practice.
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Light
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May 02, 2014, 10:26:26 AM |
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I'm not sure if any clarified you on this but I'd bet my last cent that it was as a result of a flaw in security on you're end rather than a collision with someone attaining the same private key as you. I'm sorry for your loss but if you still have a significant sum of coins I would suggest you look into cold storage for safekeeping and a smaller hot wallet for day to day spending. I'm doubtful anyone would need 60k worth of liquidity in Bitcoin for their day to day transactions.
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pinksheep
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May 02, 2014, 10:29:37 AM |
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Has there ever been even one case of anyone recovering coins lost in this manner? I'd think not.
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Light
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May 02, 2014, 10:34:26 AM |
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Has there ever been even one case of anyone recovering coins lost in this manner? I'd think not.
AFAIK there have been a couple of incidents where people managed to get their coin back but it was only because they managed to get the thief's dox and threaten to post them publicly. However in general for people who lose coins to an anonymous thief it is hard to track them down and hassle them to return the stolen coins.
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crazyoddman
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May 02, 2014, 10:54:26 AM |
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16mLN1bvHArZGUxT5TgHjixR43sLJ6hUMR After hearing about the R-value and RNG incidences, I wondering if the private key of the address can really be derived or the intruder must have got in another way. I posted on reddit few days ago, http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/23ybk8/just_came_back_from_hospital_for_appendix_rupture/but it's such a big amount that I couldn't let go, TLDR:, the address is from my blockchain.info wallet, I made a big mistake importing it to my main wallet, forgot about it, and one day decided to randomly pick an address to receive 151 BTC, turned out that I picked that address, 2 months later, 150 BTC traveled on its own out of the address, it took me 5 days to realized the loss. I wasn't sure how I signed up for my blockchain.info wallet. I cannot find prove that I used browser to sign up that day, there is a slight chance that it could be an android device. Now focus on keeping the remaining 1k safe.
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gagalady
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May 02, 2014, 11:30:43 AM |
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That's one of the reasons why people convert their BTC to FIAT money, because they feel their money are more safe in FIAT and sometimes things happen like for this dude when you keep your wealth in BTC =/
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dreamspark
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May 02, 2014, 02:09:31 PM |
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Damn thats alot of coins to lose. Good luck I hope you get something back.
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GhanaGamboy
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Dadice Fixed Rate.
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May 02, 2014, 03:59:07 PM |
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After hearing about the R-value and RNG incidences, I wondering if the private key of the address can really be derived or the intruder must have got in another way.
I believe only Android systems were affected due to RNG flaw, and you had reuse the same address. Today many peoples/services reuse the same address and I didnt heard of any losses because of this, so I consider it safe
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Suzuki
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May 02, 2014, 07:50:48 PM |
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Very sad. It's rather big amount of money but even police unlikely can do anything to hepl you.
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kunac
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May 02, 2014, 08:25:21 PM |
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Sorry to hear. I lost small amount from blockchain.info don't know how. You can't trust anybody in crypto-world.
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bitsmichel
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May 03, 2014, 12:08:12 AM |
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blockchain.info is an online wallet?
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carpe
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May 03, 2014, 01:16:18 AM |
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Thats a real big amount, any luck on their support to recover your btc?
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