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June 09, 2015, 04:22:13 PM |
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deepak chawla..(FRAUD) kotak bank account number..3911454320 ifsc code...KKBK0000209 I Was lost 1000 indian rupees..
I feel sorry for you....but have you checked the trader reputation before making the trade ?? The problem is that no one sees this thread being new to the bitcoin scene. I remember that when I first got into trading with bitcoin , I had him contact me as a local bitcoin representative. Even though it was really obvious as he told me his email was something like localbitcoins@gmail.com . Seeing the gmail there made it obvious he was trying to con me.
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June 09, 2015, 10:20:50 PM |
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The problem is that no one sees this thread being new to the bitcoin scene. I remember that when I first got into trading with bitcoin , I had him contact me as a local bitcoin representative. Even though it was really obvious as he told me his email was something like localbitcoins@gmail.com . Seeing the gmail there made it obvious he was trying to con me. Well many of us may ignore the fact, but the main problem lies in local traders also. Very less of them are supportive or co-operative.....and thats a real fact. And now those who are generally new seems always in hurry so ultimately they fall victims to such scammers.....
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vennali
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June 10, 2015, 08:08:35 PM |
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Well many of us may ignore the fact, but the main problem lies in local traders also. Very less of them are supportive or co-operative.....and thats a real fact. And now those who are generally new seems always in hurry so ultimately they fall victims to such scammers.....
You don't have to trade with people who show such behaviour. The known scammer usually takes advantage of that and tries to get the release from escrow expedited. All buyers should wait for the money to show up in their account and not trust the word of even the bank manager. The escrow is there for that reason.
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June 10, 2015, 09:03:23 PM |
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escrow is always a nice option can you suggest some genuine/legit sites generally used for selling/buying bitcoins ?? apart from localbitcoins.... have you any experience using virwox ?
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July 25, 2015, 01:22:30 AM |
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Hi guys, This is dizz from lbc. This is my first post here. Came through a hard situation recently. Check this profile: https://localbitcoins.com/p/vimalbbm/This guy opened a trade with me on 15th-April-2015. He made the payment (Rs.9200/-) within minutes and I provided him the bitcoins almost instantly. His profile was looking decent so I didn't asked him for screenshots or anything. Later after 10 days, I got call from another guy who claimed that the money was taken from his account and he will be filing an official complaint to the police regarding this. I didn't believed what he said first. (How come money can be stolen from one's account without his knowledge? Atleast they will be asking for OTPs right.) Anyway, as I was confused, I just suggested him to go ahead with police complaint. Later on June 18, I got call from Gujarat Crime Branch and also received an official notice demanding the details of the transaction. My bank account was also blocked meanwhile. I have provided all the details what I have and explained everything to the police over phone/email. On the same day(15-04-2015) of this guy's trade with me. He has opened trade with few more people in localbitcoins and have sent payment to them also. He has taken approximately 50000rs from that account. And it was transferred to different mmids and mobile number, each amount is below 5000 (I received 5000+4200). Investigation is still going on. This guys profile was ID verified and had almost 6 real name verification. So, my point is, it doesn't matter how much good the profile looks like always be careful while dealing in lbc. Regards, Dizz
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July 25, 2015, 02:02:39 AM |
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It says on his profile that he has verified everything even ID, Passport or Driver’s , that definetly calls for trust, this is scary, but all his details can be called from lbc, did u send them, a support message asking for all details? ip address, phone number id proofs etc.
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July 25, 2015, 02:12:14 AM |
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If he is really a scammer, he may not have used his own id proofs for verifying his account. What I see is he is still trading using this account. I have told police to communicate with localbitcoins. And I have reported this incident to localbitcoins also.
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July 25, 2015, 09:13:43 AM |
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If he is really a scammer, he may not have used his own id proofs for verifying his account. What I see is he is still trading using this account. I have told police to communicate with localbitcoins. And I have reported this incident to localbitcoins also.
That user does have a "- Scammer trying to reverse the transaction becareful " on his lbtc profile. Seems he has given up on his game as he was last seen 1 month ago. I suppose even being careful while trading , no one can foresee such a thing as bank transfers is a standard thing while buying or selling. Have you tried communication with the original bank account owner asking how he thinks his account was hacked or why he didn't realize his account was charged ?
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July 25, 2015, 09:25:59 AM |
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The account owner was not ready to explain how his account was compromised. But it was not an individual account I think. In the crime branch notice which I received account was mentioned as "The Smart Shop Terminal Account" The sentence in the notice was like this: "He complained that, an unknown cyber criminal hacked his The Smart Shop terminal account and make a new wallet and purchased your product"
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July 25, 2015, 10:22:34 AM |
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Thanks Dizz for providing vital information.....things are getting worse and worse even more.
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July 25, 2015, 10:30:36 AM |
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The account owner was not ready to explain how his account was compromised. But it was not an individual account I think. In the crime branch notice which I received account was mentioned as "The Smart Shop Terminal Account" The sentence in the notice was like this: "He complained that, an unknown cyber criminal hacked his The Smart Shop terminal account and make a new wallet and purchased your product" Hey diz.. thanks for the info.. and I wanted to know whether you told the cops that u were transacting bitcoins or did u just say some "product"? I am not sure about where India stands when it comes to bitcoins so I wanna know this just incase if I ever land into similar trouble.
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shahadil
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July 25, 2015, 11:42:22 AM |
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Just checked my trade history. I did a trade with him Jan and he had uploaded his passport copy scan for verification. Contact me in case you need help.
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July 25, 2015, 12:01:27 PM |
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Hey diz.. thanks for the info.. and I wanted to know whether you told the cops that u were transacting bitcoins or did u just say some "product"? I am not sure about where India stands when it comes to bitcoins so I wanna know this just incase if I ever land into similar trouble. Yes I did. Don,t worry bro we are not doing anything illegal.
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July 25, 2015, 02:12:52 PM |
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Hey diz.. thanks for the info.. and I wanted to know whether you told the cops that u were transacting bitcoins or did u just say some "product"? I am not sure about where India stands when it comes to bitcoins so I wanna know this just incase if I ever land into similar trouble. Yes I did. Don,t worry bro we are not doing anything illegal. has your bank account been unfreezed yet? and how did they respond?
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July 26, 2015, 08:58:54 AM |
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Bank account is still frozen. But I knew that it will be the first thing they will do once the FIR is registered. So didn't kept much funds in it. Bank investigation team met me and prepared a report. I explained complete story to them.
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Bank account is still frozen. But I knew that it will be the first thing they will do once the FIR is registered. So didn't kept much funds in it. Bank investigation team met me and prepared a report. I explained complete story to them. This is scary, who can we trust now! The shit has literally hit the fan! Maybe we need to check if the name given by the owner of the account and LB profile match before accepting a transaction. Guess we can always refund the buyer his money if we think there is a fraud happening? This seems to be the only work around i can think of atm.
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July 28, 2015, 06:47:11 AM |
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https://localbitcoins.com/p/pekings/A similar case for this user, I am getting calls from people that he has scammed them, by asking to ay into my account and not delivering on his end
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July 29, 2015, 06:28:11 AM |
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https://localbitcoins.com/p/pekings/A similar case for this user, I am getting calls from people that he has scammed them, by asking to ay into my account and not delivering on his end So this guy also hacked into someone's bank account and sent funds for purchase? If this is the case, and we see many more like this, i guess we need to be careful because it could be a con artist at work who deliberately creates a bank account and transfers funds from there, gets the bitcoin and asks his friend to come and claim that his account was hacked and funds were transferred. Something like land sold by real estate developers, where they sell SC / ST land and then instigate the SC / ST guys to go and fight for the land and claim a bounty from the new land owner because he knows that SC/ ST land should not have been purchased by him in the first place. Once the bounty is claimed, it is shared between the real estate guy and the SC / ST guy and the poor buyer is left with a huge hole in his pocket. In India, you do not need to look very far to spot a scam, it happens at every level!
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August 03, 2015, 03:41:27 PM |
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Haha, this is damn funny whatsapp conversation. Anyway i have my own tale to tell.
Here goes.
Got scammed for approx 90k in November last year. More on that story later. That is not the important one. So stopped trading for a month, and then decided to start accepting transfers but after being very anal about verification. So had this guy who contacted me who wanted to buy 69k worth of coins. Told him id was required and he co-operated completely. Sent me aadhar card, sent me the screen shot of his netbanking account homepage, and everything matched perfectly. the names, account number everything. There wss no reason to suspect at all. Sadly, it looked too perfect then. Anyway, this was in January, 2015. 3 days back i get a call from someone claiming he had transferred the money to my account in January, and claiming i still hadn't provided the degree to him. I was completely lost, as to what he wanted, but he sounded like someone who already knew he was scammed, so was very patient in talking. Over the course of the next hour, i understood exactly what transpired.
Some guy created a website providing online degree, and this scammed person contacted website, to provide him the degree. the website owner, asked him to make payment to my account, and took all documents from the scammed guy, including his financial records, aadhar, other educational degrees, etc. An absolute identity theft. Whatever, document i asked for, was provided, as the website owner had all the documents.
the website owner and the degree seeker were in touch for last 6 months, but last week the website went down, and the mobile numbers remained switched off. Which is when the scammed guy realised something was amiss. so the only person left for him to contact was me. Which he did.
My November scammed story i will share in a couple of days.
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