[2014-05-07] Silk Road 2.0 Now Larger Than Silk Road Ever Was

[Bit_Happy]

...it appears that the one that has stuck around is "Silk Road 2.0" -- and it's actually now larger than Silk Road ever was, in terms of the amount of products being offered. The article linked above, from Coindesk, notes that, somewhat ironically, the reason why Silk Road 2.0 seems to be standing out above the others is because it's worked hard to establish trust.

    This effect was likely boosted by sensible policies at Silk Road. Most significantly, soon after February’s hack, the site’s operators announced that they would pay back bitcoins lost by customers.

    Silk Road’s moderator Defcon said at the time: “We are committed to getting everyone repaid even if it takes a year.”

    In anonymous drugs marketplaces, as in any market, confidence is key, it seems.
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20140501/18550127094/silk-road-20-now-larger-than-silk-road-ever-was.shtml


Short article....Not much else there.
It's amusing that they would try to make the 1st bust such a big news story and now a bigger one is up and thriving.
The "free market" is deciding there is an online demand for silk? 

[Minor Miner]

Or, maybe it has survived so long because it is the Feds running this site?   Is that beyond the realm of reason?

[Bit_Happy]

Or, maybe it has survived so long because it is the Feds running this site?   Is that beyond the realm of reason?

Possible, and there is no easy way to tell for certain.
I've never visited either Silk Road, but they make for an exciting story.

[Phinnaeus Gage]

What if Silk Road 2.0 didn't have any customers, but claimed they did, then claimed they were hacked, then claimed all it's customers were to be made whole, with nobody complaining because there were no customers in the first place. Now that the hole is plugged sans a leak, trust is now established to garner real customers to participate in the long con.

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?

[hloren70]

LOL, silly feds. Keep on raging the war on drugs, it's been a smashing success so far  

[Bit_Happy]

What if Silk Road 2.0 didn't have any customers, but claimed they did, then claimed they were hacked, then claimed all it's customers were to be made whole, with nobody complaining because there were no customers in the first place. Now that the hole is plugged sans a leak, trust is now established to garner real customers to participate in the long con.

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?
I am not, but if I was would it be smart to admit it here?
If this forum is ever hacked, then many IP addresses will be leaked.

FYI: Some people in the BTC-e trollbox will eagerly admit to buying at Silk Rd 2.0.

[samson]

So what's the URL ?

[Bit_Happy]

So what's the URL ?

If you ask in the the BTC-e trollbox someone will probably know.
...or a Google search?

[hilariousandco]

What if Silk Road 2.0 didn't have any customers, but claimed they did, then claimed they were hacked, then claimed all it's customers were to be made whole, with nobody complaining because there were no customers in the first place. Now that the hole is plugged sans a leak, trust is now established to garner real customers to participate in the long con.

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?
I am not, but if I was would it be smart to admit it here?
If this forum is ever hacked, then many IP addresses will be leaked.

Maybe people are using tor to post here?

Silk Road 2.0 might have more products but it also has more scams and dodgy dealers. I haven't been on there in a while but since the hack and takedown of the escrow system even trusted vendors started scamming. These kind of markets needs to be decentralised really if they want to survive.

[samson]

What if Silk Road 2.0 didn't have any customers, but claimed they did, then claimed they were hacked, then claimed all it's customers were to be made whole, with nobody complaining because there were no customers in the first place. Now that the hole is plugged sans a leak, trust is now established to garner real customers to participate in the long con.

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?
I am not, but if I was would it be smart to admit it here?
If this forum is ever hacked, then many IP addresses will be leaked.

Maybe people are using tor to post here?

Silk Road 2.0 might have more products but it also has more scams and dodgy dealers. I haven't been on there in a while but since the hack and takedown of the escrow system even trusted vendors started scamming. These kind of markets needs to be decentralised really if they want to survive.

Criminals are scamming people now ? This is outrageous 

[bryant.coleman]

Silk Road 2.0 was hacked once and all its coins stolen. But rather than vanishing, the admins promised to pay back the users who lost their coins. And they did that within less than four months. Quite a noble thing to do.

[hilariousandco]

What if Silk Road 2.0 didn't have any customers, but claimed they did, then claimed they were hacked, then claimed all it's customers were to be made whole, with nobody complaining because there were no customers in the first place. Now that the hole is plugged sans a leak, trust is now established to garner real customers to participate in the long con.

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?
I am not, but if I was would it be smart to admit it here?
If this forum is ever hacked, then many IP addresses will be leaked.

Maybe people are using tor to post here?

Silk Road 2.0 might have more products but it also has more scams and dodgy dealers. I haven't been on there in a while but since the hack and takedown of the escrow system even trusted vendors started scamming. These kind of markets needs to be decentralised really if they want to survive.

Criminals are scamming people now ? This is outrageous 

But who makes them criminals? The law. If drugs were decriminalised then we wouldn't have this problem.

[turvarya]

Or, maybe it has survived so long because it is the Feds running this site?   Is that beyond the realm of reason?

I am not really that familiar with the DarkWeb(just visited it a couple of times), but from what I understand, it shouldn't matter who controls Silk Road 2.0, since they don't know the customers or sellers them self. That's the whole Point of the DarkWeb, isn't it?

[cr1776]

What if Silk Road 2.0 didn't have any customers, but claimed they did, then claimed they were hacked, then claimed all it's customers were to be made whole, with nobody complaining because there were no customers in the first place. Now that the hole is plugged sans a leak, trust is now established to garner real customers to participate in the long con.

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?
I am not, but if I was would it be smart to admit it here?
If this forum is ever hacked, then many IP addresses will be leaked.

Maybe people are using tor to post here?

Silk Road 2.0 might have more products but it also has more scams and dodgy dealers. I haven't been on there in a while but since the hack and takedown of the escrow system even trusted vendors started scamming. These kind of markets needs to be decentralised really if they want to survive.

Criminals are scamming people now ? This is outrageous 

But who makes them criminals? The law. If drugs were decriminalised then we wouldn't have this problem.

And the definition of "criminal" varies by jurisdiction. 

In some areas saying "tibetian freedom" makes you a criminal (China).  In others, donating to a particular political group increases your chance of being audited by an order of magnitude (US).

[hilariousandco]

What if Silk Road 2.0 didn't have any customers, but claimed they did, then claimed they were hacked, then claimed all it's customers were to be made whole, with nobody complaining because there were no customers in the first place. Now that the hole is plugged sans a leak, trust is now established to garner real customers to participate in the long con.

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?
I am not, but if I was would it be smart to admit it here?
If this forum is ever hacked, then many IP addresses will be leaked.

Maybe people are using tor to post here?

Silk Road 2.0 might have more products but it also has more scams and dodgy dealers. I haven't been on there in a while but since the hack and takedown of the escrow system even trusted vendors started scamming. These kind of markets needs to be decentralised really if they want to survive.

Criminals are scamming people now ? This is outrageous 

But who makes them criminals? The law. If drugs were decriminalised then we wouldn't have this problem.

And the definition of "criminal" varies by jurisdiction. 

In some areas saying "tibetian freedom" makes you a criminal (China).  In others, donating to a particular political group increases your chance of being audited by an order of magnitude (US).

Exactly. I don't think using drugs should make you a criminal in any instance, and I don't believe most recreational drugs should be illegal in the first place.

[turvarya]

What if Silk Road 2.0 didn't have any customers, but claimed they did, then claimed they were hacked, then claimed all it's customers were to be made whole, with nobody complaining because there were no customers in the first place. Now that the hole is plugged sans a leak, trust is now established to garner real customers to participate in the long con.

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?
I am not, but if I was would it be smart to admit it here?
If this forum is ever hacked, then many IP addresses will be leaked.

Maybe people are using tor to post here?

Silk Road 2.0 might have more products but it also has more scams and dodgy dealers. I haven't been on there in a while but since the hack and takedown of the escrow system even trusted vendors started scamming. These kind of markets needs to be decentralised really if they want to survive.

Criminals are scamming people now ? This is outrageous 

But who makes them criminals? The law. If drugs were decriminalised then we wouldn't have this problem.

And the definition of "criminal" varies by jurisdiction. 

In some areas saying "tibetian freedom" makes you a criminal (China).  In others, donating to a particular political group increases your chance of being audited by an order of magnitude (US).

Exactly. I don't think using drugs should make you a criminal in any instance, and I don't believe most recreational drugs should be illegal in the first place.

So, driving drunk shouldn't be illegal?
I am also all for some Liberation of drugs, but there are really good examples of things that should be illegal.

[Dabs]

Plant extracts, Organic, Grown in Sun light... How could such things be deemed illegal... But they are.

[El Cabron]

What if Silk Road 2.0 didn't have any customers, but claimed they did, then claimed they were hacked, then claimed all it's customers were to be made whole, with nobody complaining because there were no customers in the first place. Now that the hole is plugged sans a leak, trust is now established to garner real customers to participate in the long con.

Who, here, are customers of Silk Road 2.0?

seems reasonable.

tor right now just seems like a govt honey pot.

[hilariousandco]

Exactly. I don't think using drugs should make you a criminal in any instance, and I don't believe most recreational drugs should be illegal in the first place.

So, driving drunk shouldn't be illegal?
I am also all for some Liberation of drugs, but there are really good examples of things that should be illegal.

I meant just the fact of using drugs shouldn't be illegal. Obviously the caveat of as long as you're not harming anyone else applies here. I don't think alcohol should be illegal, but drink driving obviously should be and quite rightly is so.

[MrPiggles]

I wouldn't touch SR2 with a bargepole.

The majority of vendors have also left, or conveniently been hacked and had their accounts taken over.

Plenty of business still goes on there, seemingly.