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April 18, 2011, 06:47:50 AM
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Today for some odd reasons my share went missing.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg88576#msg88576

Is there possibility that a pool owner or operator can steal shares those who mine in his/her pool?
Also, is there some way some one hack/attack & steal shares of members of a pool?
Some one explain.
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April 18, 2011, 06:49:20 AM
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Did you contact the pool operator before making this thread?
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April 18, 2011, 06:57:27 AM
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You're overreacting. Software bugs can happen, you know.
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April 18, 2011, 07:40:31 AM
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Theres already a 3-10% fee on the pool, so i doubt they would steal any, if they did, it'd be a few from each user, so they wouldn't notice..some people are smart, but i doubt anyone 'stole' anything from you.

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April 18, 2011, 08:43:34 AM
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It seems NEWBIES know everything. Still they ask questions.
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April 19, 2011, 09:57:41 AM
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just pointing that it would be much easier for them to steal shares before they make to statistic engine

i.e. 99% of users wouldn't notice if they were 5% short and it unless you have script that counts shares on your side it is virtually undetectable - can be blamed on faulty mining program, bad internet connection, server downtime etc.

if anyone would steal shares in a way you just described... well i guess they wouldn't risk their 3-10% with something that stupid
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April 19, 2011, 10:08:20 AM
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only way I see is to have own mining rig in own pool and hide blocks you find while extending time till next block

you can make it transparent for all if you show in real time all stats, but split pool into two pools, one with proportional and one for PPS payment, with separate stats

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April 19, 2011, 12:55:14 PM
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only way I see is to have own mining rig in own pool and hide blocks you find while extending time till next block

you can make it transparent for all if you show in real time all stats, but split pool into two pools, one with proportional and one for PPS payment, with separate stats

That is easily detectable via Block Explorer.

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April 19, 2011, 03:46:34 PM
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Here try this, if you really think they stole from you, drop it, keep refreshing it like you do, but save each page.  If it happens again... you have proof(at least for your self, pages can be changed easily).  Saying pool owners steal your shares is kinda ridiculous though, you give them shares to make blocks, they are just nice enough to give you some bitcoins in return.

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April 19, 2011, 07:27:47 PM
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http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg88576#msg88576
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg88674#msg88674
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3889.msg88909#msg88909

No reply from pool owner, still.
If the logs he has is same as in my picture, then sure my share been took away/stolen. coz that picture is after 500+ share missing & that means 500+ share is also missing in his log.
If the logs pool owner differs, then it clearly shows, 500 vanished in my page, but it is in his log, but he didn't paid me for that. still stealing.

No reply from pool owner so far why?
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April 19, 2011, 07:35:18 PM
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This makes no sense at all. Why would he show you he is stealing shares from you?

In case of software errors, those happen, that's the risk you take. No one is forcing you to mine in a pool. There's definitely no need to make such a fuss about it.
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April 21, 2011, 01:22:00 AM
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This thread has been "harmonized", the relevant posts have been taken out back and shot. The internet police are watching.

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