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May 11, 2014, 10:16:57 PM
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Hi,

I was wondering when you buy a miner from Bitmain is china does the custom charge duties on it?

Normaly when sending a package from foreign countries there has to be a invoice on the outside showing the value of the product.
But when you pay in bitcoins and the value on the invoice is in bitcoins they should not be legally entitled to raise tax on it because bitcoin is not an official currency in most countries.
People who previous ordered miners and paid them in bitcoins, how did this work out??

I live in the Netherlands.
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May 11, 2014, 10:18:57 PM
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Yes, they do.
You have to pay VAT + Customs clearance fees

Edit: I live in the Netherlands as well.
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May 12, 2014, 05:23:14 AM
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I live in Ecuador. Bitmain sent mine with DHL and listed it on the invoice as a "Video Game Gateway" and listed the value about $160. Ecuadorian Customs only charged about $16 for the duty, which DHL covered and then charged me $10 for the service. So I only paid $26 more than the price of the miner and there was no delay in delivery.

On the other hand, I ordered a PSU from Tiger Direct and Customs not only held it up for a month in Guayaquil, they also charged me an additional $100 on top of the $120 price plus $50 delivery charge!
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May 12, 2014, 06:52:34 AM
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Interesting as each Country takes a different approach.

I live in Australia and there is no customs duty / charges or hold up at all.

Sound great as I get a better deal on import than some of you guys, however you probably pay a lot less in power than I have to  Shocked

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May 12, 2014, 07:04:32 AM
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Power is here expensive as well. I have to pay $0.30 per KWH
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May 12, 2014, 06:31:32 PM
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Hi,

I was wondering when you buy a miner from Bitmain is china does the custom charge duties on it?

Normaly when sending a package from foreign countries there has to be a invoice on the outside showing the value of the product.
But when you pay in bitcoins and the value on the invoice is in bitcoins they should not be legally entitled to raise tax on it because bitcoin is not an official currency in most countries.
People who previous ordered miners and paid them in bitcoins, how did this work out??

I live in the Netherlands.


The Taxman will always require his share, That was a nice surprise for me when i spent 30k on miners the first time around and then got hit with a %20 import tax that i wasnt aware of. Not cool
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May 14, 2014, 11:58:28 PM
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I live in U.S.A. and there were no additional fees on my S1's

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May 15, 2014, 03:06:27 AM
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I live in Greece UPS charged me for clearing customs brokers expenses 100 euros plus VAT paid to the government 23% plus something small I dont know total 130 euro....
UPS rip off
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May 15, 2014, 09:14:51 PM
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One time 41euro, 56euro and now 97Euro for same ANT Miner. Why different customs and tax always? (China - Germany / Bitmain )

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May 16, 2014, 05:11:39 AM
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i live in the usa, no fees as well....

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May 16, 2014, 06:03:25 AM
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how to file a the customs form? put in the exact cost of the miner?

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May 17, 2014, 05:58:42 AM
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how to file a the customs form? put in the exact cost of the miner?


Put in 10 % off the real cost he mean.  Wink
Why want to pay full ,mebe he is a good slave .



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May 18, 2014, 09:45:32 PM
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in portugal i heard from someone that bought that was charged an extra 180€ for it :/

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May 18, 2014, 10:36:45 PM
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Is the S2 still "Computer game gateway" aswell? And how much does the invoice declare?
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May 19, 2014, 09:28:49 AM
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in portugal i heard from someone that bought that was charged an extra 180€ for it :/

what rule did they based for the charge?!

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May 19, 2014, 04:12:53 PM
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im in canada, when mine are delivered i only pay about $13.00 per S1, and its for brokerage fees by UPS. Also on the invoice they always say the miner is approx $200.00.

UPS has bulk deals on brokerage fees, the larger the order, the less you pay, it's a % of the order and the larger the order, the lower the % they take; or so it used to be when I dealt with them more often.  I don't order much using UPS, so it's about $20+ a piece.  I think I read somewhere some schmuck returned his AntMiners because he couldn't afford the duties on them, then has the guts to tell BitMain Tech that the duties were not advertised as a being COD; things they don't tell you when you become an importer lol

Oh!  Here's a site a few people might like Smiley

http://www.dutycalculator.com/ - I used to work in customs brokerage, this is a good tool to ESTIMATE duties.

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May 19, 2014, 08:19:00 PM
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One time 41euro, 56euro and now 97Euro for same ANT Miner. Why different customs and tax always? (China - Germany / Bitmain )


Any idea why always different customs on same product?

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May 20, 2014, 02:39:06 PM
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One time 41euro, 56euro and now 97Euro for same ANT Miner. Why different customs and tax always? (China - Germany / Bitmain )

I have the same question.


Any idea why always different customs on same product?

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May 20, 2014, 10:02:47 PM
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UK is something like %20 of the value of the miner.
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May 22, 2014, 04:52:55 AM
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UK is something like %20 of the value of the miner.

20% that is a lot!

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