Getting paid for signature space?

[lynn_402]

Its bad practice i think, i got only sites that i like, noone paying me for this. Community should be community, not pursuers (posters) for profit

Why not get the best of both worlds, and profit by advertising a business that's good for the community?
Gambling websites are an important contribution to the relevance of cryptocurrencies, since dealing with fiat on them can be quite inconveniant.

Signature ad does have bring some advantages and some disadvantages to the forum community.
IMO. the main advantage is that it allows bitcoin business (casinos, exchanges, mixers, miners, etc) to get advertised more easily; while the biggest disadvantage is that it encourages spam and pointless posts.

Yeah that's true, but most of them don't pay the pointless posts though.

[mprep]

Its bad practice i think, i got only sites that i like, noone paying me for this. Community should be community, not pursuers (posters) for profit

Why not get the best of both worlds, and profit by advertising a business that's good for the community?
Gambling websites are an important contribution to the relevance of cryptocurrencies, since dealing with fiat on them can be quite inconveniant.

Signature ad does have bring some advantages and some disadvantages to the forum community.
IMO. the main advantage is that it allows bitcoin business (casinos, exchanges, mixers, miners, etc) to get advertised more easily; while the biggest disadvantage is that it encourages spam and pointless posts.

Yeah that's true, but most of them don't pay the pointless posts though.

However, sig campaign organizers usually can't review every post every participant has written, thus many spammers still thrive... until we get them .

[ranochigo]

Its bad practice i think, i got only sites that i like, noone paying me for this. Community should be community, not pursuers (posters) for profit

Well, it isn't a bad practice, many signature campaigns have limits which prevents spammers. They would also require constructive posts to qualify for a payout. There isn't much to earn from them and there is not much trusted campaigns around. I doubt there will be as much responses to discuss about things if there are no signature campaigns. People would most likely be motivated to post and contribute more to the community.

[SelbyTsang]

However, sig campaign organizers usually can't review every post every participant has written, thus many spammers still thrive... until we get them .

True, especially for sig campaign with a long list of participants like PD, and AFAIK there were a handful of persons able to make 1000 posts a month.
Now, with a much lower post cap, the problem should be less severe hopefully.

[CEG5952]

Just be warned with new signature campaigns. They can have you advertise for a month and then disappear without paying.  The income for sig campaigns should be incidental - you should not post spam posts and "me too" or "+1" replies to pad your post count.

Yeah, there's been some no-pay situations to be sure, and Updown.bt is still kind of up in the air. Hopefully he clears everything up. Re: spamming, I've seen quite a few accounts banned, who were clearly grinding out that signature ad money...

[Ludi]

Its bad practice i think, i got only sites that i like, noone paying me for this. Community should be community, not pursuers (posters) for profit

As above it's good for the bitcoin economy. Maybe one day there will be more advertisers than just  bitcoin casinos and miners.

[Yakamoto]

Its bad practice i think, i got only sites that i like, noone paying me for this. Community should be community, not pursuers (posters) for profit

Well, it isn't a bad practice, many signature campaigns have limits which prevents spammers. They would also require constructive posts to qualify for a payout. There isn't much to earn from them and there is not much trusted campaigns around. I doubt there will be as much responses to discuss about things if there are no signature campaigns. People would most likely be motivated to post and contribute more to the community.

This is true, there are limits (Usually 100 posts/payout) and there are constructive post requirements. I know because I've been assisting in managing a campaign for the past two weeks, going into my third week. However, there are some trusted campaigns that do exist, regardless if they're just starting out or not. You have to look, but a week of lost time probably won't be too damaging on someone if there isn't a payout. Unless you really need the BTC, in which case there's not a lot you can do about it. Look for a trusted campaign, and hope you can still speak yourself in.

Just be warned with new signature campaigns. They can have you advertise for a month and then disappear without paying.  The income for sig campaigns should be incidental - you should not post spam posts and "me too" or "+1" replies to pad your post count.

Yeah, there's been some no-pay situations to be sure, and Updown.bt is still kind of up in the air. Hopefully he clears everything up. Re: spamming, I've seen quite a few accounts banned, who were clearly grinding out that signature ad money...

Yeah, I've seen lots of said posters who spammed to grind out some ad money. It's kind of a letdown to see, but there are some people that are in just for the profit. As for UpDown, I haven't been following that, so I can't say anything with confidence.

Its bad practice i think, i got only sites that i like, noone paying me for this. Community should be community, not pursuers (posters) for profit

As above it's good for the bitcoin economy. Maybe one day there will be more advertisers than just  bitcoin casinos and miners.

It would be wonderful to have more people providing advertising instead of just mining companies and gambling companies. Even if there where some exchanges that opened up ad campaigns for people, I would definitely spice up the market place. And even individual merchants advertising their stores or services wouldn't be bad either. The problem is, there are so many campaigns with extremely large payouts, is that it becomes difficult for advertisers without a large amount of capital to compete with the other campaigns.

[Professor Plums]

Its bad practice i think, i got only sites that i like, noone paying me for this. Community should be community, not pursuers (posters) for profit

As above it's good for the bitcoin economy. Maybe one day there will be more advertisers than just  bitcoin casinos and miners.

It would be wonderful to have more people providing advertising instead of just mining companies and gambling companies. Even if there where some exchanges that opened up ad campaigns for people, I would definitely spice up the market place. And even individual merchants advertising their stores or services wouldn't be bad either. The problem is, there are so many campaigns with extremely large payouts, is that it becomes difficult for advertisers without a large amount of capital to compete with the other campaigns.

I think that's because mining and casinos are two of the biggest or more profitable businesses right now. This will chnage as bitcoin grows so i'd expect to see a host of different companies advertising here.

[anivia]

It seems like I`m so far away.. from getting any btc going on lol.

Faucets suck too.

[CEG5952]

It seems like I`m so far away.. from getting any btc going on lol.

Faucets suck too.

Yeah, faucets won't get you too far. As far as signature ads, there are accounts being bought/sold in the digital goods subforum. It's sort of frowned upon, but I get the feeling that more than a few newbies have gone that route.

[dipal]

My personal opinion here is signature campaign do help admins for their ultimate purpose of increasing traffic.

It is not the way to beg few pennys but to encourage new bee also to take interest in such activities .

Any business works well if they have supporters. signature campaign results in creating lots of supporters for that particular business.

It is basically low cost medium of advertising business and there is nothing wrong there
 

[Farmer17]

It seems like I`m so far away.. from getting any btc going on lol.

Faucets suck too.

Yeah, faucets won't get you too far. As far as signature ads, there are accounts being bought/sold in the digital goods subforum. It's sort of frowned upon, but I get the feeling that more than a few newbies have gone that route.

I wouldn't suggest newbies to buy a "higher rank" account at all.
The account seller could get the accounts back at any time in the future (FYI: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0), and also the account could get negative trust and become worthless if the account sale is made public.

[ranochigo]

It seems like I`m so far away.. from getting any btc going on lol.

Faucets suck too.

Yeah, faucets won't get you too far. As far as signature ads, there are accounts being bought/sold in the digital goods subforum. It's sort of frowned upon, but I get the feeling that more than a few newbies have gone that route.

I wouldn't suggest newbies to buy a "higher rank" account at all.
The account seller could get the accounts back at any time in the future (FYI: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0), and also the account could get negative trust and become worthless if the account sale is made public.

If the writing style changes, change in IP address or much active than before, it can be a sign of the account being stolen or bought. Not accurate though, but a likely sign. Newbies shouldn't buy that since they may not be able to get constructive post.

[Kprawn]

Well not the easiest thing, to get into a proper paying signature campaign though.

But it's possible.

[Malin Keshar]

It seems like I`m so far away.. from getting any btc going on lol.

Faucets suck too.

Yeah, faucets won't get you too far. As far as signature ads, there are accounts being bought/sold in the digital goods subforum. It's sort of frowned upon, but I get the feeling that more than a few newbies have gone that route.

I wouldn't suggest newbies to buy a "higher rank" account at all.
The account seller could get the accounts back at any time in the future (FYI: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0), and also the account could get negative trust and become worthless if the account sale is made public.

If the writing style changes, change in IP address or much active than before, it can be a sign of the account being stolen or bought. Not accurate though, but a likely sign. Newbies shouldn't buy that since they may not be able to get constructive post.

Only theymos can see the IPs, and I think neither him or any staff member will hunt sold accounts, since it is allowed in the forum rules. Others signals may or may not be accurate, deppending of how popular the former owner was.

But the constructive posts stuff is something you have to think, you don't know if the bought account have been banned before, so your new ban can be a very long one, or maybe a permanent one.

[blitzcrank]

It seems like I`m so far away.. from getting any btc going on lol.

Faucets suck too.

Yeah, faucets won't get you too far. As far as signature ads, there are accounts being bought/sold in the digital goods subforum. It's sort of frowned upon, but I get the feeling that more than a few newbies have gone that route.

I wouldn't suggest newbies to buy a "higher rank" account at all.
The account seller could get the accounts back at any time in the future (FYI: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0), and also the account could get negative trust and become worthless if the account sale is made public.

If the writing style changes, change in IP address or much active than before, it can be a sign of the account being stolen or bought. Not accurate though, but a likely sign. Newbies shouldn't buy that since they may not be able to get constructive post.

Only theymos can see the IPs, and I think neither him or any staff member will hunt sold accounts, since it is allowed in the forum rules. Others signals may or may not be accurate, deppending of how popular the former owner was.

But the constructive posts stuff is something you have to think, you don't know if the bought account have been banned before, so your new ban can be a very long one, or maybe a permanent one.

Then why do you they allow it in the 1st place? I dont get it.. lol.

[silvestar]

It seems like I`m so far away.. from getting any btc going on lol.

Faucets suck too.

Yeah, faucets won't get you too far. As far as signature ads, there are accounts being bought/sold in the digital goods subforum. It's sort of frowned upon, but I get the feeling that more than a few newbies have gone that route.

I wouldn't suggest newbies to buy a "higher rank" account at all.
The account seller could get the accounts back at any time in the future (FYI: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0), and also the account could get negative trust and become worthless if the account sale is made public.

If the writing style changes, change in IP address or much active than before, it can be a sign of the account being stolen or bought. Not accurate though, but a likely sign. Newbies shouldn't buy that since they may not be able to get constructive post.

Only theymos can see the IPs, and I think neither him or any staff member will hunt sold accounts, since it is allowed in the forum rules. Others signals may or may not be accurate, deppending of how popular the former owner was.

But the constructive posts stuff is something you have to think, you don't know if the bought account have been banned before, so your new ban can be a very long one, or maybe a permanent one.

Then why do you they allow it in the 1st place? I dont get it.. lol.

Please check https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=303414.msg3269475#msg3269475.

As it has been answered, yes Forum accounts are allowed to be bought or sold, and you may have more than one. The reason being, it would be impossible for the staff to weed out all account sales and multiple accounts. We just couldn't do it, so by allowing it, everyone is aware that it happens and knows to watch out for it if they need to. If we said no buying/selling accounts and no alt accounts allowed, the many people who could slip through the cracks would be able to do far more damage, as the community wouldn't be on guard the same way it is now.

That being said, buying/selling accounts isn't always bad, people can use the accounts for paid signature advertising, giveaways, and whatnaught, rather than using them to scam. There are scammers, and those that use alts responsibly. Some people have alt/purchased accounts so that they may speak their mind without fear of people associating certain ideals or policies to them. For example, and established business may not like to post their personal opinions which may be unpopular on the account that also is used to faciliate trade.

I hope this clears it up a bit better.

[CEG5952]

It seems like I`m so far away.. from getting any btc going on lol.

Faucets suck too.

Yeah, faucets won't get you too far. As far as signature ads, there are accounts being bought/sold in the digital goods subforum. It's sort of frowned upon, but I get the feeling that more than a few newbies have gone that route.

I wouldn't suggest newbies to buy a "higher rank" account at all.
The account seller could get the accounts back at any time in the future (FYI: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0), and also the account could get negative trust and become worthless if the account sale is made public.

I wasn't really suggesting anything. Just pointing out that it's done and that it's frowned upon. But it is allowed. It does take a certain level of trust in the account seller since, yes, they can recover the account by signing a transaction from an address linked to the account. But they won't get very far selling accounts that way.

[Jamestear]

It seems like I`m so far away.. from getting any btc going on lol.

Faucets suck too.

Yeah, faucets won't get you too far. As far as signature ads, there are accounts being bought/sold in the digital goods subforum. It's sort of frowned upon, but I get the feeling that more than a few newbies have gone that route.

I wouldn't suggest newbies to buy a "higher rank" account at all.
The account seller could get the accounts back at any time in the future (FYI: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0), and also the account could get negative trust and become worthless if the account sale is made public.

If the writing style changes, change in IP address or much active than before, it can be a sign of the account being stolen or bought. Not accurate though, but a likely sign. Newbies shouldn't buy that since they may not be able to get constructive post.

Only theymos can see the IPs, and I think neither him or any staff member will hunt sold accounts, since it is allowed in the forum rules. Others signals may or may not be accurate, deppending of how popular the former owner was.

But the constructive posts stuff is something you have to think, you don't know if the bought account have been banned before, so your new ban can be a very long one, or maybe a permanent one.

Then why do you they allow it in the 1st place? I dont get it.. lol.

Their own reason is because they can't keep track of ALL account sales and trades. From my own point of view why wouldn't it be allowed? A forum account has a value, therefore you should be able to sell it.

[Gimmelfarb]

Their own reason is because they can't keep track of ALL account sales and trades. From my own point of view why wouldn't it be allowed? A forum account has a value, therefore you should be able to sell it.

from a purely libertarian standpoint, this would be the case. however, there are some considerations -- buying a trusted forum account could potentially set people up to get scammed, since no one would be aware that the account had changed hands.