Comcast DNS Now Fails on Bitcoinica?

[cypherdoc]

wow so this is why bitcoinica hasnt been loading for me!   

just installed openDNS screw comcast!

You don't have to install any software. You can use googles DNS so you just point your router or pc at 4.4.4.4 or 8.8.8.8

how does openDNS or googleDNS work?

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[Red Emerald]

wow so this is why bitcoinica hasnt been loading for me!   

just installed openDNS screw comcast!

You don't have to install any software. You can use googles DNS so you just point your router or pc at 4.4.4.4 or 8.8.8.8

how does openDNS or googleDNS work?

They are public dns servers.  Do you know how DNS works?

http://www.opendns.com/ http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/

[cypherdoc]

wow so this is why bitcoinica hasnt been loading for me!   

just installed openDNS screw comcast!

You don't have to install any software. You can use googles DNS so you just point your router or pc at 4.4.4.4 or 8.8.8.8

how does openDNS or googleDNS work?

They are public dns servers.  Do you know how DNS works?

http://www.opendns.com/ http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/

not really which is probably why i can't relate to Namecoin.

[notme]

wow so this is why bitcoinica hasnt been loading for me!   

just installed openDNS screw comcast!

You don't have to install any software. You can use googles DNS so you just point your router or pc at 4.4.4.4 or 8.8.8.8

how does openDNS or googleDNS work?

They are public dns servers.  Do you know how DNS works?

http://www.opendns.com/ http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/

not really which is probably why i can't relate to Namecoin.

DNS or Domain Name Service simply turns a name (bitcoinica.com) into an IP address (50.56.4.62).  This IP address is used to identify the computer you are communicating with, and to help your communications find the best path to that computer.  Normally, you use the DNS server provided by your ISP, but when that server isn't providing you with the information you want, you can use any public DNS server by changing the IP address you send your queries to.

[cypherdoc]

wow so this is why bitcoinica hasnt been loading for me!  

just installed openDNS screw comcast!

You don't have to install any software. You can use googles DNS so you just point your router or pc at 4.4.4.4 or 8.8.8.8

how does openDNS or googleDNS work?

They are public dns servers.  Do you know how DNS works?

http://www.opendns.com/ http://code.google.com/speed/public-dns/

not really which is probably why i can't relate to Namecoin.

DNS or Domain Name Service simply turns a name (bitcoinica.com) into an IP address (50.56.4.62).  This IP address is used to identify the computer you are communicating with, and to help your communications find the best path to that computer.  Normally, you use the DNS server provided by your ISP, but when that server isn't providing you with the information you want, you can use any public DNS server by changing the IP address you send your queries to.

i've entered preferred DNS server numbers into my IPv4 LAN connection settings a zillion times but never really understood what the hell i was doing.  so they don't have to be Cox's but any server i so choose?

[notme]

i've entered preferred DNS server numbers into my IPv4 LAN connection settings a zillion times but never really understood what the hell i was doing.  so they don't have to be Cox's but any server i so choose?

Right... you can even write your own DNS server that points every name to bitcoinica's IP if you so choose .

[cypherdoc]

i've entered preferred DNS server numbers into my IPv4 LAN connection settings a zillion times but never really understood what the hell i was doing.  so they don't have to be Cox's but any server i so choose?

Right... you can even write your own DNS server that points every name to bitcoinica's IP if you so choose .

well then, Cox better not mess with ME!

[Dutch Merganser]

i've entered preferred DNS server numbers into my IPv4 LAN connection settings a zillion times but never really understood what the hell i was doing.  so they don't have to be Cox's but any server i so choose?

Right... you can even write your own DNS server that points every name to bitcoinica's IP if you so choose .

FWIW, I've run a local DNS server since my client was OS2 2.0 and my connection was dial up, with a slow connection it did a lot for reducing perceived latency when web browsing.

These days there are a lot of alternatives, but the standard is a program called BIND, which can be had for just about any platform. Linux distributions provide it universally, and it's pretty tolerable to set up on Windows as well. It does things beyond simple caching that the built-in Windows DNS cache does not.

http://www.isc.org/software/bind

The simplest thing to set up with BIND is a caching server with forwarding, the last time I installed it under Windows ( sometime in the 1990s ) this was the default configuration. You do have to add the IP addresses for your forwarding servers ( e.g. your ISP ) and then point your local IP configuration to query the local name server at 127.0.0.1 .

The reason I mention all this is that I had a hard time replicating the problem described here, I'd never seen it. It had been so long since I did my set up I had to consider why.

As it turns out, my DNS forwarders are Comcast and Google. Here's a portion of my named.conf, one of the configuration files for bind ( the program executable is usually "named" or "named.exe" ).

        forward first;
        forwarders {
                75.75.75.75;
                75.75.76.76;
                8.8.8.8;
                8.8.4.4;
        };

Beyond that BIND will identify the authoritative name servers for a given name and query those directly, in this case NS1.XWAYLAB.COM and NS2.XWAYLAB.COM for bitcoinica.com .

So, using BIND can provide robust name resolution from multiple sources, it worked transparently for me with the bitcoinica .com DNSSEC issue present, most likely by using Google to resolve the authoritative servers and then using those to resolve the actual name.

[Red Emerald]

i've entered preferred DNS server numbers into my IPv4 LAN connection settings a zillion times but never really understood what the hell i was doing.  so they don't have to be Cox's but any server i so choose?

Right... you can even write your own DNS server that points every name to bitcoinica's IP if you so choose .

FWIW, I've run a local DNS server since my client was OS2 2.0 and my connection was dial up, with a slow connection it did a lot for reducing perceived latency when web browsing.

These days there are a lot of alternatives, but the standard is a program called BIND, which can be had for just about any platform. Linux distributions provide it universally, and it's pretty tolerable to set up on Windows as well. It does things beyond simple caching that the built-in Windows DNS cache does not.

http://www.isc.org/software/bind

The simplest thing to set up with BIND is a caching server with forwarding, the last time I installed it under Windows ( sometime in the 1990s ) this was the default configuration. You do have to add the IP addresses for your forwarding servers ( e.g. your ISP ) and then point your local IP configuration to query the local name server at 127.0.0.1 .

The reason I mention all this is that I had a hard time replicating the problem described here, I'd never seen it. It had been so long since I did my set up I had to consider why.

As it turns out, my DNS forwarders are Comcast and Google. Here's a portion of my named.conf, one of the configuration files for bind ( the program executable is usually "named" or "named.exe" ).

        forward first;
        forwarders {
                75.75.75.75;
                75.75.76.76;
                8.8.8.8;
                8.8.4.4;
        };

Beyond that BIND will identify the authoritative name servers for a given name and query those directly, in this case NS1.XWAYLAB.COM and NS2.XWAYLAB.COM for bitcoinica.com .

So, using BIND can provide robust name resolution from multiple sources, it worked transparently for me with the bitcoinica .com DNSSEC issue present, most likely by using Google to resolve the authoritative servers and then using those to resolve the actual name.

If you do setup your own DNS, its also easy to resolve .bit IP names.

Code:

zone "bit" {
        type forward;
        forwarders {
                178.32.31.41; // French bit DNS
                78.47.86.43;  // German bit DNS
        };
};
zone "onion" {
        type master;
        file "named.empty";
        allow-update { none; };
};

[Dutch Merganser]

i've entered preferred DNS server numbers into my IPv4 LAN connection settings a zillion times but never really understood what the hell i was doing.  so they don't have to be Cox's but any server i so choose?

Right... you can even write your own DNS server that points every name to bitcoinica's IP if you so choose .

FWIW, I've run a local DNS server since my client was OS2 2.0 and my connection was dial up, with a slow connection it did a lot for reducing perceived latency when web browsing.

These days there are a lot of alternatives, but the standard is a program called BIND, which can be had for just about any platform. Linux distributions provide it universally, and it's pretty tolerable to set up on Windows as well. It does things beyond simple caching that the built-in Windows DNS cache does not.

http://www.isc.org/software/bind

The simplest thing to set up with BIND is a caching server with forwarding, the last time I installed it under Windows ( sometime in the 1990s ) this was the default configuration. You do have to add the IP addresses for your forwarding servers ( e.g. your ISP ) and then point your local IP configuration to query the local name server at 127.0.0.1 .

The reason I mention all this is that I had a hard time replicating the problem described here, I'd never seen it. It had been so long since I did my set up I had to consider why.

As it turns out, my DNS forwarders are Comcast and Google. Here's a portion of my named.conf, one of the configuration files for bind ( the program executable is usually "named" or "named.exe" ).

        forward first;
        forwarders {
                75.75.75.75;
                75.75.76.76;
                8.8.8.8;
                8.8.4.4;
        };

Beyond that BIND will identify the authoritative name servers for a given name and query those directly, in this case NS1.XWAYLAB.COM and NS2.XWAYLAB.COM for bitcoinica.com .

So, using BIND can provide robust name resolution from multiple sources, it worked transparently for me with the bitcoinica .com DNSSEC issue present, most likely by using Google to resolve the authoritative servers and then using those to resolve the actual name.

If you do setup your own DNS, its also easy to resolve .bit IP names.

Code:

zone "bit" {
        type forward;
        forwarders {
                178.32.31.41; // French bit DNS
                78.47.86.43;  // German bit DNS
        };
};
zone "onion" {
        type master;
        file "named.empty";
        allow-update { none; };
};

Good stuff. It reminded me that at one time or the other I've configured some of the alternate DNS services that have come and gone over the years this way.

When I first became acquainted with BIND I had to deal with a worldwide private corporate network parts of which were set up by lazy/crazy people who never bothered to RTFM before they started, definitely the bad old days. It made me handier with BIND than I ever wanted to be. Things are so much simpler these days that I'm definitely out of practice