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August 08, 2014, 02:21:07 PM |
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Basically jjj your homeboy Marc Coumans is lying scumbag scammer. Whatever it is he's trying to sell off as MAT miners are really Coinbau wolfcaves rebranded. Since you talk to him so often, you'd know this already, either that or you're in the process of getting your masters degree in the art of shilling. Bcp19 would be so proud.... ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I totally disagree. When you buy a phone from Apple they don't tell you that's made at a sweat shop in China where people have jumped to their deaths. NO company is required to disclose their sources and neither was MAT - My guess was at that time everything was peachy dandy between the two companies and things went awry which is why those guys are out here now calling MAT liars - seems like they have an axe to grind. secondly - please tell me where anyone on this planet can go to purchase a Coinbau wolfcave and there is appraently a season for that - have you asked yourself that? My guess is that it a) never worked or b) the cost or time frame to manufacture was simply not within the realm of reality. Was MAT under some obligation to inform me that the units they showed were built by someone else? that answer is NO Did mat OWN those systems? - The answer is YES - they paid for the systems and they were indeed theirs. The bottom line here is that you have some sort of axe to grind and you are overlooking the facts - if these machine were really what they allege to be don't you think they'd be in production by now an for sale? and they are not - show me where I can buy one please? what I know from experience is that there are three sides to every story - his side, their side and the real truth lies somewhere in between. for now I am banking on MAT to get me machines and I personally could care less who built them - seriously. finally - why are you guys so spiteful and vengeful and filled with such venom - what did MAT every do to you? last time I checked I was the guy with the deposit with them - not you.... LOL - if anyone should be filled with rage if could be me, but I have no time in my life for hatred - it's a losing proposition... as always I remain hopeful and nothing I've learned here today has changed my mind.
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jjj0923 (OP)
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August 08, 2014, 02:37:08 PM |
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shill or stupid
or both
let's just say both and I'll laugh when I get my machines. I refuse to be sucked into the black hole that is the vortex of doom that permeates you guys. LOL
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August 08, 2014, 02:40:49 PM |
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let's just say both and I'll laugh when I get my machines.
I refuse to be sucked into the black hole that is the vortex of doom that permeates you guys.
LOL
Weren't you supposed to have received them already? I thought it was mid-july? Curious as to how long you'll hold out hope for. Like, are you going to start sweating bulletts if you haven't received anything by November, December..?
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jjj0923 (OP)
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August 08, 2014, 02:50:53 PM |
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let's just say both and I'll laugh when I get my machines.
I refuse to be sucked into the black hole that is the vortex of doom that permeates you guys.
LOL
Weren't you supposed to have received them already? I thought it was mid-july? Curious as to how long you'll hold out hope for. Like, are you going to start sweating bulletts if you haven't received anything by November, December..? true: I was hoping for July and that's what Marc relayed to me but he did tell me two weeks ago there were some delays, but the way I'm looking at this is relatively simple. Right now there is nothing on the market that even comes close to the speed of these machines for the $/MH that they will be. KNC certainly does not appear to be anywhere close to delivering that they promised. Nothing is coming out of China except for what GAW has announced and that's not until November/December. As it related to sweating bullets: If I have not received anything by the end end of September I'll be filing suit in a Danish court against MAT, but I highly doubt it will come to that. Fortunately for me a business contact of mine does a lot of legal work throughout Europe and I already have the name of an Attorney in Denmark to represent me if it comes to that. I'm kind of like Ronald Reagan when he referred to the Russians. I do a lot of leg work on companies and individuals up front before forking over money : my motto is: Trust but verify. In the meantime - life goes on and it's Friday here an I'll be boating on bay this weekend with a cocktail in hand, not worrying about this stuff!
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August 08, 2014, 02:56:23 PM |
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Fucking busted.
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August 08, 2014, 02:57:37 PM |
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I refuse to be sucked into the black hole that is the vortex of doom that permeates you guys.
It's past experience from the community and a strong desire to stop the scammers from taking advantage of new miners that we dose a huge amount of skepticism on any new asic mining manufacturer. We're all completely sick and tired of this which is why we all sigh when another one pops up, steals money, and delivers nothing. Mining isn't a religion so people need to quit believing and hoping.
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jjj0923 (OP)
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August 08, 2014, 03:01:03 PM |
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I refuse to be sucked into the black hole that is the vortex of doom that permeates you guys.
It's past experience from the community and a strong desire to stop the scammers from taking advantage of new miners that we dose a huge amount of skepticism on any new asic mining manufacturer. We're all completely sick and tired of this which is why we all sigh when another one pops up, steals money, and delivers nothing. Mining isn't a religion so people need to quit believing and hoping. correct - mining is a challenge!!! LOL but you know the same skepticism flourished months ago when I look back through threads and then we has the gridseed and look now we have 90mh A2 units selling for $3,999 and I've been buying 54MH units for $899 - crazy huh?
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dekodoge
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August 08, 2014, 03:02:46 PM |
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JJJ0923 why not get MAT online to explain themselves here? I'm sure they have answers.
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jjj0923 (OP)
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August 08, 2014, 03:05:03 PM |
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JJJ0923 why not get MAT online to explain themselves here? I'm sure they have answers.
why don't you? you're the one who wants answers - his email address is posted right on the website
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August 08, 2014, 03:13:27 PM |
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JJJ0923 why not get MAT online to explain themselves here? I'm sure they have answers.
why don't you? you're the one who wants answers - his email address is posted right on the website I think deko would, but his sig doesn't have "Pointing out injustice everywhere!"
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August 08, 2014, 03:32:35 PM |
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JJJ0923 why not get MAT online to explain themselves here? I'm sure they have answers.
why don't you? you're the one who wants answers - his email address is posted right on the website I think deko would, but his sig doesn't have "Pointing out injustice everywhere!" LOL.
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August 11, 2014, 05:16:23 PM |
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Loving how MAT bought in his demo units from some other outfit, busted.
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August 11, 2014, 05:24:12 PM |
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I refuse to be sucked into the black hole that is the vortex of doom that permeates you guysz
Some of us learned to avoid that pre-order vortex of doom you speak of. From where I'm sittin', I'd say it looks like you're the one that's getting sucked into the black hole here.
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August 12, 2014, 06:31:56 AM |
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As it related to sweating bullets: If I have not received anything by the end end of September I'll be filing suit in a Danish court against MAT, but I highly doubt it will come to that.
Fortunately for me a business contact of mine does a lot of legal work throughout Europe and I already have the name of an Attorney in Denmark to represent me if it comes to that. I'm kind of like Ronald Reagan when he referred to the Russians. I do a lot of leg work on companies and individuals up front before forking over money : my motto is: Trust but verify.
In the meantime - life goes on and it's Friday here an I'll be boating on bay this weekend with a cocktail in hand, not worrying about this stuff!
But why a Danish court, it is a dutch based company?
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August 12, 2014, 05:27:11 PM |
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jjj0923 did your miner turn up? when is it due to land?
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August 12, 2014, 05:38:15 PM |
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As it related to sweating bullets: If I have not received anything by the end end of September I'll be filing suit in a Danish court against MAT, but I highly doubt it will come to that.
Fortunately for me a business contact of mine does a lot of legal work throughout Europe and I already have the name of an Attorney in Denmark to represent me if it comes to that. I'm kind of like Ronald Reagan when he referred to the Russians. I do a lot of leg work on companies and individuals up front before forking over money : my motto is: Trust but verify.
In the meantime - life goes on and it's Friday here an I'll be boating on bay this weekend with a cocktail in hand, not worrying about this stuff!
But why a Danish court, it is a dutch based company? You can sue all you want, doesn't matter if they've skimmed the money which in this sort of time frame they almost certainly have. Or that it will cost you 2x as much in legal fees to even get a judgement on how much you lost, nevermind even attempt to enforce that judgement on the money which now doesn't exist. tldr, I'm sorry.
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August 14, 2014, 05:34:09 AM |
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As it related to sweating bullets: If I have not received anything by the end end of September I'll be filing suit in a Danish court against MAT, but I highly doubt it will come to that.
Fortunately for me a business contact of mine does a lot of legal work throughout Europe and I already have the name of an Attorney in Denmark to represent me if it comes to that. I'm kind of like Ronald Reagan when he referred to the Russians. I do a lot of leg work on companies and individuals up front before forking over money : my motto is: Trust but verify.
In the meantime - life goes on and it's Friday here an I'll be boating on bay this weekend with a cocktail in hand, not worrying about this stuff!
But why a Danish court, it is a dutch based company? It's the beauty of EU law. Member states can sue someone in another EU state. Best of luck with it. aFox in France sued KnC in Sweden and forced them to refund the miner's money as well as pay legal fees. (said lawyer is no longer taking miner cases - must be too much work too little pay)
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August 14, 2014, 02:01:00 PM |
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As it related to sweating bullets: If I have not received anything by the end end of September I'll be filing suit in a Danish court against MAT, but I highly doubt it will come to that.
Fortunately for me a business contact of mine does a lot of legal work throughout Europe and I already have the name of an Attorney in Denmark to represent me if it comes to that. I'm kind of like Ronald Reagan when he referred to the Russians. I do a lot of leg work on companies and individuals up front before forking over money : my motto is: Trust but verify.
In the meantime - life goes on and it's Friday here an I'll be boating on bay this weekend with a cocktail in hand, not worrying about this stuff!
But why a Danish court, it is a dutch based company? It's the beauty of EU law. Member states can sue someone in another EU state. Best of luck with it. aFox in France sued KnC in Sweden and forced them to refund the miner's money as well as pay legal fees. (said lawyer is no longer taking miner cases - must be too much work too little pay) was reading the scam thread then I saw this last post. You have to know that lawyers in France doesn't take a % of the indemnity (or it's very rare). You just pay them (in advance ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) ) . The loser has to pay everything : justice fees, opponent lawyer, indemnity (if applicable).
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August 18, 2014, 08:32:48 AM |
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So mass production has started without a working prototype. Ok.
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