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May 16, 2014, 04:11:43 PM
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How does a SR work? Do you just go to the website and see lots of drugs for sale, you put it in a cart and checkout?

well, yeah. that's how it works basically. i read there's an escrow system which is to help prevent fraud. the funds held in escrow are released when the buyer receives his stuff.

Wow that's wild. No wonder the Mercian popo wants to shut it down. It makes the drug war look so stupid if you can ship it straight to a house. They should call it Amazope or Dopeazon. Then you could have Amazope Prime. They can't get it to you in two days guaranteed but they could smoke it for you and guarantee to tell you what a great high it was within two days.

Is anybody concerned that Amazope is just a government honey pot for little piggies that want more slop in their trough?

it's probably a lot safer than buying drugs out on the street too. less likely to get shanked, and not to mention that you can see reviews of a vendor's reputation... so you have a better idea of who you are dealing with.
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May 16, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
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that's a game the governement can't win. if it is closed another market will take the customers and so on, it will last forever
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May 16, 2014, 07:38:47 PM
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It makes the drug war look so stupid if you can ship it straight to a house.
The drug war isn't just a stupid, massively expensive unsustainable failure. It's also asinine, greedy, and cruel.

Please see: Ending the War on Drugs with Compassion

Please read The New Jim Crow.

Remember Aaron Swartz, a 26 year old computer scientist who died defending the free flow of information.
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May 16, 2014, 08:07:18 PM
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I looked at the tor listings recently, and the drug markets appear to be flourishing.
There is a dozen now, SR2.0 is apparently the biggest, but there are 3-4 with a close
volume. What is more, several of them offer multisig escrow, so the market cannot steal
the funds.  That seems really cool.

 I don't know whether any implements hedging against price fluctuations,
like SR did. Anyone knows?
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May 16, 2014, 08:37:49 PM
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yeah, funny enough as it is.. the silk road and the internet drug marketplace might actually do more good than harm. that toppled with legal marijuana sweeping across the nation.. maybe in 10 years the drug cartels will become weaker, but then again i bet silk road's goods come from the cartels anyways.
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May 16, 2014, 09:13:51 PM
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I looked at the tor listings recently, and the drug markets appear to be flourishing.
There is a dozen now, SR2.0 is apparently the biggest, but there are 3-4 with a close
volume. What is more, several of them offer multisig escrow, so the market cannot steal
the funds.  That seems really cool.

 I don't know whether any implements hedging against price fluctuations,
like SR did. Anyone knows?

Do they all use Bitcoin? I would think that there are better options than that now. Bitcoin is too "under the microscope" to be useful for drugs now.

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May 16, 2014, 09:36:38 PM
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I looked at the tor listings recently, and the drug markets appear to be flourishing.
There is a dozen now, SR2.0 is apparently the biggest, but there are 3-4 with a close
volume. What is more, several of them offer multisig escrow, so the market cannot steal
the funds.  That seems really cool.

 I don't know whether any implements hedging against price fluctuations,
like SR did. Anyone knows?

Do they all use Bitcoin? I would think that there are better options than that now. Bitcoin is too "under the microscope" to be useful for drugs now.

what other cryptocurrency is actually being used these days though? almost all of them are purely speculation. i guess it could work if you start using it though.. what coin though, maybe doge?
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May 16, 2014, 10:46:15 PM
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I looked at the tor listings recently, and the drug markets appear to be flourishing.
There is a dozen now, SR2.0 is apparently the biggest, but there are 3-4 with a close
volume. What is more, several of them offer multisig escrow, so the market cannot steal
the funds.  That seems really cool.

 I don't know whether any implements hedging against price fluctuations,
like SR did. Anyone knows?

Do they all use Bitcoin? I would think that there are better options than that now. Bitcoin is too "under the microscope" to be useful for drugs now.

what other cryptocurrency is actually being used these days though? almost all of them are purely speculation. i guess it could work if you start using it though.. what coin though, maybe doge?

Make a special altcoin for drugs and make the features support anonymity right out of the gate. Call it Amazope payments. lol

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May 16, 2014, 11:39:12 PM
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I looked at the tor listings recently, and the drug markets appear to be flourishing.
There is a dozen now, SR2.0 is apparently the biggest, but there are 3-4 with a close
volume. What is more, several of them offer multisig escrow, so the market cannot steal
the funds.  That seems really cool.

 I don't know whether any implements hedging against price fluctuations,
like SR did. Anyone knows?

Do they all use Bitcoin? I would think that there are better options than that now. Bitcoin is too "under the microscope" to be useful for drugs now.

what other cryptocurrency is actually being used these days though? almost all of them are purely speculation. i guess it could work if you start using it though.. what coin though, maybe doge?

Make a special altcoin for drugs and make the features support anonymity right out of the gate. Call it Amazope payments. lol

that might work, if there are any features that a site like SR could use. but then they'd have to get a marketplace to accept their currency, and since those coins won't be easy to purchase/access, it probably wouldn't work out so well. there are currently way, way more ways to get bitcoin now than say dogecoin.
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May 17, 2014, 07:08:18 AM
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I looked at the tor listings recently, and the drug markets appear to be flourishing.
There is a dozen now, SR2.0 is apparently the biggest, but there are 3-4 with a close
volume. What is more, several of them offer multisig escrow, so the market cannot steal
the funds.  That seems really cool.

 I don't know whether any implements hedging against price fluctuations,
like SR did. Anyone knows?

Do they all use Bitcoin? I would think that there are better options than that now. Bitcoin is too "under the microscope" to be useful for drugs now.

what other cryptocurrency is actually being used these days though? almost all of them are purely speculation. i guess it could work if you start using it though.. what coin though, maybe doge?

Make a special altcoin for drugs and make the features support anonymity right out of the gate. Call it Amazope payments. lol

that might work, if there are any features that a site like SR could use. but then they'd have to get a marketplace to accept their currency, and since those coins won't be easy to purchase/access, it probably wouldn't work out so well. there are currently way, way more ways to get bitcoin now than say dogecoin.

That's true but the old SR used Bitcoin long before it became popular. The only way to get it would be to mine or go to Gox. They may struggle for a while but in the end it would be worth it for a truly anonymous method of payment designed for their use.

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May 17, 2014, 10:51:59 PM
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Many people underestimate the power of ideas. Watch V for Vendetta.

There's something intrinsically attractive in being at the leading edge of the only truly free market in the world. Not to mention the chill of the risk. A lot of money through honest business might be preferrable to "even more money for material gain".

Then again, the claimed hack and subsequent repayment of the allegedly stolen funds could also be part of a clever IC plan to pull off the biggest heist in Bitcoin history yet, outdoing MTGox.


QuestionAuthority, the funny thing is that a crypto specialist would assume that darknet markets are run by "law enforcement (under threat of force)", but would conclude that this is irrelevant so long as the seller is honest. The most concerning possible threat is sophisticated heuristic blockchain analysis, you are right, but nonetheless a crypto-currency without a multi-petahash rate to back it can easily be 51% attacked by governments; and your idea has already been attempted (PotCoin, DopeCoin, probably several others). Dark Wallet and other such innovations (and multisig / decentralized escrow) will be the future of the darknet markets.

FACT: There were hundreds of thousands of unnecessary deaths by December 2020 due to the censorship of all effective treatments (most notably ivermectin) in order to obtain EUA for experimental GT spike protein injections despite spike bioweaponization patents going back about a decade, and the manufacturers have 100% legal immunity despite long criminal histories.
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May 17, 2014, 11:14:40 PM
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Many people underestimate the power of ideas. Watch V for Vendetta.

There's something intrinsically attractive in being at the leading edge of the only truly free market in the world. Not to mention the chill of the risk. A lot of money through honest business might be preferrable to "even more money for material gain".

Then again, the claimed hack and subsequent repayment of the allegedly stolen funds could also be part of a clever IC plan to pull off the biggest heist in Bitcoin history yet, outdoing MTGox.


QuestionAuthority, the funny thing is that a crypto specialist would assume that darknet markets are run by "law enforcement (under threat of force)", but would conclude that this is irrelevant so long as the seller is honest. The most concerning possible threat is sophisticated heuristic blockchain analysis, you are right, but nonetheless a crypto-currency without a multi-petahash rate to back it can easily be 51% attacked by governments; and your idea has already been attempted (PotCoin, DopeCoin, probably several others). Dark Wallet and other such innovations (and multisig / decentralized escrow) will be the future of the darknet markets.


Interesting, I didn't know there already were coins for that. I don't really follow the trends in altcoins. Dark-wallet shows a lot of promise.

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May 19, 2014, 01:48:47 AM
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Actually the admins of the SR 2.0 have proved themselves to be a honest and trustworthy bunch. Even after a hacker stole thousands of BTC from their wallet, the admins refunded the users with their own money. Their actions were quite a revelation, at a time when the entire Bitcoin sector is flooded with con artists and crooks.

that's what i heard. and SR 2.0 is actually, in some ways, bigger than the old SR.. kind of a funny fact to me. the drug peddlers are actually the honest bunch.

I will agree with you there. The drug peddlers are much more honest and trustworthy, when compared to the bankers and politicians. Definitely not all of them, but a large majority.
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