John (John K.)
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February 06, 2012, 04:58:51 PM |
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This is why I stay put and never lend people more then they've repaid in a single time. Works every time and I've not got scammed (yet!)
That does lead to a chicken and egg problem though for new borrowers. Peter, That is. However, given the amount of btc scammed in the past few months, I personally wouldn't lend any amount of money without any collateral, either in rep or something for it.
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DeLorean
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February 06, 2012, 05:05:07 PM Last edit: February 06, 2012, 05:46:59 PM by DeLorean |
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Do either of you know any real life information about gurg2.0? He skipped out on 130 BTC in loans and we are trying to track him down by any means. He lists both of you in his signature as someone who he traded with in order to build his rep. Any information would be appreciated. Entire thread is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=61018.0This is not the first PM I've received regarding gurg2.0 so I'm going to respond publicly since I'm listed in his signature as a reference. He bought Magic: The Gathering cards from me, and paid up front. The problem is that this was a 0.15 BTC transaction, as I told the previous people who PM'd me about gurg2.0. Can a 0.15 BTC transaction really warrant a a reference? I do have his address (assuming the address he gave me was correct, he never confirmed that he received the cards) but I don't plan on giving it out publicly. If the people who have been stiffed want to PM me, I'd be happy to give the information he gave me. In my opinion, it's very possible he accrued a handful of tiny transactions in order to get just enough trust required to get your BTC and run.
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Tomatocage
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brb keeping up with the Kardashians
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February 06, 2012, 05:31:35 PM |
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Just got out of class on my way to gym (on my phone) will send repayment when I get home. Cheers
No you won't Wanna bet on it? I got 5 bitcoins that says he will.. If you or anyone else is game, let me know and I'll set up an adderss real quick for it. I can't believe I missed your post til just now. But sure, I'd LOVE to bet on it. You still game?
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farfiman
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February 06, 2012, 05:37:14 PM Last edit: February 06, 2012, 06:08:38 PM by farfiman |
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Maybe we guys that loaned him should join in the bet..we will win back at least part of the debt.. or worst case get back what is owed with 5btc less...
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"We are just fools. We insanely believe that we can replace one politician with another and something will really change. The ONLY possible way to achieve change is to change the very system of how government functions. Until we are prepared to do that, suck it up for your future belongs to the madness and corruption of politicians." Martin Armstrong
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FreeMoney
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February 06, 2012, 05:47:33 PM |
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Burt PM'd to let me know about this since I'm in his sig. This is what I wrote to Burt:
Ugh, sorry to hear. The only trade we did was very simple. I needed a craigslist ad posted and it wasn't letting me use my phone to verify because it was a prepay phone. Somehow when he did it for me he didn't even need a phone (different IP or area or random I don't know). He said he felt bad taking my money for such an easy job and that'd he'd do another if I needed it.
Only one person, slider1978, asked if he was trustworthy and I replied "It went fine, but it was just a very simple job, no trust required."
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Play Bitcoin Poker at sealswithclubs.eu. We're active and open to everyone.
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farfiman
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February 06, 2012, 06:12:45 PM |
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so his 2 dealings in the sig were a 0.15 btc purchase and a favor ...
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"We are just fools. We insanely believe that we can replace one politician with another and something will really change. The ONLY possible way to achieve change is to change the very system of how government functions. Until we are prepared to do that, suck it up for your future belongs to the madness and corruption of politicians." Martin Armstrong
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John (John K.)
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February 06, 2012, 06:13:52 PM |
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so his 2 dealings in the sig were a 0.15 btc purchase and a favor ...
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DeLorean
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February 06, 2012, 06:17:39 PM |
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so his 2 dealings in the sig were a 0.15 btc purchase and a favor ...
Yup, and I cautioned whoever it was that PM'd me about this before the loan was given.
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slider1978
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February 06, 2012, 07:52:51 PM |
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I can verify that I contacted both guys he had in his sig and received the info they said they gave. He didn't have a substantial previous history which is why I only lent 10 BTC.
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Maged
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February 07, 2012, 12:39:38 AM |
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Oh shit! This is worse than I thought. I wasn't going to release the results of the IP check, but what we found was troubling: gurg2.o is kujoking7. westcoastconnect is also the same person.
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PatrickHarnett
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February 07, 2012, 12:50:55 AM |
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Thanks Maged. I have loans (bad ones) to all three. I have some rather unhelpful thoughts directed to this person.
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ineededausername
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February 07, 2012, 12:52:34 AM |
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holy shit what a conspiracy...
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(BFL)^2 < 0
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ineededausername
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February 07, 2012, 01:10:42 AM |
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Just got out of class on my way to gym (on my phone) will send repayment when I get home. Cheers
Seems like when someone says "when I get home," they're a scammer
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Maged
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February 07, 2012, 01:15:12 AM |
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Be on your toes, people. There are other accounts potentially used by this guy, but we don't have enough information to verify this. If you send me potential evidence that someone else is linked to this guy (even basic circumstantial evidence), I can confirm whether or not they are this guy.
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ineededausername
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February 07, 2012, 01:18:18 AM |
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Be on your toes, people. There are other accounts potentially used by this guy, but we don't have enough information to verify this. If you send me potential evidence that someone else is linked to this guy (even basic circumstantial evidence), I can confirm whether or not they are this guy.
Are you not allowed to perform a query for all accounts with that IP?
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PatrickHarnett
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February 07, 2012, 01:33:47 AM |
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I queried two other accounts, but insufficient evidence to have any more information released at this stage.
PunkAs SirChiko
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Maged
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February 07, 2012, 01:48:35 AM |
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Be on your toes, people. There are other accounts potentially used by this guy, but we don't have enough information to verify this. If you send me potential evidence that someone else is linked to this guy (even basic circumstantial evidence), I can confirm whether or not they are this guy.
Are you not allowed to perform a query for all accounts with that IP? We can. However, we cannot assume that they are the same person without some kind of evidence. Hence the warning.
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Maged
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February 07, 2012, 01:51:24 AM |
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I queried two other accounts, but insufficient evidence to have any more information released at this stage.
Please don't post stuff like that publicly without some kind of evidence. I have no reason to believe those accounts are connected to this guy.
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PatrickHarnett
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February 07, 2012, 01:58:06 AM |
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I queried two other accounts, but insufficient evidence to have any more information released at this stage.
Please don't post stuff like that publicly without some kind of evidence. I have no reason to believe those accounts are connected to this guy. To clarify, I do not think those two accounts are linked to the Gurg2.o KuJoking7 or westcoastconnect. I do, however, have concerns about the credit-worthiness of these two users given other information and observations.
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DeLorean
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February 07, 2012, 04:46:44 AM |
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Really makes me wonder if he gave me the right address.
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