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May 17, 2014, 04:00:38 PM |
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Basically he says USD is better because with USD you're losing your purchasing power at a predictable rate. Lol.
What a fucking joke. What a fucking moron.
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May 17, 2014, 04:01:15 PM |
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Basically he says USD is better because with USD your losing your purchasing power at a predictable rate.
What a fucking joke. What a fucking moron.
Hahaha, he's a salesman trying to sell garbage. He's probably very good at it too!
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May 17, 2014, 04:07:11 PM |
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small potato!?BTC is the biggest potato plant ever created, and our "huge potatoes" will grow up to crush the Fed. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) I don't want to lose wealth at a predictable rate, no thanks.
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May 17, 2014, 04:09:23 PM |
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He also explains the federal reserve is not to be blamed for printing money in excess, a local bank in your street is responsible for this.
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May 17, 2014, 04:18:06 PM |
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He also explains the federal reserve is not to be blamed for printing money in excess, a local bank in your street is responsible for this.
He is lying because the big beneficiaries of the Fed are foreign banks."It’s the risk-free banking version of the hot money. And the $2.6 trillion in excess reserves that economists are expecting to flow into the US economy sooner or later to really stir things up? Half of it is that hot money." Ah, the Fed has an excuse for that too: it’s of course – “an additional tool for the conduct of monetary policy."
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May 17, 2014, 04:28:30 PM |
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He also explains the federal reserve is not to be blamed for printing money in excess, a local bank in your street is responsible for this.
He is lying because the big beneficiaries of the Fed are foreign banks."It’s the risk-free banking version of the hot money. And the $2.6 trillion in excess reserves that economists are expecting to flow into the US economy sooner or later to really stir things up? Half of it is that hot money." Ah, the Fed has an excuse for that too: it’s of course – “an additional tool for the conduct of monetary policy." From where that 2.6$ trillion godzilla money will flow into US?
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May 17, 2014, 04:30:01 PM |
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He also explains the federal reserve is not to be blamed for printing money in excess, a local bank in your street is responsible for this.
He is lying because the big beneficiaries of the Fed are foreign banks."It’s the risk-free banking version of the hot money. And the $2.6 trillion in excess reserves that economists are expecting to flow into the US economy sooner or later to really stir things up? Half of it is that hot money." Ah, the Fed has an excuse for that too: it’s of course – “an additional tool for the conduct of monetary policy." From where that 2.6$ trillion godzilla money will flow into US? From the excess reserves on deposit at the Fed.
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May 17, 2014, 05:26:09 PM |
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bitcoin is small fry. but so is gold. hense why they couldnt continue to back the dollar with gold...
but lets put some context to how small bitcoin is at the moment, by using golds statistics
1 ounce of gold=$1292 1 tonne of gold= $45,574,008(35274 ounces) 171,000 tonnes of gold in the world = $7,793,155,368,000
gold has a $7.79 trillion cap and that is not good enough for the Fed.. bitcoin is $6bill = under 0.1% of gold's cap
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May 17, 2014, 05:30:01 PM |
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Have you ever been hit with a potato gun?
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May 17, 2014, 07:04:42 PM |
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BS! Bitcoins is safe ,it's been around for years now and nothing will change my mind about it and even if it went down i'll go down with it
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May 17, 2014, 07:06:19 PM |
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He fails to explain that Bitcoin is a "bottom-up" solution and not a "top-down" solution. As bitcoin adoption expands the volatility in purchasing power (not necessarily price) will dampen. Purchasing power volatility is a small price to pay for being an early adopter of sound, honest money.
He also avoids the issue of how the new money is distributed when the money supply is expanded. Distributing the new money to the existing holders of the currency in proportion to their current holdings would be the fair and honest thing to do. This would allow for purchasing power stability that he claims is so important. Instead, large amounts of the new money are given to the bankers or handed over to the politicians and their cronies. These lowlifes are now able to buy the products and services that the productive members of society should be able to buy at lower prices.
Just a pathetic salesman trying to defend his racket.
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May 17, 2014, 09:33:48 PM Last edit: May 17, 2014, 10:23:16 PM by odolvlobo |
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Well, I disagree with most of you. This guy seems very knowledgeable about Bitcoin compared to most economists, and he seems pro-Bitcoin, even with what he considers to be its shortcomings. He said: - Bitcoin is a stroke of genius.
- It is small potatoes ... but the exciting thing is its potential for growth.
- Mt. Gox's failure is not a failure of Bitcoin.
- Bitcoin will force traditional institutions to adapt or die.
He brings up some good points: 1. Transactions are slow because of the requirement for decentralized consensus. 2. Fixed supply restricts management of the economy. (which to me may be one of its best features). 3. The value is volatile. I don't think any of these issues are critical or insurmountable but they remain issues, and there is no reason not to bring them up. If you want to see the entire presentation, go here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNcsPXirK8o&list=PLKcwEC4jDwiPtDy8pGoO8M1hYpBsBeT9w
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May 17, 2014, 09:46:37 PM |
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Basically he says USD is better because with USD you're losing your purchasing power at a predictable rate. Lol.
What a fucking joke. What a fucking moron.
But that IS the primary benefit of USD. Stability is the single most desirable attribute for a currency to have.
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May 17, 2014, 09:50:46 PM |
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bitcoin is small fry. but so is gold. hense why they couldnt continue to back the dollar with gold...
but lets put some context to how small bitcoin is at the moment, by using golds statistics
1 ounce of gold=$1292 1 tonne of gold= $45,574,008(35274 ounces) 171,000 tonnes of gold in the world = $7,793,155,368,000
gold has a $7.79 trillion cap and that is not good enough for the Fed.. bitcoin is $6bill = under 0.1% of gold's cap
We need Bitcoin's price to get to $371102.64/BTC to beat Au current marketcap - easy! ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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May 17, 2014, 09:55:56 PM |
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what a problem ... btc win : 21,000,000.000m000µ more number than gold. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic-mb.minutebuzz.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F04%2Fwin.gif&t=665&c=CULSzmca4KazPg)
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May 17, 2014, 10:14:48 PM |
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Basically he says USD is better because with USD you're losing your purchasing power at a predictable rate. Lol.
What a fucking joke. What a fucking moron.
But that IS the primary benefit of USD. Stability is the single most desirable attribute for a currency to have. If BTC had a user base that was the same size as the USD's then the purchasing power would be a lot more stable. Stability will come with time as adoption grows. That doesn't happen overnight. It will take time. Those who want stable (but steadily rising) purchasing power will just have to be patient.
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May 17, 2014, 11:40:50 PM |
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Sounds familiar. Consider the following: With each passing day, the supply of fiat increases, while the supply of Bitcoin decreases. Now class, who can tell me how scarcity affects the value of a freely-traded commodity? This game only has one possible outcome. You will join us now, or you will find yourself working for us - for Bitcoin - one day soon. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fsilverunderground.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F01%2F3-value-of-the-dollar.jpg&t=665&c=W6TGY0YEhwMVpQ) ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FI8AIyEX.png&t=665&c=HR-O-d6ouYGwiQ) Resistance is futile.
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May 17, 2014, 11:45:16 PM |
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Pretty expected as far as what he says. Its not like the fed is going to come out and endorse BTC and point out the ways it is better than USD
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May 17, 2014, 11:46:47 PM |
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Pretty expected as far as what he says. Its not like the fed is going to come out and endorse BTC and point out the ways it is better than USD Yep. Nation-state fiat banking is a religion, economics is the pseudo-science which supports it. This would be roughly tantamount to McCarthy endorsing Communists in the fifties.
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