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September 26, 2014, 02:53:52 AM
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If you are looking for more of a liberal place, check out northern Europe.


I would love to try this, but it seems you need a bachelor's to immigrate anywhere.
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September 26, 2014, 03:04:19 AM
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A slave is a person which is simultaneously property.  To all those that believe having a "shitty job" is slavery, may I ask you to identify the corresponding master/owner?
Its usually someone running a business, the usual suspect. If you are a wageslave you are fucked... not much margin of action. If you are not part of the initial distribution of the pie and your family didnt got a nice slice of the pie, then you'll need something special. Most people aren't and its difficult to break the wageslave loophole.

Hmm...  What happens if a "wageslave" is fired?  Are they then free?

This is discipline for disobeying.

Now they have to suffer, probably lose their apartment, rely on other people which stresses relationships, experience self-esteem loss from being temporarily (or permanently, in some lines of work) unable to provide for one's self, possibly go hungry/be subjected to a demeaning food-stamp program (not every city has soup kitchens, or well stocked food pantries, and not everybody lives in a city), all while having to go around filling out job applications and present their best self for job interview after job interview, selling yourself to a new master.
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September 26, 2014, 09:48:13 AM
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A slave is a person which is simultaneously property.  To all those that believe having a "shitty job" is slavery, may I ask you to identify the corresponding master/owner?
Its usually someone running a business, the usual suspect. If you are a wageslave you are fucked... not much margin of action. If you are not part of the initial distribution of the pie and your family didnt got a nice slice of the pie, then you'll need something special. Most people aren't and its difficult to break the wageslave loophole.

Hmm...  What happens if a "wageslave" is fired?  Are they then free?

This is discipline for disobeying.

Now they have to suffer, probably lose their apartment, rely on other people which stresses relationships, experience self-esteem loss from being temporarily (or permanently, in some lines of work) unable to provide for one's self, possibly go hungry/be subjected to a demeaning food-stamp program (not every city has soup kitchens, or well stocked food pantries, and not everybody lives in a city), all while having to go around filling out job applications and present their best self for job interview after job interview, selling yourself to a new master.

So, a master can punish a slave by setting them free.  The free person will then want to find any new master that will have them.

Not sure the "slave" analogy is the right one to be honest.
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September 26, 2014, 11:56:26 AM
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A slave is a person which is simultaneously property.  To all those that believe having a "shitty job" is slavery, may I ask you to identify the corresponding master/owner?
Its usually someone running a business, the usual suspect. If you are a wageslave you are fucked... not much margin of action. If you are not part of the initial distribution of the pie and your family didnt got a nice slice of the pie, then you'll need something special. Most people aren't and its difficult to break the wageslave loophole.

Hmm...  What happens if a "wageslave" is fired?  Are they then free?

This is discipline for disobeying.

Now they have to suffer, probably lose their apartment, rely on other people which stresses relationships, experience self-esteem loss from being temporarily (or permanently, in some lines of work) unable to provide for one's self, possibly go hungry/be subjected to a demeaning food-stamp program (not every city has soup kitchens, or well stocked food pantries, and not everybody lives in a city), all while having to go around filling out job applications and present their best self for job interview after job interview, selling yourself to a new master.

So, a master can punish a slave by setting them free.  The free person will then want to find any new master that will have them.

Not sure the "slave" analogy is the right one to be honest.

Setting them free would be promoting them to a liveable wage.

Which would permit them to save up some cash, which in turn makes it possible for them to advance their education, move to a different country if they choose, or just save up enough to live on for a while and leave.

But that's not profitable. Master would have to "train" somebody new.

If your employees feel like slaves there's nothing you can do to change that except pay more and improve the working environment/hours. Also they won't tell you if that's the case, they want you to free them.

If you're a small business owner odds are you pay your people well though, unless your just starting and struggling to become profitable, in which case you're out there pulling your weight with them.

I can think of one decent paying position that doesn't require a bachelors. Mailman. But competition is fierce for a job with the USPS.
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September 26, 2014, 03:53:35 PM
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A slave is a person which is simultaneously property.  To all those that believe having a "shitty job" is slavery, may I ask you to identify the corresponding master/owner?
Its usually someone running a business, the usual suspect. If you are a wageslave you are fucked... not much margin of action. If you are not part of the initial distribution of the pie and your family didnt got a nice slice of the pie, then you'll need something special. Most people aren't and its difficult to break the wageslave loophole.

Hmm...  What happens if a "wageslave" is fired?  Are they then free?

This is discipline for disobeying.

Now they have to suffer, probably lose their apartment, rely on other people which stresses relationships, experience self-esteem loss from being temporarily (or permanently, in some lines of work) unable to provide for one's self, possibly go hungry/be subjected to a demeaning food-stamp program (not every city has soup kitchens, or well stocked food pantries, and not everybody lives in a city), all while having to go around filling out job applications and present their best self for job interview after job interview, selling yourself to a new master.

So, a master can punish a slave by setting them free.  The free person will then want to find any new master that will have them.

Not sure the "slave" analogy is the right one to be honest.

Setting them free would be promoting them to a liveable wage.

Which would permit them to save up some cash, which in turn makes it possible for them to advance their education, move to a different country if they choose, or just save up enough to live on for a while and leave.

But that's not profitable. Master would have to "train" somebody new.

If your employees feel like slaves there's nothing you can do to change that except pay more and improve the working environment/hours. Also they won't tell you if that's the case, they want you to free them.

If you're a small business owner odds are you pay your people well though, unless your just starting and struggling to become profitable, in which case you're out there pulling your weight with them.

I can think of one decent paying position that doesn't require a bachelors. Mailman. But competition is fierce for a job with the USPS.

Haha, I actually just applied to be a mailman..  Grin


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September 27, 2014, 04:50:01 AM
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Setting them free would be promoting them to a liveable wage.

Which would permit them to save up some cash, which in turn makes it possible for them to advance their education, move to a different country if they choose, or just save up enough to live on for a while and leave.

But that's not profitable. Master would have to "train" somebody new.

If your employees feel like slaves there's nothing you can do to change that except pay more and improve the working environment/hours. Also they won't tell you if that's the case, they want you to free them.

If you're a small business owner odds are you pay your people well though, unless your just starting and struggling to become profitable, in which case you're out there pulling your weight with them.

I can think of one decent paying position that doesn't require a bachelors. Mailman. But competition is fierce for a job with the USPS.

With almost everyone completing a bachelor's education, employers are free to set the bar high. Most positions wouldn't really require a college education, but since there are so many graduates around, employers can be choosy and hire somebody with a bachelor's degree.


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October 01, 2014, 03:21:03 PM
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Thats how the world goes right now.
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October 27, 2014, 11:01:05 PM
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Because the rich dude got money to walk in front of you by 2 steps or more so I don't know man. Unless your mom and dad mutate your gene or someshit then you're one lucky mofo.
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October 30, 2014, 01:41:09 AM
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Thats how the world goes right now.

Agree. Rich becomes richer, poor becomes poorer.
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October 30, 2014, 06:45:59 AM
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Great men's sons seldom do well. With our btc, I'm pretty sure that the next half of our lives will be better.

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October 30, 2014, 09:23:15 AM
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So who's to blame? The rich or the poor?
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October 30, 2014, 03:14:16 PM
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That is how life goes in a city. You have no money, you work, you use your money and then youll have no money again.

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October 30, 2014, 05:18:47 PM
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Thats how the world goes right now.
Agree. Rich becomes richer, poor becomes poorer.

So who's to blame? The rich or the poor?

Wealth is relative.
You are not rich of poor. You are poor compared to someone and rich compared to someone else.

Getting poor make the others richer. Getting rich make the others poorer.
To have everyone on the same level, you must force everyone to be very poor and take everything just for you, this is called Communism.
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October 31, 2014, 08:43:43 PM
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Available here in eBook --> http://www.richdad.com/ebooks.aspx

I enjoy his books, and he explains a lot, in lame men's terms.


*layman's terms
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November 01, 2014, 04:22:23 AM
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That is how life goes in a city. You have no money, you work, you use your money and then youll have no money again.

That is true.. But you have to be working your butt in order to live.
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