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April 21, 2011, 05:49:30 PM
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We sell everything you need to get started mining Bitcoins at the lowest price of comparable systems on the market. Free shipping within the continental United States.

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The people have spoken. Consider this a preview. We will 'relaunch' soon with more economical systems and an option to buy with Bitcoins.
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April 21, 2011, 05:54:20 PM
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Really? lowest price on the market my a**

don't use false advertisement please, makes you look bad. Also, why don't you use 5970s instead?

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April 21, 2011, 05:55:40 PM
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Really? lowest price on the market my a**

don't use false advertisement please, makes you look bad. Also, why don't you use 5970s instead?

please link lower prices.

also we dont use 5970's because 1. they are hard to find other then used on ebay and 2. the 6990 can be overclocked to get higher hash rates if the user is so inclined
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April 21, 2011, 06:02:44 PM
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please link lower prices.

bitcoinrigs.com's "Professional Rig": $1 more expensive than your cheapest model (which seems equivalent - both use one 6990).

However... their cheapest model is only $899.

Took me twenty seconds in Google. I used "mining rig site:bitcoin.org" to search, and clicked on the first link.

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April 21, 2011, 06:08:02 PM
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please link lower prices.

bitcoinrigs.com's "Professional Rig": $1 more expensive than your cheapest model (which seems equivalent - both use one 6990).

However... their cheapest model is only $899.

Took me twenty seconds in Google. I used "mining rig site:bitcoin.org" to search, and clicked on the first link.

We don't offer the lower end systems that he does AND our systems are cheaper then his equivalent ones because we offer free shipping. Seriously folks, why the hostile attitude?
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April 21, 2011, 06:09:33 PM
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Seriously folks, why the hostile attitude?
Allergic reactions to a misleading claim? That's certainly true in my case. I'm sure you provide a lovely service - it'd be even better if your marketing was accurate.

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April 21, 2011, 06:13:07 PM
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Seriously folks, why the hostile attitude?
Allergic reactions to a misleading claim? That's certainly true in my case. I'm sure you provide a lovely service - it'd be even better if your marketing was accurate.

you can mine bitcoins on a $300 walmart special computer if you wanted to but you wouldnt get much out of it. Find a system for sale that has the performance of my systems for cheaper.
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April 21, 2011, 06:14:54 PM
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We sell everything you need to get started mining Bitcoins at the lowest price on the market. Free shipping within the continental United States.
Why there is no description of rig's internals ? No data on MB, CPU, etc...

And it looks insanely expensive. Why would anyone use such case ?
Miner's profit is better when rig is as cheap as possible.

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April 21, 2011, 06:16:18 PM
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you can mine bitcoins on a $300 walmart special computer if you wanted to but you wouldnt get much out of it. Find a system for sale that has the performance of my systems for cheaper.
Fine. Then say that. Don't say...
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April 21, 2011, 06:18:59 PM
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go to ibuypower.com for example... choose the custom parts and you will see that it is probably less expensive. Any other similar sites should show less expensive parts.

Hell, I could do it much cheaper to ANYONE. I would even consider accepting bitcoins

I could do a 1x 6990 for 1200$ (or 1x5970 for 900$) and a 2x 6990 for 1985$ (or 2x 5970 for 1410$)

Yes, this includes a CoolerMaster HAF X. Shave off 150$ to get a lower end case

That means 750$ for a 600 Mh/s (I'll OC it to reach 625~660Mh/s)

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April 21, 2011, 06:22:12 PM
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Specs other than GPU would certainly help justify the price.  The base system seems far too highly marked up.  The price increase between the single system and the dual system is a bit more reasonable ($900 higher than base system for a $720 GPU and a bigger power supply (1200 watt?)).

But $1,800 for 600 mHash/sec?  I just built a 740 mHash/sec rig for only $900!

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April 21, 2011, 06:25:05 PM
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LFGTFY - I edited it to say "of comparable systems". Does that sufficiently address the issue?

nster - I'm providing a service to to people that don't know how or don't want to build their own machines. You simply have to plug it in and you're good to go. You could buy the parts to build a car cheaper then buying the premade car, does that make TOYOTA a sleezy company?
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LFGTFY - I edited it to say "of comparable systems". Does that sufficiently address the issue?

nster - I'm providing a service to to people that don't know how or don't want to build their own machines. You simply have to plug it in and you're good to go. You could buy the parts to build a car cheaper then buying the premade car, does that make TOYOTA a sleezy company?

I'm saying I may be even ready to do it as well (ie: I build it, take a fee, and ship it ready to be used)

but a 130% markup, or 1000$ for the lowest end model is huge... if you factor in the case, its still an 850$ mark up and still over 110% more (ie: more than double the price)

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April 21, 2011, 06:28:31 PM
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LFGTFY - I edited it to say "of comparable systems". Does that sufficiently address the issue?
It does, thank you.

Presentation is key when marketing something - if you appear less than honest it adversely affects the image of the product or service you're selling. It really pays to know your market and be aware of your competitors' offerings, but equally appearing to trash your competitors is less than ideal. Let your pricing and goods/services speak for themselves.

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April 21, 2011, 06:30:22 PM
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Seriously people, how is my service any different then bitcoin rigs except that its cheaper because I offer free shipping? Why is everyone hell bent on sinking my ship before it sets sail instead of offering constructive advice to a member of the community?

And the plan is to accept bitcoins as payment as well. we should roll that out in a few days if this hostility doesn't kill the service first.
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April 21, 2011, 06:34:10 PM
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Seriously people, how is my service any different then bitcoin rigs except that its cheaper because I offer free shipping? Why is everyone hell bent on sinking my ship before it sets sail instead of offering constructive advice to a member of the community?
And the plan is to accept bitcoins as payment as well. we should roll that out in a few days if this hostility doesn't kill the service first.
I would recommend listing full specs of those rigs.

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April 21, 2011, 06:34:54 PM
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LFGTFY - I edited it to say "of comparable systems". Does that sufficiently address the issue?

nster - I'm providing a service to to people that don't know how or don't want to build their own machines. You simply have to plug it in and you're good to go. You could buy the parts to build a car cheaper then buying the premade car, does that make TOYOTA a sleezy company?

I'm saying I may be even ready to do it as well (ie: I build it, take a fee, and ship it ready to be used)

but a 130% markup, or 1000$ for the lowest end model is huge... if you factor in the case, its still an 850$ mark up and still over 110% more (ie: more than double the price)

I assure you our systems cost more then that to build. our markup is closer to 30%, WELL below normal retail markup of 80-120%
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April 21, 2011, 06:37:38 PM
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Seriously people, how is my service any different then bitcoin rigs except that its cheaper because I offer free shipping? Why is everyone hell bent on sinking my ship before it sets sail instead of offering constructive advice to a member of the community?
And the plan is to accept bitcoins as payment as well. we should roll that out in a few days if this hostility doesn't kill the service first.
I would recommend listing full specs of those rigs.

thank you for the advice sir. I will get right on that.
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April 21, 2011, 06:41:11 PM
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LFGTFY - I edited it to say "of comparable systems". Does that sufficiently address the issue?

nster - I'm providing a service to to people that don't know how or don't want to build their own machines. You simply have to plug it in and you're good to go. You could buy the parts to build a car cheaper then buying the premade car, does that make TOYOTA a sleezy company?

I'm saying I may be even ready to do it as well (ie: I build it, take a fee, and ship it ready to be used)

but a 130% markup, or 1000$ for the lowest end model is huge... if you factor in the case, its still an 850$ mark up and still over 110% more (ie: more than double the price)

I assure you our systems cost more then that to build. our markup is closer to 30%, WELL below normal retail markup of 80-120%

in that case, show the system specs....

do realize that if you are selling computer that are meant for mining, and mining only (ie: no gaming) the best bang/buck are sempron+mobo combo at 80$. And no need of 1+TB HDDs etc. Else, advertise the as multi-functional rigs that do bitcoins as well (which is basically a gaming PC, which attracts a lot of market).

Also, doesn't a 6990 do more like 650Mh/s? and 2x = 1.3Gh/s?


Come on people! A merchant comes with an offer, you do not like the price you do not buy it. Better yet, offer a competing service which is better and cheaper. But attacking and badmouthing him over his price is just wrong.

You really think his prices are such a rip off  - go create a separate price comparison thread and help consumers to be better informed.


It isn't that I don't like his prices, I could care less, it is the advertising saying they are the lowest priced for comparable setups.

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April 21, 2011, 06:47:53 PM
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working on detailed system specs now. should be updated in a bit.
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