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May 26, 2014, 09:24:22 PM
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this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit.
ive had enough im out of this coin.

I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC.

5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board.

EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now?

His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none.

You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder?

No his actually identity and resume has been made public.

Can't find it anywhere...
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May 26, 2014, 09:26:06 PM
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24 hash?

Edit: If it's them thats the case, they paid me out. So I have to argue there. I do see however some were not paid out, according to them. I don't know. I see a lot of crap around on all coins. I have to look into all the full details. I have yet to find a pool that has not responded to me accordingly when something has gone wrong.

24 hash never paid out the 11k XLBs I mined there before I switched due to the non payouts.

Emails to the operator including to the address he gave in his later post saying he would sort all the payouts were never replied to and I've yet to see any coins from 24 Hash.

Someone dumped 300k of XLB on Mintpal 6 hours ago.



Something isn't right here... Was that 24 Hash cashing out?




Same here, check the bad rep I posted at 24hash profile here. And why not go to his profile and do the same if you did not receive coins ? - same question to all that lost coins, writing in this tread.
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May 26, 2014, 09:31:20 PM
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24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning.

Have you audited the blockchain? Where all the payments not made go?

If 24hash was a scam, how that proves that anyone in the dev team is involved? And that is quite a big "if" considering people is claiming that they got paid in numbers similar to those claiming the opposite.

Finally, the world of altos is filled with proven scams, why do you feel the need to denounce this one not even using your real handle? You understand your credibility is more than suspect because of it.

Is it The Black Hand?

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May 26, 2014, 09:31:28 PM
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this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit.
ive had enough im out of this coin.

I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC.

5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board.

EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now?

His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none.



You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder?

No his actually identity and resume has been made public.

Can't find it anywhere...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6913817#msg6913817
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May 26, 2014, 09:35:08 PM
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SELL YOU FOOLS, SELL!!!


I'm buying all I can  Grin

LOL I'm loving this, props for this guy who had the idea to create the FUD. Thanks again my friend!!!!!

Dump a bit more, I dont have the BTCs yet in the exchanges... these BTC confirmations take forever.... DUMP!

I view it as an attempt trying to reassure people the coin is okay, glad to see the're getting their Bitcoin back!  You can have your bag of copy paste coins.

I see the XLB thread is just alight with people "delighted" to get "cheap" coins but still no information on the coin itself.  False promises and pictures of guys dancing around, like I said their is only a 1% that will be winners.  Glad to see your losing your bitcoin!

That you morituri13? Really?

Well, so far, you are quite right about the lack of innovation in Libertycoin. It is exactly like that one.... yeah mean, cannot think of the name right now.... what was it...? ah yes, the one with the gorgeous logo,  Black coin. Exactly the same.
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May 26, 2014, 09:39:55 PM
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May 26, 2014, 09:44:54 PM
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24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning.

Have you audited the blockchain? Where all the payments not made go?

If 24hash was a scam, how that proves that anyone in the dev team is involved? And that is quite a big "if" considering people is claiming that they got paid in numbers similar to those claiming the opposite.

Finally, the world of altos is filled with proven scams, why do you feel the need to denounce this one not even using your real handle? You understand your credibility is more than suspect because of it.

Is it The Black Hand?



If they have nothing to hide, why did they delete all post in regards to it in the Official thread?  Libertycoin originally stated only stupid post would be deleted but Iconic went delete crazy deleting anything that had an opinion that he/they did not agree with, including Real issues!  Great way to lose original supports, it's like a kick in the teeth.

And then there is Troiste, Iconics right hand man and probably one of the worst human beings on the planet.  I can't understand how people trust that guy to run a million dollar market cap!  One of the most unprofessional people I have ever met,  Do you think offering escorts is a good way to promote Liberty to your family and friends on Liberty day?

Not sure why you think I am the Black hand I have stated that I was just a little guy who got screwed out of my Liberty coin.  That led me to researching and surprisingly most of it cannot be found in the official thread because it has been deleted.  

Lastly I have already received a ton of PM from XLB fan boys and brand new accounts, calling me every name under the sun.  I am sure half of them are probably Troiste but it would be a great way to ruin a Sr. Account. You can also say that maybe its not true but if you ask yourself the questions at the bottom of my original post, they have never been answered only called FUD and moved on.  That's why a few people at least dumped because they see it for what it is.  Some XLB are calling Liberty Bitcoin 3.0 and selling this image when its a clone of Hackcoin.  

Now please ask yourself these questions:

If the coin code is copy and paste, of badger/hack which is a copy paste of nova which is a copy paste of peercoin how will this coin succeed?
Why is the press releases and paper wallets copy and paste?
How can you claim it was a fair launch when it didn't even last 4 days? (Think bitcoin/litecoin/peercoin/darkcoin how long have they been mined)
Why did they delete everybody's post who had coins stolen from the multi-pool?
How is it legal to offer free escorts when it may be illegal in their jurisdiction?
What are you using to implement anonymous technology?  
Who is doing it for a 2 btc bounty when other coins couldn't find anybody to do it for under 50 btc?
Why does Iconicexpert have access to the dev account, since he is not a developer? (Most devs will simply let the community know who is the marketing direct, not give them access to their personal account)
Why is there no white paper, is it just fedoras mixer and an encrypted block chain?
what are the "unique properties" as  you state that Liberty coin has unique properties?
What new an exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems does it offer since you make that claim?
Why do you censor peoples liberty in the official thread?  (Taking away liberty from libertycoin)
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May 26, 2014, 09:48:31 PM
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shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false

And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false
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May 26, 2014, 09:52:10 PM
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SELL YOU FOOLS, SELL!!!


I'm buying all I can  Grin

LOL I'm loving this, props for this guy who had the idea to create the FUD. Thanks again my friend!!!!!

Dump a bit more, I dont have the BTCs yet in the exchanges... these BTC confirmations take forever.... DUMP!

I view it as an attempt trying to reassure people the coin is okay, glad to see the're getting their Bitcoin back!  You can have your bag of copy paste coins.

I see the XLB thread is just alight with people "delighted" to get "cheap" coins but still no information on the coin itself.  False promises and pictures of guys dancing around, like I said their is only a 1% that will be winners.  Glad to see your losing your bitcoin!

That you morituri13? Really?

Well, so far, you are quite right about the lack of innovation in Libertycoin. It is exactly like that one.... yeah mean, cannot think of the name right now.... what was it...? ah yes, the one with the gorgeous logo,  Black coin. Exactly the same.

Actually Blackcoin modified the Novacoin code where as Libertycoin simply changed the name in the Hackcoin code which was modified from the Novacoin code.
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May 26, 2014, 10:00:03 PM
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shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false

And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false

iconicfraudster, please address
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May 26, 2014, 10:03:18 PM
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shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false

And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false

iconicfraudster, please address

Sorry, I can only post so quick or I get an error.

I think you are confusing the original forum Multipool that was recommended to users in the POW phase with the new multipool.  My post referred to the first Multipool as multiple other users have also stated they didn't receive their coins.
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May 26, 2014, 10:07:51 PM
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shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false

And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false

iconicfraudster, please address

Sorry, I can only post so quick or I get an error.

I think you are confusing the original forum Multipool that was recommended to users in the POW phase with the new multipool.  My post referred to the first Multipool as multiple other users have also stated they didn't receive their coins.

I'm not confusing anything. The new multipool also happens to be the first multipool.
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May 26, 2014, 10:11:57 PM
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24hash.com didn't payed, people behind it are thief, stoled all coins, this coin was a scam from the beginning.

Have you audited the blockchain? Where all the payments not made go?

If 24hash was a scam, how that proves that anyone in the dev team is involved? And that is quite a big "if" considering people is claiming that they got paid in numbers similar to those claiming the opposite.

Finally, the world of altos is filled with proven scams, why do you feel the need to denounce this one not even using your real handle? You understand your credibility is more than suspect because of it.

Is it The Black Hand?



If they have nothing to hide, why did they delete all post in regards to it in the Official thread?  Libertycoin originally stated only stupid post would be deleted but Iconic went delete crazy deleting anything that had an opinion that he/they did not agree with, including Real issues!  Great way to lose original supports, it's like a kick in the teeth.

And then there is Troiste, Iconics right hand man and probably one of the worst human beings on the planet.  I can't understand how people trust that guy to run a million dollar market cap!  One of the most unprofessional people I have ever met,  Do you think offering escorts is a good way to promote Liberty to your family and friends on Liberty day?

Not sure why you think I am the Black hand I have stated that I was just a little guy who got screwed out of my Liberty coin.  That led me to researching and surprisingly most of it cannot be found in the official thread because it has been deleted.  

Lastly I have already received a ton of PM from XLB fan boys and brand new accounts, calling me every name under the sun.  I am sure half of them are probably Troiste but it would be a great way to ruin a Sr. Account. You can also say that maybe its not true but if you ask yourself the questions at the bottom of my original post, they have never been answered only called FUD and moved on.  That's why a few people at least dumped because they see it for what it is.  Some XLB are calling Liberty Bitcoin 3.0 and selling this image when its a clone of Hackcoin.  

Now please ask yourself these questions:

If the coin code is copy and paste, of badger/hack which is a copy paste of nova which is a copy paste of peercoin how will this coin succeed?
Why is the press releases and paper wallets copy and paste?
How can you claim it was a fair launch when it didn't even last 4 days? (Think bitcoin/litecoin/peercoin/darkcoin how long have they been mined)
Why did they delete everybody's post who had coins stolen from the multi-pool?
How is it legal to offer free escorts when it may be illegal in their jurisdiction?
What are you using to implement anonymous technology?  
Who is doing it for a 2 btc bounty when other coins couldn't find anybody to do it for under 50 btc?
Why does Iconicexpert have access to the dev account, since he is not a developer? (Most devs will simply let the community know who is the marketing direct, not give them access to their personal account)
Why is there no white paper, is it just fedoras mixer and an encrypted block chain?
what are the "unique properties" as  you state that Liberty coin has unique properties?
What new an exciting payment methods not covered by other payment systems does it offer since you make that claim?
Why do you censor peoples liberty in the official thread?  (Taking away liberty from libertycoin)

Just this once I will answer some of your questions NOT to the best of my ability, but enough to clear some air maybe. Just this one because I use my handle, the only one I have, while you are a sock puppet, just to make it clear.

Not only the code is copy paste, like the wallet (or close enough, anyway) but it is PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE that it is. Nobody has lied about that from the get go. Specifically Iconic posted clearly the reason why he was joining, the reasons: The name -I doubt you have the capacity to value what's in a name, but a lot is-, and the enormous market opportunity it presented. Not the code. Not the innovations. Just the name, basically. Then he created a very nice logo. And then he made a few promises. It is wayh too soon to believe or disbelieve those promises. A lot of people do.

Now, the most important thing is that you claim that, because you were scammed by 24 Hash, there was a conspiracy behind it. But you prove nothing of that short. That's absurd hearsay, or FUD as it were. If it is true and the devs were in cahoots with 24Hash, you will need to prove it, sorry.

You don't know who the dev is, but most people with half a brain does. I know his handle, his deeds -and there are many, of all kinds- and also his real name, nationality and geographical location. I had to investigate quite heavily to come up with the same referred to you "don" of BC and it's Black Hand. I have found no evidence whatsoever, so far, of any organized group acting in cahoots with the dev of Libertycoin. Furthermore, the biggest wallet in XLB has just about 400k coins... yes you have charged that it has been spread in hundreds of wallets, that's hard to believe and relatively easy to demonstrate soon enough in the future if the community so decides . In any case, just conjecture on your part.

All those questions have a single answer: Iconic Expert. He has taken the FULL responsibility for those things. No need to look anywhere else. If he doesn't deliver, his reputation will be ruined. Fair enough? As you and other reading this well know, I don't like the guy personally and find some of his ideas preposterous, dangerous and counter-productive. And I find Troiste probably the individual most lacking class under the stars, but, a) IE has a lot of ideas and some of them with a lot of merit... enough to propel BC to 95 and more than enough to have taken XLB to 20 in 10 days. Those are facts whether you like the guy or not. As for Troiste, by luck or whatever, he FOUND Libertycoin. To Caesar what is Caesar's. I deplore as much as anyone the hookers idea that I have termed "Soepkip pants of XLB" myself. What's true is true. End of that story.

So, to sum it up, unless you prove the 24 hash scam had anything to do with the devs of XLB, I am going to call that what it is: Bullshit.
ALL THE REST of your questions, have the same answer: Iconic Expert. For good, bad or in-between. Believe or do not believe, up to you. He IS Liberty coin. He has publicly assumed that responsibility.

Now, keep the FUD if you like, but there's nothing tangible on your side of the net. Sorry but, like everyone else, you will need to wait to be able to colled shit. Otherwise, just a handle and an individual that everyone knows who he is and where he lives.

I hope I have satisfactorily answered all your questions.

Edit to add: The charge about only 3.5 days initial PoW mining, what do you expect? only 16.5 million coins. When they run out, they run out. It depends on the hashing power thrown at it, you should know that...
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May 26, 2014, 10:15:38 PM
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shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false

And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false

iconicfraudster, please address

Sorry, I can only post so quick or I get an error.

I think you are confusing the original forum Multipool that was recommended to users in the POW phase with the new multipool.  My post referred to the first Multipool as multiple other users have also stated they didn't receive their coins.

I'm not confusing anything. The new multipool also happens to be the first multipool.

No the multipool you are refering to is  http://xlb.multipoolmining.com/
The official multipool used for POW mining was xlb.24hash.com
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May 26, 2014, 10:19:53 PM
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shogun40 set up the multipool out of his own money and he was just an average member of the community; your theory is false

And we're getting word now that the pool is paying out, so again: false

iconicfraudster, please address

Sorry, I can only post so quick or I get an error.

I think you are confusing the original forum Multipool that was recommended to users in the POW phase with the new multipool.  My post referred to the first Multipool as multiple other users have also stated they didn't receive their coins.

I'm not confusing anything. The new multipool also happens to be the first multipool.

No the multipool you are refering to is  http://xlb.multipoolmining.com/
The official multipool used for POW mining was xlb.24hash.com

Mining XLB during the POW phase is not a multipool. Multipools mine other coins and pay out in XLB.
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this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit.
ive had enough im out of this coin.

I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC.

5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board.

EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now?

His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none.



You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder?

No his actually identity and resume has been made public.

Can't find it anywhere...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6913817#msg6913817

Are you kidding me?

I am going to stop arguing for reduction of coins or a largely extended PoW period.  I feel that very solid arguments are on the table and the dev is capable of making his own decisions, of which I support no matter what.  I mean, seriously.  actsecure is Dan Metcalf -- hes a legendary C programmer, probably better than every dev of every alt coin combined.

That being said, while he may be an expert in coding.  I am a financial analyst with a degree in finance & economics.  He may know how to create a coin (and probably one better than anyone else), but I know how to read markets and perform coin valuations.

This is the proof you have that actsecure is identified and that he is a expert coder?

https://twitter.com/metcalfwriter

He did not mentioned any X11coin on his twitter and that this kind of statements are just bad for the actual dev behind X11coin but who cares aslong people are making money, right?
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May 26, 2014, 10:23:52 PM
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...
1. Start spreading FUD to make people doubt the dev.
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2. Start posting information about other coins in the thread to make people think there is a better option.
...

3. Post some major news about the coin being a scam and the dev is about to dump.
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4. Dump enough coins to make others think the dev is dumping to cause a chain reaction.
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5. Use multiple account and post they are selling.
...

Does this sound familiar?

Does this sound familiar?
lol i never saw better sumarry of your action in Blackcoin and whole shitstorm in may.

1. Start spreading FUD to make people doubt the dev.
- You started attacked openly whole BC dev team from Soepkip to rat4...
eg. Becouse rat4 hellped Cinni... (in reality he made 2 code lines...)

2. Start posting information about other coins in the thread to make people think there is a better option.
In your own BC thread you 1st bashed BC then actively promoted XBL...

3. Post some major news about the coin being a scam and the dev is about to dump.
Ohw yea your whole story about magic market manipulators (0 true evidence just "some PMs" rummors )
you attacked whole community for about 10days...

4. Dump enough coins to make others think the dev is dumping to cause a chain reaction.
Even on twiter you posted that you dumped BC for 10 days in main thread you climed to have 2m to dump and dumping...

5. Use multiple account and post they are selling.
Here i don't have 100% prove. But when points 1-4 suits to your action IconicExpert i believe that point 5 will be true too.


You just proved yourself that you act that way.(your market manipulator suits to you almost perfect)

I personally think that you don't have 90% of XBL supply but once you sell your shares bagholders will be fucked up and you will play same scenario like in BC at the end then swith to another pump coin.

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May 26, 2014, 10:27:49 PM
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He doesnt have 90% of the market....
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May 26, 2014, 10:50:25 PM
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this shitcoin launched with anon claims and cant deliver, look at that xc coin i wish i would have chosen that over this liberty shit.
ive had enough im out of this coin.

I won't lie I dumped everyone of my dirty filthy Libertycoins for XC.

5 minutes reading you can tell it's legit and has active development. Not a pump and dump like certain coins on this board.

EDIT: What did XCcoin DEV delivered beside pdf files that are not of his own research and a coinmixer that TIPS already have for 2 months now?

His identity that proves his experience unlike the XLB dev who has none.



You mean his bitcointalk.org username proves his identity and that he qualifies as a experienced coder?

No his actually identity and resume has been made public.

Can't find it anywhere...

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=600706.msg6913817#msg6913817

Are you kidding me?

I am going to stop arguing for reduction of coins or a largely extended PoW period.  I feel that very solid arguments are on the table and the dev is capable of making his own decisions, of which I support no matter what.  I mean, seriously.  actsecure is Dan Metcalf -- hes a legendary C programmer, probably better than every dev of every alt coin combined.

That being said, while he may be an expert in coding.  I am a financial analyst with a degree in finance & economics.  He may know how to create a coin (and probably one better than anyone else), but I know how to read markets and perform coin valuations.

This is the proof you have that actsecure is identified and that he is a expert coder?

https://twitter.com/metcalfwriter

He did not mentioned any X11coin on his twitter and that this kind of statements are just bad for the actual dev behind X11coin but who cares aslong people are making money, right?
You have the wrong Dan Metcalf. LOL! But nice try. http://www.linkedin.com/pub/dan-metcalf/12/1a8/b82
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