XBTec Announce. New ASIC manufacturer.

[RoadStress]

Deal with escrow.

Are you in Jim?

I can increase the bet to 0.5BTC if you want too.

No need for escrow.

And no I don't have that much to gamble.

Deal if you agree to 1+w/gh = you win. Less than that and I win.

tzortz this is a bad bet for you and you shouldn't take it imo. You should go for min 0.9W/GH at least since jimm can't decide which one is better. If these miners will have 0.9X W/GH you will lose the bet even if it will be very far away from the announced 0.75W/GH from the OP. For example a 0.975W/GH would be 30% higher than 0.75W/GH and you will lose the bet and customers will lose the power consumption race.

Not sure what dump selling but I don't know what you're on about performance. 0.7w/gh at the wall is not last years performance.

We already know that AM chips are capable of at least 1w/gh(see hashratio/btcgarden).

1W/GH and above is last year's performance

[Anotheranonlol]

After more thinking I'm starting to believe that the numbers are BS. They have regular AM gen 3 chips. The RockMiner R-BOX is the only live demo of AM gen3 chips and they have 1.1W/GH.  How come that there is no single proof, but lots of statements?

Well, for starters we know that Friedcat came in here and personally vouched that OP purchased AM chips.

That's what I was saying.I don't think that AM gen3 chips can't get those stats. RockMiner achieved 0.55-0.68W/GH. I don't think they can get to 0.7W/GH on the whole miner.

So their competition managed to hit 0.55-0.68W/GH and you don't see how these guys can hit 0.7W/GH?  I don't follow you.  If these guys can get 0.55W/GH at the chip level and have a total DC/DC efficiency of ~80%, that's 0.66W/GH.  

efficiency 87% fans 80w

[IamCANADIAN013]

.7 or .8 jim wins

1 or 1.1 tzortz wins

.9 break even - or both donate .1 to seans outpost

If you don't want to wager with bitbet, I can escrow for free.

I can escrow this if you want.

If Dogie says the miner works as they claim, that's good enough for me.  My only concern at that point would be that it was a one off miner and the others they make won't work at the same efficiently as the one that they sent to Dogie.

I would be more impressed if they managed to fake it or bin a single unit 35% more power efficient than normal. Its either going to be as they say, or it won't!

K, sweet. Thanks for the clarification.  I don't know a hell of a lot about these things and with all the scams I've seen, I'm leery when I see a new company make claims on their hardware.

I'm in the market to upgrade, and this one does sound intriguing.   

Never buy anything if you're the "first" customer. Do not buy anything unless the company has proven physical/visual units.

Do other customers already have units from this company? Are they happy? etc.

All questions you ask/verify before you even THINK about sending money for a miner.

Thanks for the advice.  I'm not about to send them any money without a lot of proof that the unit are as they say they are.  I was close to buying the cointerra miner, glad I didn't.  Definitely gonna keep my eye of this thread though. Hopefully they can deliver their promises.

[XBTec]

Dear users,

Thanks for interest to our topic.
Few information for you below.

Estimated date of output sample devices for test: 10 June
When test sample will output, we will send one device to Dogie for review and upload our video

Estimated date of output first batch: 17th June (very limited quantity)
Estimated date of 2nd batch: 15 July

Final prices will announce soon


During these days we have got a lot of inquiries about pricing and pre-order.
We DO NOT accept money for pre-orders, until we have no working and tested device on hands.


Sincerely, XBTec Team

[Easy2Mine]

I have an appointment with XBTec saturday 31 of june at 14:00 hour in Shenzhen China.
From various source I already have confirmation that they are legit.
I will post pictures of the meeting on Bitcointalk.
The problem with the AM Gen 3 chips is not the chip itself, but the design of the PCB board.
If you have been in China and see how they work here you will understand me.
I already have contact one of their team member, although he can speak Mandarin Chinese, I assume he is Russian from the photo of WeChat.
I hope this Russian and Chinese team can really improve the design of the PCB board and do what they claim it will do in their posts.
Tomorrow I will post a detail post of the meeting.

[Easy2Mine]

By the way, the native language of the team member I have spoken to is Russian.
His English is poor, so do not attack because English is not his native language and something is not clear.

[cderong]

looking forward to pictures and messages.

[romerun]

First time i hear Russian team working on asic rigs in china.

[asiabtc]

i am in Shenzhen city.
if your guys want, i can go to visit them for you.
who can arrange one meeting?
thanks.
Jack.

[Easy2Mine]

I meet them in Coco park, Futian district in Shenzhen.

[XBTec]

i am in Shenzhen city.
if your guys want, i can go to visit them for you.
who can arrange one meeting?
thanks.
Jack.

if you want to meet, just give me a call or text and we will arrange meeting place and time.

[MrTeal]

While I wouldn't bet on the power consumption since I don't think it's at all impossible for them to hit 0.7J/GH, I'd be more than willing to make an escrowed bet that they will not hit 20dB (2x10^-4 Pa) using standard measurement techniques (@1m). I have access to an anechoic chamber to do testing in.  Anyone interested in take that one?

[dogie]

While I wouldn't bet on the power consumption since I don't think it's at all impossible for them to hit 0.7J/GH, I'd be more than willing to make an escrowed bet that they will not hit 20dB (2x10^-4 Pa) using standard measurement techniques (@1m). I have access to an anechoic chamber to do testing in.  Anyone interested in take that one?

Do we really care though? My ambient living room is like 45dba without miners, 65 with.

[MrTeal]

While I wouldn't bet on the power consumption since I don't think it's at all impossible for them to hit 0.7J/GH, I'd be more than willing to make an escrowed bet that they will not hit 20dB (2x10^-4 Pa) using standard measurement techniques (@1m). I have access to an anechoic chamber to do testing in.  Anyone interested in take that one?

Do we really care though? My ambient living room is like 45dba without miners, 65 with.

LOL... Not really. It's just a crazy stat to post, and a great thing to bet on since I'm pretty much 100% sure I'd win. Kind of like the off-brand fans that post that they move 100CFM at 18dBa.

[Easy2Mine]

I meet them today, any special questions you guys want me to ask them?

[tzortz]

Ask them if they are on facebook.

[cderong]

pictures and any news?

[dogie]

pictures and any news?

Patience.

[Biodom]

Deal with escrow.

Are you in Jim?

I can increase the bet to 0.5BTC if you want too.

No need for escrow.

And no I don't have that much to gamble.

Deal if you agree to 1+w/gh = you win. Less than that and I win.

Although is far from your 0.7w statement, I am in for the 1w/Ghs.

Anything better you win.

Are you betting that Russian+Chinese cannot engineer a good product? Ask Bitfury Valery Nebesny and Valery Vavilov who just got $20 mil in venture funding.

[RoadStress]

Deal with escrow.

Are you in Jim?

I can increase the bet to 0.5BTC if you want too.

No need for escrow.

And no I don't have that much to gamble.

Deal if you agree to 1+w/gh = you win. Less than that and I win.

Although is far from your 0.7w statement, I am in for the 1w/Ghs.

Anything better you win.

Are you betting that Russian+Chinese cannot engineer a good product? Ask Bitfury Valery Vavilov who just got $20 mil in venture funding.

There can only be one BitFury!