XBTec Announce. New ASIC manufacturer.

[DebitMe]

who gives a hoot where they got the list? It is not relevant for anyone except bobsag3, who is a BA distributor and therefore might care.

I do,I'm also a BA customer and was told in the T&C that this would not happen!

Plus, if they are selling email addresses, who is to say that they aren't selling names, addresses, credit card numbers, date of birth, etc...

This is a real safety concern for individuals who have ordered through them.

[Biodom]

who gives a hoot where they got the list? It is not relevant for anyone except bobsag3, who is a BA distributor and therefore might care.

I'm a minersource customer and I've received no email so it must have been only BA's database. I think bobsag should be demanding BA explain how their customers information was leaked/sold/stolen.

Not stolen. Sold.

Could you please provide some proof that this is the case?  It seems BA has told Bobsag that the list was stolen and you are saying otherwise.  I am not blaming you by any means at this point (and BA's track record would suggest that it was sold and they are again lying), please know that, but any information that you can provide would be helpful to figure this out.

I second this request, can you demonstrate some papertrail, should be an easy thing to prove? Cheers.

to me it is 100 times more important that company does not bombard me with their stupid ad mail, even if I bought from it ONCE or give them my email
examples of such abuse:
rakuten-closer to the worst
ebay-the worst
microcenter
amazon
Facebook-this one is going to junk email account anyway

everyday I have to manually delete fifty or more emails in my email account(s)
If I have gotten the XBTec email, I would probably not even noticed it among the other junk and deleted it.

[hdbuck]

who gives a hoot where they got the list? It is not relevant for anyone except bobsag3, who is a BA distributor and therefore might care.

I do,I'm also a BA customer and was told in the T&C that this would not happen!

yea like if BA was trustworthy. such track records, many customers happy. 

[jimmothy]

Plus, if they are selling email addresses, who is to say that they aren't selling names, addresses, credit card numbers, date of birth, etc...

This is a real safety concern for individuals who have ordered through them.

Are you suggesting CardReaderFactory could be intentionally helping people illegally obtain personal information? Those upstanding individuals would never do something like that.

[XBTec]

Could you please provide some proof that this is the case?  It seems BA has told Bobsag that the list was stolen and you are saying otherwise.  I am not blaming you by any means at this point (and BA's track record would suggest that it was sold and they are again lying), please know that, but any information that you can provide would be helpful to figure this out.

It was a private deal and we do not want to compromise anyone. It is better to ask BA.
We protect and respect the privacy of our clients.

[dogie]

who gives a hoot where they got the list? It is not relevant for anyone except bobsag3, who is a BA distributor and therefore might care.

I'm a minersource customer and I've received no email so it must have been only BA's database. I think bobsag should be demanding BA explain how their customers information was leaked/sold/stolen.

Not stolen. Sold.

Could you please provide some proof that this is the case?  It seems BA has told Bobsag that the list was stolen and you are saying otherwise.  I am not blaming you by any means at this point (and BA's track record would suggest that it was sold and they are again lying), please know that, but any information that you can provide would be helpful to figure this out.

You can skype me an invoice, I won't reveal it to the other party but will confirm its existence.

[btmtb]

Could you please provide some proof that this is the case?  It seems BA has told Bobsag that the list was stolen and you are saying otherwise.  I am not blaming you by any means at this point (and BA's track record would suggest that it was sold and they are again lying), please know that, but any information that you can provide would be helpful to figure this out.

It was a private deal and we do not want to compromise anyone. It is better to ask BA.
We protect and respect the privacy of our clients.

Excuse my directness, but in the face of these conflicting stories, that's total bullshit. You should have some emails or paper trail that you could demonstrate this transaction with which does not involve exposing any personal information. BAS are effectively saying you're scamming us with your version of events, so educate us otherwise.

You emailed me, unsolicited, to a traceable address that you did not have consent to, so the onus is on you to demonstrate why you believed this was an acceptable course of action.

[DebitMe]

Could you please provide some proof that this is the case?  It seems BA has told Bobsag that the list was stolen and you are saying otherwise.  I am not blaming you by any means at this point (and BA's track record would suggest that it was sold and they are again lying), please know that, but any information that you can provide would be helpful to figure this out.

It was a private deal and we do not want to compromise anyone. It is better to ask BA.
We protect and respect the privacy of our clients.

BA doesn't seem to mind as they are calling it a theft and Bobsag3 is now pursuing legal action against you for theft, I would think now would be the optimal time to save face before this spirals too far out of control, and you get brought down in a legal/bad press tornado.  Also BA doesn't really care about the privacy of their clients as you claim they sell them to third parties, so it really is past protecting and respecting clients.

Personally if you are using AM chips, I don't want you to go down as I own their stock, so I am rooting for you here, but you got to give us something to work with and unfortunately saying it was private and not releasing any info doesn't help your case because BA is saying you stole them.  Now someone is lying here (I still believe it is BA), but privacy concerns are being had by everyone on that list.

I like Dogie's approach about showing him and having a trusted third party verify the information, but you should also have Bobsag3 review this as well. (actually you do owe it to people whose address is on that list as they were illegally sold to you, so providing information is really a must here).  If the payment was also made in bitcoin, you should show the transaction on the blockchain as well, if it was a bank transfer then screenshots please.  There should also be email records and anything else incriminating against BA for illegally selling people's records to you/others.

Like I said, I am on your side, but you will have to show some proof of your claims and hiding behind the facet of protecting your clients won't help you unfortunately.

[blackarrow]

2. We have bought the email base from Black arrow. If you do not want to receive information from us, just click on the unsubscribe button in the bottom of the email and we will not disturb you.

If you have our customer database it is stolen. We will now announce the police to get to the bottom of this.

[ducmami]

2. We have bought the email base from Black arrow. If you do not want to receive information from us, just click on the unsubscribe button in the bottom of the email and we will not disturb you.

If you have our customer database it is stolen. We will now announce the police to get to the bottom of this.

pick up your phone and call 911

[hdbuck]

2. We have bought the email base from Black arrow. If you do not want to receive information from us, just click on the unsubscribe button in the bottom of the email and we will not disturb you.

If you have our customer database it is stolen. We will now announce the police to get to the bottom of this.

pick up your phone and call 911

[bit_wizard]

2. We have bought the email base from Black arrow. If you do not want to receive information from us, just click on the unsubscribe button in the bottom of the email and we will not disturb you.

If you have our customer database it is stolen. We will now announce the police to get to the bottom of this.

pick up your phone and call 911

  This sh!t is F*CKING HILARIOUS!

[juni0r]

I would like to know whether BA will get police to involve in this whole fisaco. If this is a case, the whole shitty mess will unfold i.e. delay in refund / scam accusaction /etc .
This whole mess is getting better and better   

[btcminer84]

2. We have bought the email base from Black arrow. If you do not want to receive information from us, just click on the unsubscribe button in the bottom of the email and we will not disturb you.

If you have our customer database it is stolen. We will now announce the police to get to the bottom of this.

You should start shipping and GO F*CK YOURSELF! Scammer!

[BitCoin Operated Boy]

Hahahahahahaha hilarious

[BitCoin Operated Boy]

Goodluck sorting it out ,but could one of you please GIVE ME MY DAMN ORDER its been over half a year now.

Could you please stop trolling in this thread, go to a Black Arrow thread and there demand whatever you feel you deserve. I'm genuinely interested in what XBTec has to offer, but I'm getting bored reading Black Arrow nonsense here instead of some useful info.

XBTec is Black Arrow lol they stole/sold this information to/from themselves :-)
They are the same people :-)

[tzortz]

Dogie, did you get the sample miner?

Jimmothy, I still believe you have lost here.

[eXOBeX]

2. We have bought the email base from Black arrow. If you do not want to receive information from us, just click on the unsubscribe button in the bottom of the email and we will not disturb you.

If you have our customer database it is stolen. We will now announce the police to get to the bottom of this.

Yeah, it's about time the cops paid you a visit, you scamming twats. Where's my fucking miner?

Hello,

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Please contact us if you have any other specific questions or comments that we can assist you with and have a wonderful day.

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Chanel

Remember folks, there's an abuse report web address in the email header, the more people fill it in the more likely it is that MailChimp cancel XBTec's bulk mail account.

[ducmami]

2. We have bought the email base from Black arrow. If you do not want to receive information from us, just click on the unsubscribe button in the bottom of the email and we will not disturb you.

If you have our customer database it is stolen. We will now announce the police to get to the bottom of this.

Yeah, it's about time the cops paid you a visit, you scamming twats. Where's my fucking miner?

Hello,

Thank you for reporting this to MailChimp! We take spam complaints quite seriously here, and if one of our customers are sending you unsolicited emails, we definitely want to know. Based on the information provided below, we have located and currently investigating the account in question.

Please contact us if you have any other specific questions or comments that we can assist you with and have a wonderful day.

Thank you,
Chanel

I've just report mailchimp too

[itod]

Just got this in a mailbox:
http://us3.campaign-archive2.com/?u=0f198a1ddde352901c5deb2f7&id=c884dabbb1&e=19e6f4fbfe

Since they claim "In stock", has anyone received this miner yet?  2.4 BTC is an excellent price for 1.57 TH/s, but I'm reluctant to buy until someone confirms he actually received the unit.

Edit: Just seen "Shipping date is August 31th.", bummer. Yet another presale.

Edit 2: This is claimed "In stock": http://www.xbtec.io/products/pacific-1250-1-25-thashsecond Anyone recived that?